Awfull tactics from lampard (5 Viewers)

[Perennial Lurker]

Its effectively a CM in this system.

He's done it more than once .
I think it was a combination of BTA not as effective out wide and Eccles not quite at it first half
EMC coming on just seemed to align everything

 

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[stupot07]

Eccles isn't a 10. He's not attacking or creative enough.

Bta was great there and won lots of headers to bootso was it "awfull" tactics Vs wrexham or just fans having a clueless rant because we finally lost?

I agree with the first bit about Eccles but not the second, the tactics were wrong against Wrexham, we were outnumbered and dominated in midfield.

 

[covcity4life]

I agree with the first bit about Eccles but not the second, the tactics were wrong against Wrexham, we were outnumbered and dominated in midfield.

Was it just what lampard said though in terms of compete levels?

The formation with bta as part of front 4 has won us so many games in rudonis absence after all

 

[Perennial Lurker]

I agree with the first bit about Eccles but not the second, the tactics were wrong against Wrexham, we were outnumbered and dominated in midfield.

Which is why I think Lampard felt he had to play an extra midfielder tonight

 

[Perennial Lurker]

Was it just what lampard said though in terms of compete levels?

The formation with bta as part of front 4 has won us so many games in rudonis absence after all

But that formation collapsed second half against Wrexham

 

[covcity4life]

But that formation collapsed second half against Wrexham

So one half against what 5-6 wins???

It was too early for a thread like this

 

[Perennial Lurker]

So one half against what 5-6 wins???

It was too early for a thread like this

Yeah the threads daft

 

[wingy]

Proven?

One game Vs 10 man Birmingham?

He's a central midfielder simple as that

Well if you put it like that, something about this squad was obviously different when he's been on before as he's had plenty of opportunity from 18yds before, but I actually agree Torp should have played the advanced role.

 

[Hullinho87]

We have tried all sorts of tactics, perhaps every type of tactic in this league and none of them has worked. Closest it did was counter attack in the Vik, Hamer season.

This season we are going with overloads in the final third (amongst other tactical tweaks) and that does at times, leave us exposed, especially in a 2 man midfield … you would have thought this wouldn’t be sustainable, but we will be top come the November international break scoring 2.79 goals a game and conceding 0.93.

.. so maybe that’s all the analysis that is required on Lampard’s tactics for now?

 

[skybluecam]

Limited sample size but the stats seem pretty clear to me:

With Rudoni starting (Hull, Derby, QPR, Oxford, Norwich, Leicester): Avg xG: 1.97 Avg xGA: 0.8

With BTA starting centrally (Sheff Wed, Blackburn, Watford, Wrexham):
Avg xG: 2.1 Avg xGA: 1.55

We are giving up significantly more chances when we play a 2 man midfield - and if you exclude the Sheff Wed game those numbers drop to xG 1.16/xGA 1.7.

Playing a 2 man midfield is not sustainable.

 

[TomRad85]

Limited sample size but the stats seem pretty clear to me:

With Rudoni starting (Hull, Derby, QPR, Oxford, Norwich, Leicester): Avg xG: 1.97 Avg xGA: 0.8

With BTA starting centrally (Sheff Wed, Blackburn, Watford, Wrexham):
Avg xG: 2.1 Avg xGA: 1.55

We are giving up significantly more chances when we play a 2 man midfield - and if you exclude the Sheff Wed game those numbers drop to xG 1.16/xGA 1.7.

Playing a 2 man midfield is not sustainable.

I agree, but with Rudoni out i don't really think we have an obvious answer and BTA in the 10 is just making the best of the situation. Hopefully just one more against Stoke then Rudi is back after the break. It's clear to me we need someone who can play that position in the Jan window.

 

[wingy]

Limited sample size but the stats seem pretty clear to me:

With Rudoni starting (Hull, Derby, QPR, Oxford, Norwich, Leicester): Avg xG: 1.97 Avg xGA: 0.8

With BTA starting centrally (Sheff Wed, Blackburn, Watford, Wrexham):
Avg xG: 2.1 Avg xGA: 1.55

We are giving up significantly more chances when we play a 2 man midfield - and if you exclude the Sheff Wed game those numbers drop to xG 1.16/xGA 1.7.

Playing a 2 man midfield is not sustainable.

So either of Rudoni and BTA will be required to produce an exceptional outlet or when Rudi is back he's as prolific as second half of last season?

 

[skybluecam]

I agree, but with Rudoni out i don't really think we have an obvious answer and BTA in the 10 is just making the best of the situation. Hopefully just one more against Stoke then Rudi is back after the break. It's clear to me we need someone who can play that position in the Jan window.

I wouldn't mind us using 5 at the back against Stoke, as we did at Portsmouth.

 

[TomRad85]

I wouldn't mind us using 5 at the back against Stoke, as we did at Portsmouth.

I reckon one last push before the break and just try and batter them into submission. Fuck knows though, its an interesting one.

 

[wingy]

I reckon one last push before the break and just try and batter them into submission. Fuck knows though, its an interesting one.

Maybe, that's the way Frank planned it, that's the way Frank planned it ,to arrive at this game finish with a flourish?.
New Song for the gaffer thrown in,always loved Billy Preston, the Fifth Beatle!