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  • Start date Oct 31, 2025
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #176
Ccfcisparks said:
Its effectively a CM in this system.
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He's done it more than once .
I think it was a combination of BTA not as effective out wide and Eccles not quite at it first half
EMC coming on just seemed to align everything
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #177
covcity4life said:
Eccles isn't a 10. He's not attacking or creative enough.

Bta was great there and won lots of headers to bootso was it "awfull" tactics Vs wrexham or just fans having a clueless rant because we finally lost?
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I agree with the first bit about Eccles but not the second, the tactics were wrong against Wrexham, we were outnumbered and dominated in midfield.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #178
stupot07 said:
I agree with the first bit about Eccles but not the second, the tactics were wrong against Wrexham, we were outnumbered and dominated in midfield.
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Was it just what lampard said though in terms of compete levels?

The formation with bta as part of front 4 has won us so many games in rudonis absence after all
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #179
stupot07 said:
I agree with the first bit about Eccles but not the second, the tactics were wrong against Wrexham, we were outnumbered and dominated in midfield.
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Which is why I think Lampard felt he had to play an extra midfielder tonight
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #180
covcity4life said:
Was it just what lampard said though in terms of compete levels?

The formation with bta as part of front 4 has won us so many games in rudonis absence after all
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But that formation collapsed second half against Wrexham
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #181
Perennial Lurker said:
But that formation collapsed second half against Wrexham
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So one half against what 5-6 wins???

It was too early for a thread like this
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #182
covcity4life said:
So one half against what 5-6 wins???

It was too early for a thread like this
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Yeah the threads daft
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #183
covcity4life said:
Proven?

One game Vs 10 man Birmingham?

He's a central midfielder simple as that
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Well if you put it like that, something about this squad was obviously different when he's been on before as he's had plenty of opportunity from 18yds before, but I actually agree Torp should have played the advanced role.
 

Hullinho87

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #184
We have tried all sorts of tactics, perhaps every type of tactic in this league and none of them has worked. Closest it did was counter attack in the Vik, Hamer season.

This season we are going with overloads in the final third (amongst other tactical tweaks) and that does at times, leave us exposed, especially in a 2 man midfield … you would have thought this wouldn’t be sustainable, but we will be top come the November international break scoring 2.79 goals a game and conceding 0.93.

.. so maybe that’s all the analysis that is required on Lampard’s tactics for now?
 
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skybluecam

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #185
Limited sample size but the stats seem pretty clear to me:

With Rudoni starting (Hull, Derby, QPR, Oxford, Norwich, Leicester): Avg xG: 1.97 Avg xGA: 0.8

With BTA starting centrally (Sheff Wed, Blackburn, Watford, Wrexham):
Avg xG: 2.1 Avg xGA: 1.55

We are giving up significantly more chances when we play a 2 man midfield - and if you exclude the Sheff Wed game those numbers drop to xG 1.16/xGA 1.7.

Playing a 2 man midfield is not sustainable.
 

TomRad85

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #186
skybluecam said:
Limited sample size but the stats seem pretty clear to me:

With Rudoni starting (Hull, Derby, QPR, Oxford, Norwich, Leicester): Avg xG: 1.97 Avg xGA: 0.8

With BTA starting centrally (Sheff Wed, Blackburn, Watford, Wrexham):
Avg xG: 2.1 Avg xGA: 1.55

We are giving up significantly more chances when we play a 2 man midfield - and if you exclude the Sheff Wed game those numbers drop to xG 1.16/xGA 1.7.

Playing a 2 man midfield is not sustainable.
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I agree, but with Rudoni out i don't really think we have an obvious answer and BTA in the 10 is just making the best of the situation. Hopefully just one more against Stoke then Rudi is back after the break. It's clear to me we need someone who can play that position in the Jan window.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #187
skybluecam said:
Limited sample size but the stats seem pretty clear to me:

With Rudoni starting (Hull, Derby, QPR, Oxford, Norwich, Leicester): Avg xG: 1.97 Avg xGA: 0.8

With BTA starting centrally (Sheff Wed, Blackburn, Watford, Wrexham):
Avg xG: 2.1 Avg xGA: 1.55

We are giving up significantly more chances when we play a 2 man midfield - and if you exclude the Sheff Wed game those numbers drop to xG 1.16/xGA 1.7.

Playing a 2 man midfield is not sustainable.
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So either of Rudoni and BTA will be required to produce an exceptional outlet or when Rudi is back he's as prolific as second half of last season?
 

skybluecam

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #188
TomRad85 said:
I agree, but with Rudoni out i don't really think we have an obvious answer and BTA in the 10 is just making the best of the situation. Hopefully just one more against Stoke then Rudi is back after the break. It's clear to me we need someone who can play that position in the Jan window.
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I wouldn't mind us using 5 at the back against Stoke, as we did at Portsmouth.
 

TomRad85

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #189
skybluecam said:
I wouldn't mind us using 5 at the back against Stoke, as we did at Portsmouth.
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I reckon one last push before the break and just try and batter them into submission. Fuck knows though, its an interesting one.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #190
TomRad85 said:
I reckon one last push before the break and just try and batter them into submission. Fuck knows though, its an interesting one.
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Maybe, that's the way Frank planned it, that's the way Frank planned it ,to arrive at this game finish with a flourish?.
New Song for the gaffer thrown in,always loved Billy Preston, the Fifth Beatle!
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #191
skybluecam said:
Limited sample size but the stats seem pretty clear to me:

With Rudoni starting (Hull, Derby, QPR, Oxford, Norwich, Leicester): Avg xG: 1.97 Avg xGA: 0.8

With BTA starting centrally (Sheff Wed, Blackburn, Watford, Wrexham):
Avg xG: 2.1 Avg xGA: 1.55

We are giving up significantly more chances when we play a 2 man midfield - and if you exclude the Sheff Wed game those numbers drop to xG 1.16/xGA 1.7.

Playing a 2 man midfield is not sustainable.
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Think it's a bit more viable when we are at home, when teams are more defensively set up.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #192
Londonccfcfan said:
Think it's a bit more viable when we are at home, when teams are more defensively set up.
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Back to the sixties I think that was could have been later through.
 
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