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Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #71
The best managers can adjust based on the club they're at and the circumstances at the time. Love or hate him but Fergie would never have lasted as long as he did if he was a one trick pony.

Kompany will always have a blot on his copybook to me for not changing anything about his style with Burnley and getting them humbled in the PL. It may well have been good for Vincent Kompany but the cream of the crop put their team before their reputation.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #72
Liquid Gold said:
The best managers can adjust based on the club they're at and the circumstances at the time. Love or hate him but Fergie would never have lasted as long as he did if he was a one trick pony.

Kompany will always have a blot on his copybook to me for not changing anything about his style with Burnley and getting them humbled in the PL. It may well have been good for Vincent Kompany but the cream of the crop put their team before their reputation.
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Who do you class as the best managers around right now out of curiosity?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #73
covcity4life said:
Who do you class as the best managers around right now out of curiosity?
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Out of work currently but Jurgen Klopp
 
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ovduk78

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #74
I saw a video of Rory Smith talking about Zidane winning 3 CLs at Real by not doing a lot of training, tactics, etc and standing watching games with arms folded and giving no instructions to players. It seemed that being Zidane was enough & Rory Smith was saying Real would probably take him back if he wanted it but Zidane seemingly wants to be French manager. Zidane clearly inherited a good Real squad but did nothing before or since so how can his time as a manager be rated?
 

Shannerz

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #75
covcity4life said:
Who do you class as the best managers around right now out of curiosity?
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Big Sam, Mike Bassett, Rob Edwards.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #76
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Out of work currently but Jurgen Klopp
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He's literally known for his systems thatxhe sticks too. He is Mr gegenpress

Listen to BBC euroleahues podcast from just this week. German journalist says he shouldn't go real Madrid cos he won't adapt his system for the Madrid players
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #77
covcity4life said:
He's literally known for his systems thatxhe sticks too. He is Mr gegenpress

Listen to BBC euroleahues podcast from just this week. German journalist says he shouldn't go real Madrid cos he won't adapt his system for the Madrid players
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We all have our biases. For me he’s played a big part in making football entertaining again while dislodging the big dogs in both Germany and England.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #78
covcity4life said:
He's literally known for his systems thatxhe sticks too. He is Mr gegenpress

Listen to BBC euroleahues podcast from just this week. German journalist says he shouldn't go real Madrid cos he won't adapt his system for the Madrid players
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Given Mbappe and Vini Jr just stand around by the halfway line when they don't have the ball can you imagine how they would react if asked to high press
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #79
covcity4life said:
Who do you class as the best managers around right now out of curiosity?
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Frank Lampard
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #80
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We all have our biases. For me he’s played a big part in making football entertaining again while dislodging the big dogs in both Germany and England.
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Ok but he doesn't adapt. The very reason you and others say you don't rate kompany!

I've won guys. Again!
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #81
covcity4life said:
Ok but he doesn't adapt. The very reason you and others say you don't rate kompany!

I've won guys. Again!
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Not quite, I didn't rate Russell Martin for saying he wouldn't change how he played even if he lost every game.

I don't rate Kompany (yet) because a) his style of football isn't for me and b) it only works when you have the best players around.

Klopp has won domestic titles in two countries with unfancied clubs and it was essentially his squad that won the title last year too.

It's OK for you to just say you prefer the possession based, slow tempo build up stuff. We could end it there really.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #82
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not quite, I didn't rate Russell Martin for saying he wouldn't change how he played even if he lost every game.

I don't rate Kompany (yet) because a) his style of football isn't for me and b) it only works when you have the best players around.

Klopp has won domestic titles in two countries with unfancied clubs and it was essentially his squad that won the title last year too.

It's OK for you to just say you prefer the possession based, slow tempo build up stuff. We could end it there really.
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The Manchester Derby was another nail in the coffin of slow possession for the sake of it football.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #83
covcity4life said:
Ok but he doesn't adapt. The very reason you and others say you don't rate kompany!

I've won guys. Again!
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Actually Klopp changed and adapted a number of times. Especially at Liverpool.

the philosophy stayed the same but he retooled his defence and midfield to win the league
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #84
I’m excited about Tuchel for England because he has been very flexible and successful wherever he’s been.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #85
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Actually Klopp changed and adapted a number of times. Especially at Liverpool.

the philosophy stayed the same but he retooled his defence and midfield to win the league
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Thank you. The philosophy stayed the same

I swear some of you just argue cos it's me and you hate that I know lots about football!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #86
covcity4life said:
Thank you. The philosophy stayed the same

I swear some of you just argue cos it's me and you hate that I know lots about football!
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Yes that’s clearly it, too smart for us.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #87
covcity4life said:
Thank you. The philosophy stayed the same

I swear some of you just argue cos it's me and you hate that I know lots about football!
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I’ve got no issue with a framework and idea - but the difference is Klopp identified the issues and changed it up.

Burnley’s issues were there to be seen - yet Kompany ploughed on.

we’re not saying switch to hoof ball, but showing some kind of awareness on how to effect the game
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #88
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’ve got no issue with a framework and idea - but the difference is Klopp identified the issues and changed it up.

Burnley’s issues were there to be seen - yet Kompany ploughed on.

we’re not saying switch to hoof ball, but showing some kind of awareness on how to effect the game
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Yeah try and drop you defensive line and mid block instead of high press

you can still try your possession football but just be more solid
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #89
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’ve got no issue with a framework and idea - but the difference is Klopp identified the issues and changed it up.

Burnley’s issues were there to be seen - yet Kompany ploughed on.

we’re not saying switch to hoof ball, but showing some kind of awareness on how to effect the game
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As always respect your opinion but just so your aware how I see all this it's all the talk has been he's stubborn about his philosophy. Now it's turned into just vague "issues" and not philosophy after all once I dealt with that argument

It's like my wife. Never admit I'm right just move the goalposts!
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #90
covcity4life said:
As always respect your opinion but just so your aware how I see all this it's all the talk has been he's stubborn about his philosophy. Now it's turned into just vague "issues" and not philosophy after all once I dealt with that argument

It's like my wife. Never admit I'm right just move the goalposts!
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Not sure how many times it has to be explained to you by this point.
 
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Shannerz

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  • Jan 23, 2026
  • #91
Just watched the Hamburg derby, and whilst both teams are struggling, the quality was diabolical.

I don't think anyone would have scored even if both sides had have combined their resources and started attacking the same goal.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2026
  • #92
Shannerz said:
Just watched the Hamburg derby, and whilst both teams are struggling, the quality was diabolical.

I don't think anyone would have scored even if both sides had have combined their resources and started attacking the same goal.
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I flicked over briefly and there was a Hamburg break. One player busted a gut and would have been in on goal potentially but his teammate failed to make the pass. Commentator with a honking German accent then said rather strangely that the runs were being made were poor.

Turned over after that. Awful.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2026
  • #93
Shannerz said:
Just watched the Hamburg derby, and whilst both teams are struggling, the quality was diabolical.

I don't think anyone would have scored even if both sides had have combined their resources and started attacking the same goal.
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Had it on in the background, really wasn't good. The Bundesliga 2 games on beforehand were actually pretty entertaining though.
 
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itsabuzzard

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2026
  • #94
covcity4life said:
Serie a for all it's money troubles has been the second best league the last few years and that looks likely to continue this year coefficient wise.

As for bundelsiga. Nothing has drastically changed from when nagelsman and kovac were in charge at Bayern in terms of the overall league. It's just kompany is much better

Harry kane helps of course. Insane numbers.
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Is Kompany aware you're stalking him?
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Jan 24, 2026
  • #95
covcity4life said:
Ok but he doesn't adapt. The very reason you and others say you don't rate kompany!

I've won guys. Again!
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FFS, give it a break.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #96
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We all have our biases. For me he’s played a big part in making football entertaining again while dislodging the big dogs in both Germany and England.
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Agreed, and to a point he worked with what he had. I think he must have been a great bloke to play under.

He was able to implement his style without having, for instance to spend £50 mill a pop on every position in the back 4.

That said he and Madrid may not be the best fit, the squad are a petulant gang of bastards
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #97
Nuskyblue said:
Agreed, and to a point he worked with what he had. I think he must have been a great bloke to play under.

He was able to implement his style without having, for instance to spend £50 mill a pop on every position in the back 4.

That said he and Madrid may not be the best fit, the squad are a petulant gang of bastards
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He wouldn't be a good fit for them, no. A few Germans I know would like to see him take the national job.
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #98
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He wouldn't be a good fit for them, no. A few Germans I know would like to see him take the national job.
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That would be fun, I think his brand of football would suit tournament play. I think Harry Redknap would have done well given the chance
 
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