SkyBlueDom26
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Wonderfully moving video..
“They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them.”
My family is in France. The whole country comes to a standstill. The schools and most businesses are closed today. It is a full day of remembrance and then celebration. It makes our Sunday look low key. Even most villages have their own service.
Course we’ll forget. It’s the human way
We are spending Armistice Day by berating a potential Prime Minister for wanting to be cautious about going to war or committing genocide for revenge.
We’ve already forgotten.
Jesus Christ.We are spending Armistice Day by berating a potential Prime Minister for wanting to be cautious about going to war or committing genocide for revenge.
We’ve already forgotten.
Jesus Christ.
He’d also be berated, yes.
My grandad wrote a book about his time fighting in WW2 for my and my sister. I did not get the impression that the lesson he wanted us to learn was “fuck up some foreigners”. The jingoistic nature of modern remembrance is a disgrace to the memory of people like him. Bunch of small idiots wearing his generations achievements as their own to push an ideal they’ve never have agreed with.
It’s true we don’t have to go very far back at all. Look at the fall of Tito and the Bosnian war. We may do it by proxy but we do forget. Was talking to my 12 year old on Sunday when walking a dog. I’ve often wondered why we don’t remember wars before ww1 and we started talking about the Boer War. We probably wouldn’t come out of that with the same sense of glory I suppose. We were also talking about peace not just being the absence of war but far far harder than that. It may be I’m losing my mind but I can’t square poignant remembrance with selling arms to Saudi Arabia to bomb Yemen to hell
It’s true we don’t have to go very far back at all. Look at the fall of Tito and the Bosnian war. We may do it by proxy but we do forget. Was talking to my 12 year old on Sunday when walking a dog. I’ve often wondered why we don’t remember wars before ww1 and we started talking about the Boer War. We probably wouldn’t come out of that with the same sense of glory I suppose. We were also talking about peace not just being the absence of war but far far harder than that. It may be I’m losing my mind but I can’t square poignant remembrance with selling arms to Saudi Arabia to bomb Yemen to hell
What’s the matter with you? I’m just saying we forgethere we go
It’s funny how hard it is for us to grasp what peace actually means isn’t it?
We all want to remember the dead and wear a poppy, far fewer want to act towards a world where there’s fewer dead to remember in the future. In which case, what are we remembering for exactly? The fact the idea of actually being peaceful gets such a reaction tells you all you need to know about how many lessons we’ve learned.
Here we go the old our brave soldiers fought for freedom but I’ll decide what you can use that freedom for!
Blabbing. It’s called discussion Grendel. I can no longer square it. Good for you that you can. I admire the double standards I really do.he used it as an argument for Jeremy Corbyn and you started blabbing on about Saudi Arabia its extraordinary
I agree it should be apolitical on this board, as much as anything can be.he used it as an argument for Jeremy Corbyn and you started blabbing on about Saudi Arabia its extraordinary
Blabbing. It’s called discussion Grendel. I can no longer square it. Good for you that you can. I admire the double standards I really do.
Was reading about how the unknown soldier was decided so no one would know who it was and it could be any one of say 600000 people that had died in the war to end all wars. I’ll try and find it it was really interesting!As an aside, the consequences went beyond WW1 itself. Sometimes people suffered for years after and, because they died after the time limit, they weren't memorialised. Here's one example, father of a famous boxer
Lionel Fitzherbert Turpin
It's good that there's redress in the modern age, and the heroes who were forgotten by chance can be remembered, too.
My Great(?) Grandfather was gassed. My Dad doesn't speak much about his family, but remembers going to see him, the struggles he had breathing, years after the event in the 1950s, and how he was bed ridden half the time before dying early himself.Was reading about how the unknown soldier was decided so no one would know who it was and it could be any one of say 600000 people that had died in the war to end all wars. I’ll try and find it it was really interesting!
thanks for this really interesting
The latter ian. Just reading cellist of Sarajevo and just read librarian of auschwitz . Needle returnsShouldn't we learn from the mistakes of history?
Or do we just repeat ad infinitum?
Wasn’t trying to be political sorry nick I agreeThere's enough threads about politics isn't there?
The latter ian. Just reading cellist of Sarajevo and just read librarian of auschwitz . Needle returns
Very powerful. They all are. Friends worked in Mostar after the war and we went for 2 weeks doing some kids work. If it can happen there on our doorstep it can happen anywhere. Sobbed a bit throughoutLibrarian of Auschwitz is next on my list. Any good? Trying to get a trip sorted to the Auschwitz/Birkenau tour.
Very powerful. They all are. Friends worked in Mostar after the war and we went for 2 weeks doing some kids work. If it can happen there on our doorstep it can happen anywhere. Sobbed a bit throughout
I genuinely don’t think I’d cope. My brain couldn’t compartmentalise the experience. Just read in one of the books that in a Serbian nazi camp the guards would compete each day to see who could kill the most prisoners for prizes. What happens to us?I’m desperate to go (sounds awfully weird). Keep going to do a last(ish) minute thing - flights to Krakow etc. But every time we do, something goes wrong with money. £600 on my car this month, bloody hell. But definitely next year.
You are a nasty piece of work. What a stupid comment to make just so you can big up someone who you admit isn't fit to be prime minister.We are spending Armistice Day by berating a potential Prime Minister for wanting to be cautious about going to war or committing genocide for revenge.
We’ve already forgotten.
Librarian of Auschwitz is next on my list. Any good? Trying to get a trip sorted to the Auschwitz/Birkenau tour.
Hmmm, you'll live near my parents' friends then (although they seem to have lost touch!). That's where I would like to go...Forget? Never. This is near where my wife and younger kids live.
An Irishman’s Diary on the Oradour-sur-Glane massacre
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