He's our top goal scorer this season.
He's our top assist taker this season.
He's played less minutes than many other players.
He would only not be great player if we don't have any great players. I believe he's a great player for us.
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He's our top goal scorer this season.
He's our top assist taker this season.
He's played less minutes than many other players.
He would only not be great player if we don't have any great players. I believe he's a great player for us.
slowpoke
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We need a better left back and possibly CB I like both Thomas & Kitching but with McFadz gone we need another and atleast two strikers, to be honest I don’t see Wright or Simms being first choices next season.
Robins is signing players who he believes can step up and deliver in the PL, so it’s going to be a summer of rumour and speculation again.
Also another keeper maybe even two, Moore will be gone as could Wilson, you need three.
Marty
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Wright looks good in flashes, but not near the quality or consistency you'd expect for nearly 9 mill. If the club thinks they can sell him, even for a loss to free up money for someone who can push us onto the next level then we should go for it.
Simms has all the attributes, but I can't see him ever scoring goals for us.
We need to get rid of JDS, poor defensively, short, so always done by high balls to the back post, and long balls over his head.
Allen, Moore, Kelly will all go for nothing.
I would like to bring in a first choice right sided CB, Kitching looks very good on the left, but Thomas is an average championship defender, has plenty of mistakes in him. We need 2 CB's anyway.
I'd bring in:
2xCB
1xLB
1xCM
1xWinger
2xStrikers
Simms has all the attributes, but I can't see him ever scoring goals for us.
We need to get rid of JDS, poor defensively, short, so always done by high balls to the back post, and long balls over his head.
Allen, Moore, Kelly will all go for nothing.
I would like to bring in a first choice right sided CB, Kitching looks very good on the left, but Thomas is an average championship defender, has plenty of mistakes in him. We need 2 CB's anyway.
I'd bring in:
2xCB
1xLB
1xCM
1xWinger
2xStrikers
Boicey
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Generally, looking back I think it was quite a mixed recruitment last summer. And we are going to have to live with some of those long contracts for another season or two.
Jds and Simms will probably be here for another season as squad players, then go at a loss.
Wright is a bit of enigma who I suspect frustrates Robins quite a lot. He’ll get enough time to show if he’s up to it in terms of all round contribution. EMC will be an interesting contrast.
We’ll need an AM, O’Hare replacement.
Not sure MR is that keen on Bidwell.
Cant see that many signings this summer and Doug won’t be flashing his cash.
Jds and Simms will probably be here for another season as squad players, then go at a loss.
Wright is a bit of enigma who I suspect frustrates Robins quite a lot. He’ll get enough time to show if he’s up to it in terms of all round contribution. EMC will be an interesting contrast.
We’ll need an AM, O’Hare replacement.
Not sure MR is that keen on Bidwell.
Cant see that many signings this summer and Doug won’t be flashing his cash.
Boicey
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Delusional.
Those are well known stats actually. They publish them in various official outlets, and the EFL keeps a record of them.
slowpoke
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Well Doug has over 20 million cash in his war chest now plus more if Gyorkeres moves on top players ain’t cheap but a good recruitment team which we have can hopefully find anothe Sakamoto or Torp.
Without making it seem like I'm attacking you, this is the problem with posters like yourself. You don't appear to understand how the club works or the overall approach. Wright was our all time record, and a marquee signing. He's going to be an integral part of the team whether you like it or not, and he will be lining up as first choice on the team sheet when fit.
Simms I agree with others, that he's not shown near enough or been the player he was supposed to be. But he simply won't be cast aside. Robins and the coaching team will do everything they can over the next 2 seasons to get what they need out of him, we're not a club who can afford to to spend and then just write players off. The fact we have some money at the moment, is a freak 1 in 1000 occurrence from owning 2 players who sold for wild sums.
What attributes has Simms got? You say he has the lot but tell me what does he have that Wright doesn't in much greater amounts?
Wright is faster, more skillful, scores more goals, makes more assists and more regularly gets into dangerous positions. Wright also appears to be a much better team player, as he has adapted to a different position.
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Mucca Mad Boys
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It’s no coincidence that since we changed formation, our goals have come from out wide… Sakamoto and Wright did not look like scoring before playing as wide players.
Simms has a lot good attributes, he is strong, quick for his size and has some good movement in the box. His finishing is instinctual typical ‘poacher’ finishes. His highlights from Blackpool, Sunderland and Hearts show a player who likes to run into space and at defenders… we’ve not seen that from him yet.
Robins needs to stick with him for a good 5-10 games and if he doesn’t score, work with him tactically and coach the attributes we want from him. He’ll turn good as there are some good foundations there.
Tactically, as a team, we’re struggling to get anything to our centre forwards - Gooden looks placid too.
hill83
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Yeah but apart from that though
Marty
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Agree that Wright is better, but Simms is big, strong, fairly quick, he has the attributes to do something in the game, but he controls a ball like he has trampolines on his feet, has a powerful shot but we've barely seen it. He won't score goals for us, so imo he needs to go.
hill83
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His first touch is more powerful than my best shot with a 100 metre run up
Grendel
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He’s not our top goalscorer and he’s only 3rd best MPG
hill83
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Yeah but apart from that though
NorthernWisdom
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I was with you until the last sentence! I just don't see how a striker who did so well for Sunderland can constantly fire blanks for us... although he might of course. If he ended up in double figures that'd be... alright. And tbf if he caused more of a nuisance so others got goals, then that would do.
His touch does surprise me given his background in the game, I have to say. It's been truly shocking!
skybluecam
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Fair enough. We have seen the powerful shot a lot but the problem is that it has little direction. He needs coaching and to learn composure in front of goal. Generally accuracy is far more important as Sakamoto has shown regularly.
For better or for worse that won't be Robins, or the clubs, view. I guarantee you he'll still be here at the end of next season.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Palmer's contract is up in 2025 isn't it?
Grendel
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By that logic godden will also score 20 in a full 90 minute period and o hare 30
Mucca Mad Boys
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I seem to recall Gyokeres struggling to get into the team ahead of Biamou when he first joined us.
I’m sure many people wouldn’t have fancied signing him on the fee we did and no one would’ve called him being a top Championship striker either.
We’ve signed Simms to a 4 year contract and to write him off after 7 months is just not smart. He’ll improve and hopefully shows us what he can do.
He is a striker I feel you have to consciously involve in the game or he’ll lose concentration - he’s quite low energy.
Why would Godden score 20 goals in 90 minutes? Do you ever have anything useful fo say?
Grendel
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You seem very emotional
You used mpg to make a dig at a poster who doesn’t believe Wright is good enough and said he’d score 20 in a season if he played a full 90 minutes over a season.
So would godden and o hare would get 30
O'hare has been excellent since coming back from injury, the way he's been playing (and within this set-up), I believe he could get 20+ goals over a full season.
Godden has had multiple Championship seasons and never got near 20 goals. I guess we'll never know as he doesn't get close to playing a full season without injury problems.
skybluecam
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He is our top scorer, what are you smoking?
NorthernWisdom
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Godden's top isn't he?
Or are we talking league goals only so everybody can be right?~
skybluecam
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Depends how much value you give a penalty and two meaningless goals vs L1 opposition…
TomRad85
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Godden has 6 in the league, all bloody ages ago, as well as missing 2 pens. Surely no one is arguing he's more effective than Wright?
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mrtrench
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That's the spent cost fallacy. I hope Robins is better than that: ie fields the best player irrespective of what they cost. It's fine to make a mistake, I admire the strength of character to recognise a mistake and put it right.
Let's agree that we both hope he proves me wrong. But I've reached the point where I believe if we can get our money back we can get better for the money. You either believe it's worth waiting longer or that his performances so far are the best we will get for £9m, genuinely not sure which but opinions differ and I'm fine with whichever despite disagreeing on both.
If performances change my opinion will change.
TomRad85
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Brighton Sky Blue
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He has foreseen something us mere mortals have not.
