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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #246
I would hope the defence shows improvement for this game against a team who haven't scored yet. Needing to score 3 goals to win a game so far isn't what you want to be counting on
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #247
Dimi_Konstantflapalot said:
2 of those 4 goals conceded were from corners which I'd argue is a team failing not just the defence. The other 2 were McFadzean's fault, so if you're dropping anyone based on mistakes leading to goals it's him.

No way I'd bin him off for Rose when he's just scored the winner and we need his experience at this early stage

To me Ostigard looks the most vulnerable for Rose, noticed he sometimes over-commits especially in the air as he's desperate to win his aerial duels. This leads to giving away a few fouls unnecessarily. Not a big thing and can be easily rectified but just something I've noticed.
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He’s an absolute winner though. I agree with your summary though and think rose will struggle to break into the team for a few weeks
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #248


 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #249
In 34 L1 matches last season we only conceded more than one goal in 5 games. We have played 2 Championship games and conceded more than once in both. There is greater emphasis on the attack this season
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #250
This one is going to be interesting. Always the optimist, is the away win likely here?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #251
Philosorapter said:
This one is going to be interesting. Always the optimist, is the away win likely here?
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The bookies don't have us as favourites, you can get 5/2 on CCFC which I think is a great price. We were shorter than that to beat QPR albeit at home
 

SkyBlue_Adam

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #252
SlowerThanPlatt said:
In 34 L1 matches last season we only conceded more than one goal in 5 games. We have played 2 Championship games and conceded more than once in both. There is greater emphasis on the attack this season
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Agree with this. Would also add that we are yet to concede a goal of true quality, the goals we have conceded have all been very avoidable. Need to tighten the defense up.
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #253
Briles said:
Mcfazdean scored and Dabo and Giles got assists.
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You’d think so wouldn’t you?

 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #254
SlowerThanPlatt said:
The bookies don't have us as favourites, you can get 5/2 on CCFC which I think is a great price. We were shorter than that to beat QPR albeit at home
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Barnsley are 11/10... I know bookies use a lot of data to form their prices so perhaps their data says they've been unlucky in defeat
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #255
SlowerThanPlatt said:
In 34 L1 matches last season we only conceded more than one goal in 5 games. We have played 2 Championship games and conceded more than once in both. There is greater emphasis on the attack this season
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On the other hand we’ve had half our defence from last season changed and the defensive midfield, and have only conceded one from open play and that was before we’d even touched the ball.

We aren’t being carved open. We’ve had one shell shock goal in the first 20 seconds, two corners where people don’t know their jobs and a soft penalty.

Early days, but could be a lot lot worse. QPR never looked like threatening really despite having free reign for 45 mins.

Cheer up
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #256
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Barnsley are 11/10... I know bookies use a lot of data to form their prices so perhaps their data says they've been unlucky in defeat
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The teams Barnsley have lost to are rated high up with Glicko. They (Barnsley opponents) have done well in their other matches as well.

It's hard to place any figure on Barnsley's strength going just by the results at the moment.

Alternatively, Coventry have lost to Bristol City which may be a strong team in the division and a win against QPR.

So many unknowns here.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #257
Shankland hat trick
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #258
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
You’d think so wouldn’t you?

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Not sure he's got much of an argument tbh, it did take a huge deflection.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #259
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Not sure he's got much of an argument tbh, it did take a huge deflection.
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His work and skill led to the goal - I call that an assist
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #260
Reckon MR will keep an unchanged line up if possible. I'd consider swapping Shipley for Sheaf but other than that no other changes. Giles should start as Barnsley are a slightly less attacking threat than other teams so going with the more attacking of Giles and McCallum makes sense, esp when you consider he has the shirt and has played quite well
 

Barnsley

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #261
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Reckon MR will keep an unchanged line up if possible. I'd consider swapping Shipley for Sheaf but other than that no other changes. Giles should start as Barnsley are a slightly less attacking threat than other teams so going with the more attacking of Giles and McCallum makes sense, esp when you consider he has the shirt and has played quite well
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In our previous two home games in the league we’ve had 30 shots at goal, with 8 on target, but only scored 1, we’re an attacking threat, as in we’ll create plenty of chances, but our goal scoring threat in minimal, verging on non existent. But as Robins got the bottle to risk us continuing to miss chances?. And pick an attack minded team. He’ll have been watching our previous games this week, and had a number of scouting reports done on us leading up to Saturday, he’ll know what to expect.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #262
When I say less of an attacking threat I mean in terms of conceding. If he thinks you're less likely to put your chances away he's probably more willing to concede those opportunities in favour of having a better attacking option of our own creating chances for us rather than trying to negate letting you have chances which you're less likely to take.

I've no idea what may happen in the game and I reckon it'll be an interesting game. We're more than capable of winning it, certainly if we play near our best, but then so are you.

A couple of weeks ago I've been expressing my fear over having more teams pressing us this year given our style of play and the quicker, fitter players able to do it more quickly, effectively and for a longer period. But the first few games have shown we can adapt to that.
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #263
I'm confident we will get a point or even nick a narrow win, 2-1 maybe. Looking at the games we have following that it would certainly be handy to pick another 3 points up.
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #264
Sky Blue Harry H said:
........Dabo......?
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He's superman though, we're talking about normal people here.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #265
you’ve gotta fancy us in this one but that’s when I begin to worry

2-1 win or 1-1 draw
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #266
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Barnsley are 11/10... I know bookies use a lot of data to form their prices so perhaps their data says they've been unlucky in defeat
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I haven't seen a proper analysis of the results of BCD games but my impression is that there has been a significant decrease in home wins from before BCD started. If so, I think bookies have been a bit slow in adapting their odds to that situation, and which therefore leads to potentially much more value in odds for away teams than ought to be the case right now.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #267
If our northern friend is correct we'll have difficulty playing against 70s Brazil, 2012 Barcelona and 90s Milan all combined.

2-0 win
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #268
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
When I say less of an attacking threat I mean in terms of conceding. If he thinks you're less likely to put your chances away he's probably more willing to concede those opportunities in favour of having a better attacking option of our own creating chances for us rather than trying to negate letting you have chances which you're less likely to take.

I've no idea what may happen in the game and I reckon it'll be an interesting game. We're more than capable of winning it, certainly if we play near our best, but then so are you.

A couple of weeks ago I've been expressing my fear over having more teams pressing us this year given our style of play and the quicker, fitter players able to do it more quickly, effectively and for a longer period. But the first few games have shown we can adapt to that.
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With all due respect, we won’t change our team to suit you. I’d be surprised if we did for anyone in the division.

Edit: totally the wrong post quoted. You lot are smart you can figure it out.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #269
cc84cov said:
you’ve gotta fancy us in this one but that’s when I begin to worry

2-1 win or 1-1 draw
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No change there then...
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #270
3-2 Godden hattrick. Thomas and Chaplin for them,

same team as Friday night - possibly sheaf in for Shipley
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #271
Barnsley said:
In our previous two home games in the league we’ve had 30 shots at goal, with 8 on target, but only scored 1, we’re an attacking threat, as in we’ll create plenty of chances, but our goal scoring threat in minimal, verging on non existent. But as Robins got the bottle to risk us continuing to miss chances?. And pick an attack minded team. He’ll have been watching our previous games this week, and had a number of scouting reports done on us leading up to Saturday, he’ll know what to expect.
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He he is again pretending his awful team that hasn't scored and fluked staying up is pretending his team is the 1970 Brazil team coupled with the early 1960s Inter defence.
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #272
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Not sure he's got much of an argument tbh, it did take a huge deflection.
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It was heading into the area, strikers get goals if it was on target before it was deflected.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #273
ccfcricoh said:
Barnsley fan says strikers are good at defending but cant score. So thats a clean sheet sorted then.

We've scored in 23 of our 25 last competitive games

I'm confident of a tight win, not saying it will be easy, but im still confident!
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With the way we’re playing I back both teams to score.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #274
Brighton Sky Blue said:
With the way we’re playing I back both teams to score.
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Our weakness has been set-pieces and corners though. I'm glad they have Chaplin up top.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #275
Liquid Gold said:
Our weakness has been set-pieces and corners though. I'm glad they have Chaplin up top.
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True but we allowed centre backs to score each time
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #276
Didn’t care about losing the cup game, but this week feels like forever waiting for the next match. Wish we were playing midweek now.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #277
shmmeee said:
Didn’t care about losing the cup game, but this week feels like forever waiting for the next match. Wish we were playing midweek now.
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Don’t worry there’s plenty of that to come shortly
 

ccfcricoh

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #278
Barnsley said:
In our previous two home games in the league we’ve had 30 shots at goal, with 8 on target, but only scored 1, we’re an attacking threat, as in we’ll create plenty of chances, but our goal scoring threat in minimal, verging on non existent. But as Robins got the bottle to risk us continuing to miss chances?. And pick an attack minded team. He’ll have been watching our previous games this week, and had a number of scouting reports done on us leading up to Saturday, he’ll know what to expect.
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If you goal scoring threat is minimal, sorry, but so is your attacking threat! same thing.

Defensively we're very good we just let lots of goals in!
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #279
2-0 city win
 

Gibbo

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  • Sep 22, 2020
  • #280
Aren't Barnsley are just going to whang in as many set piece crosses to the far post, particularly from our right. On current form that might be a problem. Oh, and they will probabaly try to get Thomas 1 on 1 on McFaz . I'm going to be watching through my fingers.

But Godden is going to get the 7th, surely....

1-1 (the default, cop out prediction)
 
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