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no_loyalty

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2022
  • #351
Nick said:
"put them out today as they won't be emptied for months"

Yeah, didn't get emptied anyway and haven't been since before Christmas. Nice one.
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I have just phoned the council to complain about our green bin not being collected on Tuesday, they told me that the bins in our area are next Tuesday and then in April if the dispute isn’t resolved.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 21, 2022
  • #352
no_loyalty said:
I have just phoned the council to complain about our green bin not being collected on Tuesday, they told me that the bins in our area are next Tuesday and then in April if the dispute isn’t resolved.
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MIne is just staying out now until it's empty.
 
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Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Jan 21, 2022
  • #353
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The unions want to, not necessarily those in it. I don’t think that being paid the same as our Scottish counterparts is an unreasonable request, about a 7% rise. The unions want 16% over 2 years which personally I don’t really agree with although it’s in the context of a 17% real terms cut.

Wages staying behind inflation indefinitely is surely something you see as a problem?
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I don’t know what you do so apologies but why should the salaries be matched to Scottish people, what’s the argument around that. Pick Singapore if you want major increases or the Philippines for 20% of what the current pay is.
I don’t get the context of matching another location. I get matching wages to a role but location should be relative to the economy that is in and the supply/demand of labour in that region
 

Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2022
  • #354
no_loyalty said:
I have just phoned the council to complain about our green bin not being collected on Tuesday, they told me that the bins in our area are next Tuesday and then in April if the dispute isn’t resolved.
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By April oh ffs, my street going be a fucking shit tip if is not already.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2022
  • #355
Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
I don’t know what you do so apologies but why should the salaries be matched to Scottish people, what’s the argument around that. Pick Singapore if you want major increases or the Philippines for 20% of what the current pay is.
I don’t get the context of matching another location. I get matching wages to a role but location should be relative to the economy that is in and the supply/demand of labour in that region
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Teacher
 

Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Jan 21, 2022
  • #356
Grendel said:
My wages at JLR were behind inflation. It wasn't a problem no. Its reality as oddly companies margins are squeezed as they also pay more on production materials and utilities and fuel
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Maybe they were behind inflation as you had access to massively subsidised company car scheme and therefore were not impacted as much by a general all RPI index linked inflation figure impacting others.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2022
  • #357
Might have to have a fire in the back garden tonight for the paper waste. Cant be bothered driving to the wagons so just dump the household stuff in the bins at work.
 

Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Jan 21, 2022
  • #358
no_loyalty said:
I have just phoned the council to complain about our green bin not being collected on Tuesday, they told me that the bins in our area are next Tuesday and then in April if the dispute isn’t resolved.
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Could be a great time for a compost heap or bin and the benefits that brings
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jan 21, 2022
  • #359
Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
Could be a great time for a compost heap or bin and the benefits that brings
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Green bins are general waste in Coventry... less good scattered around your garden.
 
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LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2022
  • #360
I thought the council made money from recycling? At the disposal points all bags just go in the same bin so no split from recycling and normal waste.
 

Kneeza

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2022
  • #361
I went round the house yesterday to shut the water off just in case we get a very cold snap (it's empty and waiting for completion on a sale).
I was slightly surprised to see the bin on the pavement, and full of rubbish. Some bugger had obviously dragged it out of the garden and filled it
I couldn't care less about that tbh, but when I got inside there was a letter threatening all sorts of shit if I didn't pay the council tax immediately!
I don't live in the city, use absolutely no services, and don't even get a discount (they only discount if it's a single occupier. Empty accrues full payment. That's logical, eh?).
Turpin wore a mask.
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 22, 2022
  • #362
Kneeza said:
I went round the house yesterday to shut the water off just in case we get a very cold snap (it's empty and waiting for completion on a sale).
I was slightly surprised to see the bin on the pavement, and full of rubbish. Some bugger had obviously dragged it out of the garden and filled it
I couldn't care less about that tbh, but when I got inside there was a letter threatening all sorts of shit if I didn't pay the council tax immediately!
I don't live in the city, use absolutely no services, and don't even get a discount (they only discount if it's a single occupier. Empty accrues full payment. That's logical, eh?).
Turpin wore a mask.
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Action on 3,000 homes sat empty in Coventry

A new empty homes strategy is to be approved
www.coventrytelegraph.net

"... Existing policies include an Empty Homes Premium which charges double council tax on homes left empty for two years, 200 per cent for those empty for more than five years, and 300 per cent for those empty for more than 10 years. Last year alone it raised more than £603,000 from 393 properties...."

I think there is a 6-month grace period if selling a property and leaving it empty but not 100% sure.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 22, 2022
  • #363
rob9872 said:
I'm happy with what I get for the job I do and I get rewarded when it's due. It can be annoying when someone new has the red carpet rolled out for them, but when I reflect I'd rather have my security, knowledge base, job satisfaction and respect that has been earned and trusted over a period of longevity.
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Meanwhile the snake-oil salespeople that keep on moving on are having a great time spending the money they haven't earned.

Don't get me wrong, I've got a lot of time and admiration for those who work for the love of a job and want to earn what they have. If only more people had that outlook on life.

The thing that is confusing me is that the rest of what you've said seems to be against people like that, and lauding those that are inherently greedy and selfish.
 
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Kneeza

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 22, 2022
  • #364
Philosorapter said:

Action on 3,000 homes sat empty in Coventry

A new empty homes strategy is to be approved
www.coventrytelegraph.net

"... Existing policies include an Empty Homes Premium which charges double council tax on homes left empty for two years, 200 per cent for those empty for more than five years, and 300 per cent for those empty for more than 10 years. Last year alone it raised more than £603,000 from 393 properties...."

I think there is a 6-month grace period if selling a property and leaving it empty but not 100% sure.
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I've no idea what the 'grace' period is, and I have no issues with flushing out those that deliberately leave properties empty.
However, I do have a beef at being charged full price for zero services while I wait for the house to sell.
Before my mum left the house to, necessarily, move near to us and into sheltered accomodation, she paid three quarters what I do, and benefited from all the services one expects.
I now get none! Ah well, hopefully we exchange next month and I can wash my hands of it all
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 22, 2022
  • #365
Kneeza said:
I've no idea what the 'grace' period is, and I have no issues with flushing out those that deliberately leave properties empty.
However, I do have a beef at being charged full price for zero services while I wait for the house to sell.
Before my mum left the house to, necessarily, move near to us and into sheltered accomodation, she paid three quarters what I do, and benefited from all the services one expects.
I now get none! Ah well, hopefully we exchange next month and I can wash my hands of it all
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The exempt list for council tax is on this page. Council Tax and unoccupied properties | Council Tax and unoccupied properties | Coventry City Council

Wish you the best in your endeavours.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 22, 2022
  • #366
rob9872 said:
I perhaps should have numbered them or inserted into the quoted text so they made more sense, but they were unrelated points, isolated what you say reads correct. I was responding to a few different issues mentioned on the SB Dreamer post.

My point about others earning loads and doing less, refers to sales guys (often but not always) who arrive new on big salaries promising the world, who then don't live up to expectations or able to deliver what they promised. Those have moved on to other pastures. Conversely I'm still here and whilst I may not earn those megabucks, I'm happy with what I get for the job I do and I get rewarded when it's due. It can be annoying when someone new has the red carpet rolled out for them, but when I reflect I'd rather have my security, knowledge base, job satisfaction and respect that has been earned and trusted over a period of longevity.
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Can I pay my gas bill in respect?
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 22, 2022
  • #367
Kneeza said:
I've no idea what the 'grace' period is, and I have no issues with flushing out those that deliberately leave properties empty.
However, I do have a beef at being charged full price for zero services while I wait for the house to sell.
Before my mum left the house to, necessarily, move near to us and into sheltered accomodation, she paid three quarters what I do, and benefited from all the services one expects.
I now get none! Ah well, hopefully we exchange next month and I can wash my hands of it all
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Just them you're single occupant, they don't check.
 

Kneeza

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 22, 2022
  • #368
Marty said:
Just them you're single occupant, they don't check.
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Thought about it. I'm not that devious/brave
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2022
  • #369
A bit off-topic but I've been paying full water rates for years despite being a single-occupant entitled to a 25% discount. The reason is that for a long time the the bill was in the name of a former occupant (even though I was always the one who paid it) and it took me a very long time and the production of many legal documents to convince Severn-Trent otherwise. Right now I'm in the process of moving house which makes things even more complicated. I wouldn't have had these problems if water was still administered by the local authority as they already have these details on file.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2022
  • #370
Just in a union meeting with a guest rep from the bin strikers. Speaking full of sense, tremendous efforts being undertaken to get people paid properly. Really decent bloke.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #371

Agency worker recruitment by Coventry council exposed in bin dispute

www.unitetheunion.org
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #372
Evo1883 said:

Agency worker recruitment by Coventry council exposed in bin dispute

www.unitetheunion.org
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Your rep said on Monday they’re ‘Labour acting like Tories’. Pretty much confirms it
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #373
Isn't it normal that agency workers get paid a bit more?

I know in IT it's usually the case with contractors / agencies.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #374
Nick said:
Isn't it normal that agency workers get paid a bit more?
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It shows the money is there to pay people properly in the first place.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #375
The workers are being recruited to work for Tom White Waste Ltd which is a separate waste company and not part of the current dispute. Tom White waste is entirely owned by Coventry council.
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What's that all about? The council own a commercial waste company but its not the company that empties the bins. Guess the next suggestion will be privatising the service and guess who will get the contract.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #376
chiefdave said:
What's that all about? The council own a commercial waste company but its not the company that empties the bins. Guess the next suggestion will be privatising the service and guess who will get the contract.
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Yeah they bought Tom White a couple of years ago for a fair old whack.

I thought they did some of the recycling stuff? Wouldn't know, never had my recycling bin taken.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #377
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It shows the money is there to pay people properly in the first place.
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Contractors get no holiday pay, sick pay or attract employee NI I would assume?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #378
Grendel said:
Contractors get no holiday pay, sick pay or attract employee NI I would assume?
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Same with pension payments?

Plus it's only temporary. That's why they tend to get a couple of quid more per hour.

They need to do something sharpish, the city will be even more of a shithole if nobody starts collecting the bins that are left by the road.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #379
Nick said:
Same with pension payments?

Plus it's only temporary. That's why they tend to get a couple of quid more per hour.

They need to do something sharpish, the city will be even more of a shithole if nobody starts collecting the bins that are left by the road.
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Yes pensions as well and no rights to redundancy or notice terms - bit silly to compare the two really
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #380
chiefdave said:
What's that all about? The council own a commercial waste company but its not the company that empties the bins. Guess the next suggestion will be privatising the service and guess who will get the contract.
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Cov Council have owned Tom White for ages , coventry Council director is also the director of Tom White and Coombe Abbey Hotel .. why hasn't he combined Tom White into cov Council... the answer is simple bonuses
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #381
Just hope they turn up today, the last day they're set to. Can't even get Evo on the case to make sure they do!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #382
My last day was apparently last week, did they fuck turn up.

It's been since before Christmas.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #383
Grendel said:
Contractors get no holiday pay, sick pay or attract employee NI I would assume?
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What’s that got to do with the cost to the council?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #384
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What’s that got to do with the cost to the council?
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Because the council will be paying that for employees on a permanent basis.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #385
Nick said:
Because the council will be paying that for employees on a permanent basis.
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They aren’t paying their binmen that?
 
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