mark82
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Just find the constant slagging off of our players all a bit unnecessary. Are there any players that haven't taken it recently?
What’s that mean Mark - care to explain.
For what it's worth, Ben Wilson ranks number 8 for average goals conceded per 90 minutes in the Championship (1 goal per 90, 18 starts). Marosi ranks 29 out of 30 (1.75 goals per 90, 16 games). I'm really not sure this is the big issue people are making it out to be. Scoring goals consistently has been the bigger problem recently.
Stats also show RCC to be better than Bill Glazier
A very sensible post!I honestly do not think there is much between both of our goalkeepers currently - make of that what you will.
Marosi would have "messed up" if you viewed it that way just as badly as Wilson undoubtedly for the first goal.
Personally I thought it was a very very good delivery that does put defences/goalies in two minds.
I think Wilson has done well and had earned his stint as our number one this season - however that being said it was not his best game by a long way yesterday - he was not alone - and I think would bring Marosi back for Derby and hope he makes a better fist of making the number one shirt his own than his last performance which I feel was far worse than Wilson's - the punch for the Cardiff goal.....well if Wilson had done that.....#justsaying!
Camp!!!
Ask our good pals from Sunderland about Camp.
They're not at all impressed with Burge but most are of the opinion that he's miles better than Camp.
Camp was brought in as emergency cover only , as soon as Marosi was back we let him go
Marosi stays on his line then puts himself in a position to make the save. Wilson neither deals with the ball or attempts to make the save. Marosi is twice the keeper Wilson will ever be.Wilson seems to have a particular issue on those deep, outswinging free kicks from wide areas
Can think of 2 examples (Sheff Wed away and last night) where he’s started to come, stopped, retreated to his line and they’ve scored.
Decision making has been pretty poor from set pieces generally, I doubt Marosi would have done much better as we’ve all seen what he’s like on balls into the box, Cardiff game as the most recent example
Think most agree we’ll need to be looking at an upgrade next season if the budget allows
Stats distorted by the early part of the season when we didn't know the league and shipped too many in. Imo MM is the better but we still need an upgrade next season on both. Either way I think he was brought back too soon, but chopping and changing each time will do the confidence of neither anybgood or of the defenders playing in front of them. If Marko does come in, then at this stage I think he should be told the shitt is his until the end of the season no matter what.
Think Grendel with that comment is saying in a roundabout way he prefers Biamou to Walker as the stats are misleading.....
I honestly do not think there is much between both of our goalkeepers currently - make of that what you will.
Marosi would have "messed up" if you viewed it that way just as badly as Wilson undoubtedly for the first goal.
Personally I thought it was a very very good delivery that does put defences/goalies in two minds.
I think Wilson has done well and had earned his stint as our number one this season - however that being said it was not his best game by a long way yesterday - he was not alone - and I think would bring Marosi back for Derby and hope he makes a better fist of making the number one shirt his own than his last performance which I feel was far worse than Wilson's - the punch for the Cardiff goal.....well if Wilson had done that.....#justsaying!
Still, defensively we clearly aren't doing too badly. Bigger issues have been the other end of the pitch.
I addressed that point in my e-mail Jimmy Hills Beard if you read it properly you will see that I said I would bring Marosi back for Derby but he would need to improve drastically on his Cardiff performance and wrestle the no1 shirt back from Wilson.
Besides that was not the main point - the main point initially of the thread was many wrote Wilson off before he even played a league game properly and think most admit that they undervalued him and his performance exceeded their expectations - the lad has done reasonably well.
The second point was Grendel had gone in two footed after having to wait a few weeks to crucify him for an arguable error of judgement from a very good delivery in the Boro game labelling him the worst ever goalkeeper to play for Coventry City......Mark82 then presented stats to demonstrate that statistically Wilson has been best goalie this season....Grendel then tried to say stats are misleading which in a way leads me to believe he thinks in reality Max better than Walker as stats can be misleading......when it suits.....
Great support of one our players as usual is there any player in ure opinion worthy of wearing the city shirt ?Why on earth is Robins persisting with Wilson
He is down there with the early championship years of Dubec Hykdegard and Shearer and even worse than Burge
He’s actually other than Avromovic the worst keeper I’ve seen at the club. He’s got zero positional sense and looks like an outfield player put in goal
If robins persists with this idiot we are down - surely he’s finished after the debacle yesterday
So these objective stats aren't relevant but 'Grendel stats' on Biamou (let's exclude play offs and cup matches) do.Stats also show RCC to be better than Bill Glazier
I assume he answer to your first line is Marosi is not fully fit.Why on earth is Robins persisting with Wilson
He is down there with the early championship years of Dubec Hykdegard and Shearer and even worse than Burge
He’s actually other than Avromovic the worst keeper I’ve seen at the club. He’s got zero positional sense and looks like an outfield player put in goal
If robins persists with this idiot we are down - surely he’s finished after the debacle yesterday
Fatso I think that's probably fair in my book!
Though I do hope that one of them probably Marosi could improve to be good enough for this level.
Yes but Wilson has had on average 2 shots per game. The stat differential is entirely down to us tightening upSave % - Wilson 12th, Marosi 27th
Clean sheet % - Wilson 11th, Marosi 23rd
Marosi is the better keeper but he looked very dodgy when returning from injury.
Don't know if it was psychological or if it was even something as simple as the mask distracting him, but he didn't look right.
Both are rubbish on crosses though, it's by far Marosi's biggest weakness.
Seems like a lot of people have completely written him off based on 1 bad appearance when he was still injured.Was just too soon and he was played out of necessity.
Our entire style of play last season was built on a solid defence that gave away few chances so the few goals we scored counted.
We’ve now got a defence good for 1/2 gimme goals a game.
Bonkers how stats can be used when it's suits, but misleading when it doesn't.
Yes but Wilson has had on average 2 shots per game. The stat differential is entirely down to us tightening up
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