The trust gets a slagging on here from the main Wasps protagonists so maybe a non starter.
Why not a separate / alternative group?
And the answer from Wasps will be "Its up to Sisu to drop the legal action first".They are in no rush as they have a business plan.I'm sorry Nick, but the onus in on Sisu to sort this out for the benefit of the club. For what I can see there is no evidence that they intend to move an anything (see FOI thread)
Does it?
Just what is needed, another random fans group with a name and made up job titles.
Couldn't see why the Trust would be against pressuring Wasps to get a good deal at the Ricoh for CCFC though, could you?
As I have said all along, why should any side in it all be able to sit comfy?
So they are at least asked "Why did you start the discussions knowing about them?" or "how does the legal action actually effect you?"
Instead, as soon as a bit of pressure comes their way they just say SISU, and it all goes away.
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Iam not the problem with the Trust, but I am sure you would be at your SISU blame diverting best in blaming the trust if it got nowhere.
As you make the most anti wasps noise lets see you lot put your convictions where your keyboard is.
A protest outside the Ricoh on a Wasps match day would not go unnoticed.
If you aren't anti wasps then by definition you support franchising in sport and would have no objection if ccfc moved 90 miles away.
Do you not have a problem if that happened then? Extraordinary.
I remember spending at least 2 hours writing an email to somebody at the trust with ideas for stuff against CCFC / Wasps. Whether it would work, I have no idea, it wouldn't get SISU out but just mainly aimed at a bit of fan unity.
As has been said over and over, if the general consensus was either pro CCFC or anti everybody then there would be no disagreements would there?
If SISU dropped that second JR taking Wasps out the legal landscape they would be on the spot with no excuse not to negotiate, the tide would turn pretty quick with people asking questions. The CT like all the press are whores and would turn on a sixpence.
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What is the harm in asking why they started negotiations? Rather than just believing straight off that's the reason.
The council have already added another thing in aside from dropping the legals as well, nobody really questioned that much.
Yep. RFC is a figment of his own imagination.Everyone's against Sisu. The only person who isn't is RFC, a pretend character.
are you not even a little bit curious as to why wasps said the legals are nothing to do with them and they wouldn't stop them talking to CCFC then changed their position to they couldn't negotiate while legals are going on?If SISU dropped that second JR taking Wasps out the legal landscape they would be on the spot with no excuse not to negotiate, the tide would turn pretty quick with people asking questions. The CT like all the press are whores and would turn on a sixpence.
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The trust gets a slagging on here from the main Wasps protagonists so maybe a non starter.
Why not a separate / alternative group?
are you not even a little bit curious as to why wasps said the legals are nothing to do with them and they wouldn't stop them talking to CCFC then changed their position to they couldn't negotiate while legals are going on?
Les Reid knows 'many fans' who will back an initiative like this.
What a divisive comment.Why don`t Nick and the other Wasps haters on here start protesting against Wasps like we do SISU ?
Its all well and good repeating yourself`s on an internet forum about why won't Wasps negotiate but if you got out there like the "other side" do and start making noise you might get somewhere. Wasps are very worried about bad PR. I would jump on any bandwagon to save the club.
Well yes but I understand their position. Time and time again I say take away this barrier.
It is in the interest of the clubs future for SISU to drop the JR2. Not SISUs interests though, that is why we are staring at the abyss
What a divisive comment.
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To be fair I would back it so long as the message is right. i.e.about securing the academy and securing our future at the Ricoh beyond the end of next season. If it's Buzz of Franchise London Rugby Club back to where you came from (Wycombe) then forget it.
To be fair I would back it so long as the message is right. i.e.about securing the academy and securing our future at the Ricoh beyond the end of next season. If it's Buzz of Franchise London Rugby Club back to where you came from (Wycombe) then forget it.
o one is doing that regarding Wasps and certainly no one from on here.
tbf, what's wrong with a 'sod off back to London' message?
I'd say the pragmatic thing *I* would be doing as a fan is compromising so as not to push that as the message, but there's nothing wrong with that as a message per se.
The only place Wasps will go if they leave the Ricoh is to the wall.
It's even more futile than asking SISU to put the club up for sale and SISU putting the club up for sale is most likely going to happen at some point. The only place Wasps will go if they leave the Ricoh is to the wall.
It's a fair question. People like LAST and BHSB moan about SISU a lot on here but then to be fair to them they also go out and help organise things, attend meetings, put sky blue ribbons up everywhere etc. etc. They don't sit behind a keyboard moaning about it on a faceless forum (like me). They get on the front line and walk the walk. No one is doing that regarding Wasps and certainly no one from on here. Some of who constantly point the finger at our fan base saying that they cant believe that how passive our fan base is regarding Wasps, if this had happened in Leeds every window at the council house would have been put in, we welcomed them with open arm's etc etc. When the truth is they do/haven't done anymore than the majority of us.
Where have I said I am pro Wasps? I took great offence to CCFC playing at Sixfields oddly you seemed OK with that bit of franchising, anyway that was 2013 I am interested in now.
I blame the clubs situation on SISU, that is my opinion and I have protested in various forms since 2013, you share a different veiw on the clubs demise, if you are so anti Wasps get out there like I have.
Your opening post screams it out loud and clear. A nice little sarky dig at Nick but not a jot about the damage inflicted by Wasps coming to Coventry and the untold damage of the next 248 years. Yep SISU have been shit but the longer term damage will be down to Wasps.
I know you will ignore it so don't embarrass yourself by trying to justify it.
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