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stevefloyd

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  • Oct 8, 2024
  • #176
Mucca Mad Boys said:
That would be valid if he didn’t have good depth at ST. The front 3 on Saturday after EMC came off had a combined total of 46 goals last season. The primary issue we have is that we did not fashion one clear cut chance for one of them.

It’s not so bad calling out strikers if they’re missing big chances - which happened last season. The more concerning thing is that we’ve got all this talent and not providing them any chances.

It’s not that he doesn’t trust Bassette, he just trust the more senior Simms and BTA - which is to be expected.
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And this is because of our weak midfield, just think how many chances we would create with someone like Hamer playing
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Oct 8, 2024
  • #177
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Agreed with both of you, which is why I was in favour of signing him. I just understand why DK would push back to Robins that the team should be good enough to perform at a certain level until a big money signing can be made.

Leadership gives intangible benefits to a group of players, stuff that isn’t reflected in statistics directly. This team needs leaders because they’re a young group - stuff we all know.

In relation to James, is it wise to pay a 4th choice CM 12-15k per week (Saddles quote) who won’t be match fit until January anyway? The answer to that depends on if we will sign a CM in Jan or not. We seen how Torp struggled for fitness being brought in off the back of preseason in Norway last season.
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When we got James a few seasons back he had not long come back from a long injury/injuries and he done a decent job then, at the very least when we have flagging central midfielders he can come on for the last 20 minutes and use his experience to get us over the line hopefully, rather than Robins thinking ohh we need a change then looking at the bench and thinking fuck it may as well stay as we are
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Oct 8, 2024
  • #178
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Simms doesn’t necessarily work on confidence or high energy running - he’s a convenient scapegoat when things aren’t going well. People instinctively like BTA and Bassette because they run more but their output is less than Simms. If we’re only going to create 0.6 xG a game at 0.05 xG per shot, we won’t win many games because those statistics tell the story.

The bottom line is that we’re not creating good enough chances for our forwards. When Robins spoke about players taking ‘the easy option’ on the ball, he was talking about the creators in our team, the midfield (including Rudoni) and our fullbacks. There’s been many times this season where forwards have made runs from deep behind defence and we’ve not took the risk. For every glorious pass to Bassette (v Spurs) there’s been several chances we’ve passed up on.
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You say "we are not creating enough chances" we have the most shot per game in our league according to footy stats as for runs many times I see Eccles and Sheaf looking up for them and having to play the sideways ball.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 8, 2024
  • #179
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Simms doesn’t necessarily work on confidence or high energy running - he’s a convenient scapegoat when things aren’t going well. People instinctively like BTA and Bassette because they run more but their output is less than Simms. If we’re only going to create 0.6 xG a game at 0.05 xG per shot, we won’t win many games because those statistics tell the story.

The bottom line is that we’re not creating good enough chances for our forwards. When Robins spoke about players taking ‘the easy option’ on the ball, he was talking about the creators in our team, the midfield (including Rudoni) and our fullbacks. There’s been many times this season where forwards have made runs from deep behind defence and we’ve not took the risk. For every glorious pass to Bassette (v Spurs) there’s been several chances we’ve passed up on.
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That said, in games where we have created good chances, they’ve nearly all been squandered.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Oct 8, 2024
  • #180
The watchmaker said:
I feel people are slightly exaggerating how bad Simms has been 'this season'. He had a good game against Watford, scored and was then promptly dropped. He could have had 2 assists against Spurs if other players had put away chances. Since then he has had a couple of minutes against Blackburn when the game was dead and has been subbed into two games where we were already playing terrible.
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It’s convenient scapegoating when we’ve have had several games. BTA played upfront for most of Saturday and we still lost, despite the ‘effort’ he put in.

Brighton Sky Blue said:
That said, in games where we have created good chances, they’ve nearly all been squandered.
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EMC and Wright have missed a few chances, Watford (A) springs to mind because we should’ve been out of sight before the equaliser/should’ve won it in stoppage time. The same could be said of Oxford (H). Outside of those 2 games, I’m struggling to think of league games where we had lots of good chances. Blackburn, we scored 3 good goals but I don’t think any of them were actually ‘clear cut’ - our xG was 1.13 that game and 0.05 per shot (the same as Sheff Weds on the per shot basis).

Stoke, Leeds, Swansea, Norwich, Bristol City, Sheffield Wednesday I can’t recall a ‘big chance’ we created from open play.

The stats, as far as I can see, suggests we’re just not making good chances as a team rather than our strikers being poor.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 8, 2024
  • #181
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s convenient scapegoating when we’ve have had several games. BTA played upfront for most of Saturday and we still lost, despite the ‘effort’ he put in.


EMC and Wright have missed a few chances, Watford (A) springs to mind because we should’ve been out of sight before the equaliser/should’ve won it in stoppage time. The same could be said of Oxford (H). Outside of those 2 games, I’m struggling to think of league games where we had lots of good chances. Blackburn, we scored 3 good goals but I don’t think any of them were actually ‘clear cut’ - our xG was 1.13 that game and 0.05 per shot (the same as Sheff Weds on the per shot basis).

Stoke, Leeds, Swansea, Norwich, Bristol City, Sheffield Wednesday I can’t recall a ‘big chance’ we created from open play.

The stats, as far as I can see, suggests we’re just not making good chances as a team rather than our strikers being poor.
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We had a great chance in the opening minute at Stoke and had a pretty high xG chance against Swansea where Bassette hit the bar. I appreciate not bucketloads but we weren’t a very clinical side last season either
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Oct 8, 2024
  • #182
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We had a great chance in the opening minute at Stoke and had a pretty high xG chance against Swansea where Bassette hit the bar. I appreciate not bucketloads but we weren’t a very clinical side last season either
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Our 2 best chances v Stoke were in the second half, Binks and Simms, both from corners:

Stoke vs Coventry - xG Shot Maps - Football - Sporting Life

Get the form, statistics, line ups and live commentary for Stoke vs Coventry
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As for Swansea, you’re right - I thought both Bassette and Rudoni’s big chances were from set pieces.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 8, 2024
  • #183
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Our 2 best chances v Stoke were in the second half, Binks and Simms, both from corners:

Stoke vs Coventry - xG Shot Maps - Football - Sporting Life

Get the form, statistics, line ups and live commentary for Stoke vs Coventry
www.sportinglife.com

As for Swansea, you’re right - I thought both Bassette and Rudoni’s big chances were from set pieces.
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The Stoke one is probably being missed by the fact Simms didn’t even get a shot away if memory serves.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 8, 2024
  • #184
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The Stoke one is probably being missed by the fact Simms didn’t even get a shot away if memory serves.
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Yes because his touch was absolutely horrendous as it is too often.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 8, 2024
  • #185
fernandopartridge said:
Yes because his touch was absolutely horrendous as it is too often.
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Indeed. I couldn’t believe we didn’t even test the keeper from the position we got.
 
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