eastwoodsdustman
Well-Known Member
oh the irony of Trump getting sucked in with fake news.:facepalm:
Some of the stuff you say shows a lack of understanding about multi culturalismNo idea Mart. It's just bizarre that a pretty much identical occurrence happened 24 hours later, but took another 36 hours to reach the news.
I imagine if someone had set themselves on fire outside Broadgate even the Telegraph would be there within minutes whacking out '5 things we know about the flaming bandit' on a beat up old typewriter.
Some of the stuff you say shows a lack of understanding about multi culturalism
It was this statement
Germany, and you can include Sweden and France along with them, may not be 'a complete mess', but they are going down the toilet.
What facts are you referring to about these countries going down the toilet?
Just out of interest... I was in Berlin a couple of weeks ago and it was announced they have the most people in a full time job since the Wende, and I am in Munich now. Munich commuters spend 48 hours a year in rush hour traffic jams - the most in Germany.... reason being that the economy is growing so fast, the amount of people travelling to and from work is too much for the already good infrastructure. I can vouch for the traffic. If those are the problems... Germany is not going down the toilet...most crime figures are going down... it is not a mess - even if Fox and Friends and InfoWars - and therefore the US president - say that it is. Don't believe these clowns, they are trying to frighten you to justify future clampdowns on freedom...
Course no probsAbove reply @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 not Pete.
What does that show chief?
Deaths per month from terrorism since 1970. Show that since 1970 there's been very little change overall and a drop in Western Europe. The figures simply don't stack up with the idea that we are more at threat now than we were in the past.What does that show chief?
So the top graph is all Europe?Deaths per month from terrorism since 1970. Show that since 1970 there's been very little change overall and a drop in Western Europe. The figures simply don't stack up with the idea that we are more at threat now than we were in the past.
What has changed is we live in an era of the internet, social media and 24 hour news so we hear of things in the past we might have missed.
Yep, top is all of Europe, bottom is just Western Europe. The grey one you can just about see in the background of the bottom one is Eastern Europe.So the top graph is all Europe?
I also think uk citizens of a certain age forget the Ira troubles in the 70's
Sorry Mart, I politely disagree with you on this.
I'm not saying the economy isn't doing well, it's safety that is a concern. I don't need to read news be it The Independent or Breitbart to tell you that Europe is much unsafer. I've lived in Sweden, and travel to Germany a lot, not to mention holiday in France often. I don't get scare mongered easily (I would have voted remain), but I genuinely do think things aren't as peaceful and fairytale as is being made out half the time.
I'll be in Berlin in a few weeks, I hope you left me some beer!
Deaths per month from terrorism since 1970. Show that since 1970 there's been very little change overall and a drop in Western Europe. The figures simply don't stack up with the idea that we are more at threat now than we were in the past.
What has changed is we live in an era of the internet, social media and 24 hour news so we hear of things in the past we might have missed.
It seems that Germany isn't 'going down the toilet' after all...what a surprise.
Looks like we disagree on this one.
Why wouldn't Trump have contacts with one of the other major super powers? I see that as a positive thing, not negative. The war-mongering with Russia is solely to justify the vast sums spent on the military industrial complex. If they don't have enemies threatening them, why would they need to spend billions per year on useless fighter jets and aircraft carriers.The media didn't tell us all the bad things about Trump. There is loads coming out now about his team's Russian contacts - some of this relates to the time of his campaign. The FBI is looking a bit suspect at the moment. Some information was obviously suppressed.
Well they couldn't remove Bill Clinton for having oral sex with a woman in the White House. I think Trump is safe.Anyone watch his press conference. Was 'interesting' to say the least!
I can see him not lasting much longer. There's already examination of the constitution being made by the senate to see if he can be removed and he's telling blatant provable lies every day. Not the usual political spin, outright lies.
Well they couldn't remove Bill Clinton for having oral sex with a woman in the White House. I think Trump is safe.
Why wouldn't Trump have contacts with one of the other major super powers? I see that as a positive thing, not negative. The war-mongering with Russia is solely to justify the vast sums spent on the military industrial complex. If they don't have enemies threatening them, why would they need to spend billions per year on useless fighter jets and aircraft carriers.
Was there any proof it was the Russians who hacked the DNC, or are you just joining everyone else right now and blame Russia for everything, in fact im joining its not sisu's fault city are in a mess, its Putin and Russia. wiki leaks have always maintained Russia isn't the leak, wasn't it rumour to a be a staff member of the DNC that conveniently got murdered in DC and should we not be more interested in what was in the leaks not that they got hacked, if they left themselves open to be hacked that's their fault.
And on the BAN, it wasn't a Muslim ban if you was Christian from these countries you was banned, the top 5 highest populations of Muslims countries were not on the banned list. and it was a 3 month temporary ban while they looked at vetting, similar to Obama's 6 month ban of Iranian nations in 2011, and the list trump worked off was also from the Obama administration as countries most likely to harbour terrorists. I suppose it doesn't help that the USA has been aiding and dropping 26,000 bombs per year under the Obama administration ( and he got a Nobel peace prize it that time).
nope, and neither does the DNC and media saying it was Russia make it them, I would wait until there is proof before pointing fingers.
I didn't say the ban would make America safe, but these were his policies that got him elected and he is going though with them, if he is wrong he will be booted out in 4 years time. The 3 month ban was to analyse the current heavy vetting to make sure it was good enough, after this the point was to lift the ban. The reason was ban was put in by Obama in 2011 was because they foiled a plot of Iranian nationals in the USA so the vetting wasn't good enough at the time, surly trump being president should be able to have time to look at this just like Obama did in 2011?
im not sure what trump can do about gun control as its in the constitution to own a gun, I don't agree with gun ownership, but no one in the history of the united sates has ever changed this and doubt it ever will in the near future, democrat or especially republican.
I get the feeling you don't like trump then........ but its called democracy and he was voted by the American people so he is the president and everyone has to accept that. but I think you are kidding yourself if you think Clinton was going to be any better, Obama was not the saint he is made out to be.
It seems that Germany isn't 'going down the toilet' after all...what a surprise.
That was put out about a month or two ago.
its called democracy and he was voted by the American people so he is the president and everyone has to accept that.
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