Bondi Beach Sydney incident (2 Viewers)

ajsccfc · Sunday at 4:32 PM

Chap that stopped the one shooter had absolutely no combat experience or pedigree and he took two bullets from the other shooter in the process.

To do that in the heat of the moment with your only regard being the safety of others is unbelievable, something to be celebrated amongst all the misery. What a man.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Sunday at 5:19 PM

ajsccfc said:
Chap that stopped the one shooter had absolutely no combat experience or pedigree and he took two bullets from the other shooter in the process.

To do that in the heat of the moment with your only regard being the safety of others is unbelievable, something to be celebrated amongst all the misery. What a man.

Look how easily he disarmed the guy. The shooter also looked to have next to no combat experience and failed to wrestle his gun from a very overweight middle aged man. It was frankly pathetic. A very cowardly attack from someone who would lose 99% of bar fights.

Again though, whilst that story is inspiring, we are hiding away from talking about the motives, and the problems with Islam. The usual suspects are also missing from this thread, which just about says it all.

Let's not kid ourselves, this is a very serious incident. I suspect this will rock Australia for some time to come.

eastwoodsdustman · Sunday at 5:25 PM

I see the German police have foiled a planned attack on a Christmas market. 5 arrested and I was Surprised to see that it wasn’t disgruntled residents not happy about the parking.

SBT · Sunday at 5:28 PM

Even more surprised the guy who intervened didn’t get shot by police after grabbing the gun now that we know he’s a Muslim!

Adge · Sunday at 5:38 PM

ajsccfc said:
Chap that stopped the one shooter had absolutely no combat experience or pedigree and he took two bullets from the other shooter in the process.

To do that in the heat of the moment with your only regard being the safety of others is unbelievable, something to be celebrated amongst all the misery. What a man.

Yep-a real life hero, should never have to put his hand in his pocket throughout Australia ever again.

duffer · Sunday at 5:39 PM

rob9872 said:
Ffs state of this!!

Muslims shoot Jews on the other side of the world and you shoehorn in Nigel, Tommy and Rupert.

Weird. Really weird.

I'd have far more sympathy with arguments I dont even believe in over here if once, just once, people like you could accept that there is a real and genuine threat from the Muslim religion. And its more than a few extremists. This will get much worse. Pretending it doesnt exist or burying your heads will never solve it.

There's no genuine threat from an entire religion mate, that's a ridiculous thing to say. It's like blaming every Jew in the world for the atrocities in Gaza. It's a stupid and offensive comment in both cases and just leads the thickos on all sides into acts of hate, driven primarily by fear and prejudice.

And of course it's a few extremists, there are a billion and a half Muslims. Do you seriously, genuinely think they're all out to get you?

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Sunday at 5:58 PM

duffer said:
There's no genuine threat from an entire religion mate, that's a ridiculous thing to say. It's like blaming every Jew in the world for the atrocities in Gaza. It's a stupid and offensive comment in both cases and just leads the thickos on all sides into acts of hate, driven primarily by fear and prejudice.

And of course it's a few extremists, there are a billion and a half Muslims. Do you seriously, genuinely think they're all out to get you?

Just pointless air really.

If that has been a white supremacist you wouldn't be running rings to try and play it down.

Try telling all of this to the families that won't be seeing their loved ones coming home tonight. There's obviously a massive problem with Islamic extremists, and trying to sweep it under the carpet doesn't help anyone.

rob9872 · Sunday at 6:04 PM

Won't let me reply @duffer but no, of course I dont think its all Muslims, that's crazy. I've said on here before my wife has brought up a young Muslim family in her job as a nanny, lovely family no issues, but those children are now 3rd generation, it's different. I work and have worked with many Muslims, again no issues at all.

It's similarly crazy to believe its only a few extremists or that the religion itself isnt an issue. Too many examples over a generation now to be isolated.

It needs addressing and more than anything, it needs the more moderate Muslims to call out their own. These attacks are rarely lone wolves, they're often planned attacks, others will be aware before they happen and if they genuinely dont want these attacks to happen in the name of their religion, then they're better placed to prevent it than anyone, yet it continues almost a weekly occurrence. Until we hear a message or see action from their own communities about how abhorrent rather than in many cases revelling in a 'victory' it will continue.

Unrelated, but locally as an example, look at the rape reported last week only 2 miles from home in Leamington where the perpetrator said 'this makes me a Muslim'. It's most extreme versions are being taught and imported. We know the Bible has issues with bits of that too, but we're not teaching our kids to follow that path.

It has to stop.

Saddlebrains · Sunday at 6:21 PM

Wouldnt worry, we will just light some candles and world leaders can say theyre shocked and appalled, that will sort it

Ian1779 · Sunday at 6:39 PM

Saddlebrains said:
Wouldnt worry, we will just light some candles and world leaders can say theyre shocked and appalled, that will sort it

What do you expect them to do exactly?

Australia to their credit responded to the Port Arthur attack by introducing a sweeping change in their gun laws.
The US have done nothing to try and curb the gun atrocities that happen there constantly as a counter example.

You cannot account for subhuman people like this in a free, liberal and democratic country.

I get the idea of performative gestures meaning very little. But from a legislative perspective what do you want changing?

Macca · Sunday at 6:54 PM

Sometimes you have to wonder whether we are really living in the second quarter of the 21st century

Sky Blue Pete · Sunday at 6:57 PM

Macca said:
Sometimes you have to wonder whether we are really living in the second quarter of the 21st century

Yep we never learn

Grendel · Sunday at 7:25 PM

duffer said:
There's no genuine threat from an entire religion mate, that's a ridiculous thing to say. It's like blaming every Jew in the world for the atrocities in Gaza. It's a stupid and offensive comment in both cases and just leads the thickos on all sides into acts of hate, driven primarily by fear and prejudice.

And of course it's a few extremists, there are a billion and a half Muslims. Do you seriously, genuinely think they're all out to get you?

You really are just a wanker aren’t you?

Ccfcisparks · Sunday at 7:33 PM

Grendel said:
You really are just a wanker aren’t you?

Grendel · Sunday at 7:45 PM

Ccfcisparks said:

You even this this subject is something to laugh about

SIR ERNIE · Sunday at 7:46 PM

useful idiots are getting their wish

Ccfcisparks · Sunday at 8:02 PM

Grendel said:
You even this this subject is something to laugh about

Had a few mate?

Grendel · Sunday at 8:10 PM

Ccfcisparks said:
Had a few mate?

Nope. Do you think if the families of the victims saw you cracking jokes on here they’d thinks it’s acceptable?

It’s a defined terrorist attack - old Duffer seemed to think laughing emojis were inappropriate on another thread. Why are they on here?

fatso · Sunday at 8:13 PM

duffer said:
There's no genuine threat from an entire religion mate, that's a ridiculous thing to say. It's like blaming every Jew in the world for the atrocities in Gaza. It's a stupid and offensive comment in both cases and just leads the thickos on all sides into acts of hate, driven primarily by fear and prejudice.

And of course it's a few extremists, there are a billion and a half Muslims. Do you seriously, genuinely think they're all out to get you?

While the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, law abiding citizens, you cant just ignore the fact that the world's most feared terrorist organisations are all Muslim, or that Islamic fundamental ideology doesn't motivate some Muslims to commit atrocities.
Here's just a short segment from a very long list as an example

List Of 10 Infamous UN Designated Terrorist Organisations In The World: Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban And More

Amid India-Pakistan’s rising tension due to terrorism, let’s know about the 10 infamous terrorist organizations designated by the UN, known for their drastic terror attacks, Bombing, Kidnapping, Killing and more. Also, Know who the founders are.

www.thedailyjagran.com

Grendel · Sunday at 8:18 PM

Anyway I’m out of this shit fest

rob9872 · Sunday at 8:30 PM

Reports now that the guy who disarmed the terrorist was actually a Christian named Edward Crabtree. Are we still allowed to call him a hero whilst the news scrambles around for another angle and a different good guy?

Thoughts @Ccfcisparks ?

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Sunday at 8:40 PM

Islamist terrorist attacks in the world 1979-2024 - Fondapol

• 1979-2000: 2,194 attacks and 6,817 deaths.

www.fondapol.org

People can read and form their own opinions, the headlining statistics are islamic attacks killed 6,800 between 1979-2000 and and 205,000 between 2013-2024 so to suggest it's just a few extremists is not right when the issue is getting exponentially worse and the few extremists are becoming more and more over time.

Sky Blue Pete · Sunday at 8:42 PM

fatso said:
While the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, law abiding citizens, you cant just ignore the fact that the world's most feared terrorist organisations are all Muslim, or that Islamic fundamental ideology doesn't motivate some Muslims to commit atrocities.
Here's just a short segment from a very long list as an example

List Of 10 Infamous UN Designated Terrorist Organisations In The World: Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban And More

Amid India-Pakistan’s rising tension due to terrorism, let’s know about the 10 infamous terrorist organizations designated by the UN, known for their drastic terror attacks, Bombing, Kidnapping, Killing and more. Also, Know who the founders are.

www.thedailyjagran.com

No there is no denying that but to blame all Muslims is where it goes wrong
The two or three blokes are wankers first and foremost

Sky Blue Pete · Sunday at 8:42 PM

SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Islamist terrorist attacks in the world 1979-2024 - Fondapol

• 1979-2000: 2,194 attacks and 6,817 deaths.

www.fondapol.org

People can read and form their own opinions, the headlining statistics are islamic attacks killed 6,800 between 1979-2000 and and 205,000 between 2013-2024 so to suggest it's just a few extremists is not right when the issue is getting exponentially worse and the few extremists are becoming more and more over time.

Most of those killed were other Muslims suspect

Sky Blue Pete · Sunday at 8:43 PM

rob9872 said:
Reports now that the guy who disarmed the terrorist was actually a Christian named Edward Crabtree. Are we still allowed to call him a hero whilst the news scrambles around for another angle and a different good guy?

Thoughts @Ccfcisparks ?

Absolutely we are
In the video it looks like he gets shot holding the gun doesn’t he?
Incredible bravery

Ccfcisparks · Sunday at 8:47 PM

rob9872 said:
Reports now that the guy who disarmed the terrorist was actually a Christian named Edward Crabtree. Are we still allowed to call him a hero whilst the news scrambles around for another angle and a different good guy?

Thoughts @Ccfcisparks ?

Couldn't give a fk if he was Muslim Christian or no religion, hes a hero. That doesn't detract from saying there is a huge problem with the religion, without saying all Muslims.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Sunday at 8:50 PM

Sky Blue Pete said:
Most of those killed were other Muslims suspect

Yea, majority in muslim countries but clearly gone past the argument of a few extremists.

What happens after islamic terror has slaughtered all the Muslims who oppose them?

I don't know the solution but it's clearly a problem.

Sky Blue Pete · Sunday at 8:54 PM

SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Yea, majority in muslim countries but clearly gone past the argument of a few extremists.

What happens after islamic terror has slaughtered all the Muslims who oppose them?

I don't know the solution but it's clearly a problem.

There’s many of them

Tommo1993 · Sunday at 8:55 PM

From the snippets of footage, the younger guy looks experienced with the gun. The older guy who was disarmed looks new to it all.

PVA · Sunday at 8:58 PM

SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Islamist terrorist attacks in the world 1979-2024 - Fondapol

• 1979-2000: 2,194 attacks and 6,817 deaths.

www.fondapol.org

People can read and form their own opinions, the headlining statistics are islamic attacks killed 6,800 between 1979-2000 and and 205,000 between 2013-2024 so to suggest it's just a few extremists is not right when the issue is getting exponentially worse and the few extremists are becoming more and more over time.

The vast majority of those are in Muslim countries as part of various civil wars. And most of them looked to have peaked and are on the decrease, thankfully.

475 deaths in Europe between 2013 and 2024. Thought it would be a bit higher, that's actually quite low (but obviously it's still 475 too many).

PVA · Sunday at 8:58 PM

Tommo1993 said:
From the snippets of footage, the younger guy looks experienced with the gun. The older guy who was disarmed looks new to it all.

Father and son apparently

rob9872 · Sunday at 8:59 PM

PVA said:
Father and son apparently

Find a girl, settle down ...

fatso · Sunday at 9:04 PM

Sky Blue Pete said:
No there is no denying that but to blame all Muslims is where it goes wrong
The two or three blokes are wankers first and foremost

I dont think anyone is blaming all Muslims Pete, but there's no doubt that Islam has caused us massive problems here in the west, and will no doubt continue to do so.

Sky Blue Pete · Sunday at 9:04 PM

fatso said:
I dont think anyone is blaming all Muslims Pete, but there's no doubt that Islam has caused us massive problems here in the west, and will no doubt continue to do so.

Can you explain it to me like I’m 16
Is it what Christians did with the empire? And we’ve moved on

Evo1883 · Sunday at 9:09 PM

Ccfcisparks said:
Couldn't give a fk if he was Muslim Christian or no religion, hes a hero. That doesn't detract from saying there is a huge problem with the religion, without saying all Muslims.

Islam has a problem with extremism .. end of story

The truth is the truth

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