Arrogant or Confident (2 Viewers)

smileycov · Aug 17, 2012

With the season starting tomorrow, and by the looks of itour Squad pretty much complete.Doubt we will add to it now, (Barring 1 more striker we are looking at). How do we really feel about our chances this season

Me, I look at the others and I can honestly say I feel wewill finish top 1 - 6.
We have International players, Players that would compete in the Championship at least, and Players that are highly rated but yet to reach that potential. Why not now?
Our Stadium is awesome compared to the shitholes we will visit, yes we have lost support, but most in this league get 5k on a good day.We will average between 12 - 20k depending on performance. Our Away support alone will be 1 of the best most Clubs will get this season without doubt.
I honestly look around and think we will be fine, I am more optimistic this year than anytime in the last 5 say.

Confident or Arrogant?

WONDERLAMPS · Aug 17, 2012

Everything there is true :claping hands: backing us for automatic promotion

covcity4life · Aug 17, 2012

confident

we have possibly best squad if not top 3 in league

its all fine on paper,its all on thorn to step up now,last chance saloon.

we are due some good times,let this be the season the fightback finnally begins!

Sky_Blue_Ste · Aug 17, 2012

The attitude of the players & their management will be key - not their potential

Potentially we have as good as squad as anyone else - if they have a winning mentality & work hard we should be fine

Diehard Si · Aug 17, 2012

Cautiously confident

Fluffsta · Aug 17, 2012

We have a team now to challenge for a top 6 in my opinion but my major concern now is AT. I am still behind him but in this league I can only give him 10 games at max before I start to turn.

We need to get out of this league within 12 months its as simple as that but if we are sitting mid table starting to drift after 10 games then Thorn has to go.

Thorn as a scout has proved himself but now is the real test. He stepped up and now he has to step up as a manager.

10 games.

Sutty · Aug 17, 2012

We can challenge for the top 6 in my view, but a lot of our signings are unknown quantities. The first few games will give us a much better idea of where we are.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · Aug 17, 2012

I am somewhere between hopeful and confident.

I wish some of the bad press surrounding the club wasn't there on the eve of a new season - the court case regarding the unpaid rent, and the evident anger with regards the 'alterations' to the players contracts; as this can't give rise to a contented squad.

That stated, the squad does look good enough to be there-or-thereabouts, and accordingly, it's up to Thorn to prove his worth

CovMatt1987 · Aug 17, 2012

All of those points are pretty valid - we should be challenging for a top six place without a doubt. A few concerns I have would be - Andy Thorn's overconfidence on certain players. this league is an unknown quantity to us, it worries me when he throws out comments like Cody Macdonald will be the top scorer in League 1 next season - how can he possibly know that? Also, someone else bought up a good point about getting the winning mentality, as with this club it certainly hasnt been there for a number of years. and yes, big changes to the squad mean we need them to blend well early.

but aside from the concerns, we should have more than enough quality player wise to finish top 6. I actually see us being very good away from home this season - like you mention big away support (by league 1 standards) and less expectations where as at home i think the team will be under big pressure (although should still win more often then not).

im going to predict 4th - oh and hello all newly registered cov fan here.

Liam Ccfc Varney · Aug 17, 2012

Very confident, we have built up a good squad and I believe we will be at the top again by next season. I have faith in AT to do well this season as he has signed up a lot of good players and hopefully a new striker which could add to all our goals.

PUSB!

Changeyourface · Aug 17, 2012

Don't get the attitude that so many people have regarding our ground. People keep saying that we have one of the best grounds in the league as if this is going to have any affect on performances. No away team is going to be intimidated travelling to a more than half empty, souless, legoland style stadium in the middle of nowhere. As a player I'd be more intimidated going to a traditional ground where the fans aren't half a mile away from the pitch.

Liam Ccfc Varney · Aug 17, 2012

Our rented stadium is much better than all the other un rented ones!

Spence CCFC · Aug 17, 2012

Mentality is key, we need to be arrogant as well as confident to succeed in this league.

DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe · Aug 17, 2012

I'm just hopeful, albeit with perhaps more confidence than in recent memory (due to plying our trade in a lower division and having made some new signings to create a - numerically, at least - 'stronger squad'). Don't know enough about our new lads or the other teams to say whether this hope is realistic... you don't have to support Cov for very long to feel like a 'long-suffering fan'. Since we dropped out of the top flight, hopeful optimism has waned, to say the least. I think we are going to finish higher in the League than I can remember (I didn't see much of our first season in the Championship as I was away at uni - can't remember where we ended up, but think I have missed our highest finish in my lifetime thus far, so my time is now!). I think Thorn will go during the season if we don't look like we are challenging in or around the Play Offs. While I think he gets some unfair stick on here (less so than his 'supporters' seem to; all manner of fantastical assertions tend to be attributed to anyone who doesn't write him off as shit - although I am sure that works the other way too), I think we need to be challenging this season. I don't want to spend years here, I want to go up. I'm looking forward to the new season and hoping that optimism builds as it continues.

Liam Ccfc Varney · Aug 17, 2012

DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe said:
I'm just hopeful, albeit with perhaps more confidence than in recent memory (due to plying our trade in a lower division and having made some new signings to create a - numerically, at least - 'stronger squad'). Don't know enough about our new lads or the other teams to say whether this hope is realistic... you don't have to support Cov for very long to feel like a 'long-suffering fan'. Since we dropped out of the top flight, hopeful optimism has waned, to say the least. I think we are going to finish higher in the League than I can remember (I didn't see much of our first season in the Championship as I was away at uni - can't remember where we ended up, but think I have missed our highest finish in my lifetime thus far, so my time is now!). I think Thorn will go during the season if we don't look like we are challenging in or around the Play Offs. While I think he gets some unfair stick on here (less so than his 'supporters' seem to; all manner of fantastical assertions tend to be attributed to anyone who doesn't write him off as shit - although I am sure that works the other way too), I think we need to be challenging this season. I don't want to spend years here, I want to go up. I'm looking forward to the new season and hoping that optimism builds as it continues.

Why not write a biography whilst your at it?:/

Changeyourface · Aug 17, 2012

First season down we finished around 10th, dropped away drastically the last few months. Our highest finish in the 2nd Division was 8th under Micky Adams I think.

DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe · Aug 17, 2012

Liam Ccfc Varney said:
Why not write a biography whilst your at it?:/

Let me know if I need to walk you through the main points.

stupot07 · Aug 17, 2012

Sounds a bit arrogant tbh.

skyblueman · Aug 17, 2012

Confident? Yeah I am a bit
Arrogant? No not a bit - 20+ points after 10 games and yeah I'd be getting that way
Suicidal? 15 points or less 10 games in and I'd be gutted can't take another year like last year

johnniericoh · Aug 17, 2012

Like the majority of posters to this thread the squad does indeed look attractive and fit for purpose for this season.

My only fear is the tactics AT will instill on the team - I felt last year we were ultra defensive, particularly with Sideways Sammy and the reluctance by ANY midfielder to push forward, it looked obvious this was the preferred playing style and despite tinkering all it gave us was 9 wins and relegation.

We need to be more adventurous in our play - easier said than done I know - instead of trying to walk the ball into the net let us have more first time speculative shooting.

Just look at the times Kieren Westwood was rooted to the spot watching 25 yard missiles explode the back of the net from the opposition, same with Joe Murphy but not to the same extent (strange that)

So AT free the shackles, go for goal and a top 6 finish is a certainty with automatic promotion spots a distinct possibility.

PUSB

smileycov · Aug 17, 2012

stupot07 said:
Sounds a bit arrogant tbh.

Your opinion - thanks....but why? what i have listed should fill us suffering fans with confidence. If you can rip all i have put apart, then maybe arrogant it is. But i have tried to be factual and not just slated the opposistion with un biased statements.

smileycov · Aug 17, 2012

Changeyourface said:
Don't get the attitude that so many people have regarding our ground. People keep saying that we have one of the best grounds in the league as if this is going to have any affect on performances. No away team is going to be intimidated travelling to a more than half empty, souless, legoland style stadium in the middle of nowhere. As a player I'd be more intimidated going to a traditional ground where the fans aren't half a mile away from the pitch.

I mentioned the Stadium, more in the fact that yes we are a bigger club than most in this league so we should play to that affect, we are a bigger club and this season in this league i do believe it will show.

stupot07 · Aug 17, 2012

smileycov said:
Your opinion - thanks....but why? what i have listed should fill us suffering fans with confidence. If you can rip all i have put apart, then maybe arrogant it is. But i have tried to be factual and not just slated the opposistion with un biased statements.

Because I look at PNE - internationals? Check (e.g Hulme). Players that would compete in the championship? Check (lots of champ experience) Proven manager? Check (brown sacked dec), big stadium? Check (17.5k highest attendance last season).

Top 6 finish? Nope 15th

smileycov · Aug 17, 2012

fair enough!! I am still confident though ha ha. Also i bet they were confident and arrogant prior to last season :claping hands:

chiefdave · Aug 17, 2012

I would like to think we can push for a promotion place. Very important to get a good start so we don't let heads drop and have everyone thinking 'here we go again'. What could be key this season is what happens in the January window. If we're doing well and pushing for promotion there's a good chance we'll get offers for some of our players. The response to that could decide if we can maintain a promotion push or not but that's a while down the road so let's concentrate on being in a decent position in January first.

stupot07 · Aug 17, 2012

smileycov said:
fair enough!! I am still confident though ha ha. Also i bet they were confident and arrogant prior to last season :claping hands:

Probably and they were predicted a top 6 finish, while Stevenage were tipped for relegation

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/football-league-blog/2011/aug/04/league-one-2011-12-preview

http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/upthef...2-steel-city-rivals-battle-for-supremacy.aspx

http://www.the-football-blog.co.uk/the-football-blog-league-one-20112012-preview

jimmyhillsfanclub · Aug 17, 2012

I'm very confident.....

...confident in city fucking it right up as they have done for the last 11 seasons on the run.....

We are Coventry City & we will finish 17th.

PUSB

standupforcity · Aug 17, 2012

jimmyhillsfanclub said:
I'm very confident.....

...confident in city fucking it right up as they have done for the last 11 seasons on the run.....

We are Coventry City & we will finish 17th.

PUSB

Ah there you are again with your constructive comments....you must be very bored!

DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe · Aug 17, 2012

jimmyhillsfanclub said:
I'm very confident.....

...confident in city fucking it right up as they have done for the last 11 seasons on the run.....

We are Coventry City & we will finish 17th.

PUSB

Constructive or not, this raised a smile.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Aug 17, 2012

...Oooh pardon me...

....I just don't buy all this guff that we're contenders..... I'm 41 years old & followed city since the 1970's & We have NEVER been contenders in any division since I was born.

I don't see that changing just cos we've found our level.

17th.

covcity4life · Aug 17, 2012

smileycov said:
Your opinion - thanks....but why? what i have listed should fill us suffering fans with confidence. If you can rip all i have put apart, then maybe arrogant it is. But i have tried to be factual and not just slated the opposistion with un biased statements.

stu is incredibly scared of league one and all the clubs in it

yes some teams struggle but some teams jump back up first time of asking too,we shouldnt fear anyone.

DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe · Aug 17, 2012

It is not the City or the fans level, whatever people say about apathy. We are a big, one Club city with a big ground and decent potential fanbase... we should be plying our trade at a higher level than this, but the team and manager have to earn the right. I'm a decade younger than you, but still well enough versed in the lack of excitement and success in the life of a Cov fan. I still want us in or around the Play Offs... give me a further ten years in this league or lower and I will modify my hopeful optimism accordingly.

stupot07 · Aug 17, 2012

covcity4life said:
stu is incredibly scared of league one and all the clubs in it

yes some teams struggle but some teams jump back up first time of asking too,we shouldnt fear anyone.

Very few teams jump back the first time of asking...in fact I believe that only 3 teams have done it during our championship years.

Sutty · Aug 17, 2012

The arrogance is all this 'league one tour' rubbish people are spouting. Massive underestimation of the opposition, who have plenty of players that will cause us problems. My worry is that to some extent, people are expecting us to walk through the league and we could see Thorn turned on very quickly if results don't go our way early on.

Nothing wrong though with looking at things objectively and thinking we're one of 10-12 teams that could realistically fancy their chances of promotion, and should be up there come the end of the season.

Nick · Aug 17, 2012

A lot of people keep saying "It is only so and so" as if we have a given right to win every game this season.

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