Andy Goode (2 Viewers)

Nick · Jul 26, 2020

Good to see this massive city fan is out in force with some amazing replies like "you are wrong" to people who say anything about Wasps.

Having a look at his track record he doesn't seem to have got many things right.

Financial turmoil and discontent at Wasps, pull the other one – Andy Goode

If you believe a certain newspaper this week, Wasps are in “financial turmoil” and there could be an “exodus” of their leading stars but nothing could be further from the truth.

www.rugbypass.com

April 2018

If you believe a certain newspaper this week, Wasps are in “financial turmoil” and there could be an “exodus” of their leading stars but nothing could be further from the truth.

There have been unforeseen delays with the training ground that aren’t ideal because they had a site earmarked and there were issues with the full planning consent for what they wanted to do but new locations have been found and I understand that’s very close to being signed off.

As for financial turmoil, I don’t think so. The rugby is only a small part of the business at Wasps nowadays and it’s an important part but the hotel and the casino and everything else that goes with it are providing very healthy incomes for the club.

By the time the summer’s here and I’m sat on a beach with a beer in my hand, the accounts will have been published, more information will be available regarding the training ground and the article in question will look a bit daft then. Who knows…Wasps might even be Premiership champions as well!

May 2018

PwC resigned as registered auditors for Wasps in May 2018, saying it was doing so due to the “seriousness of the events” regarding the 2016/17 accounts.

PwC said following the completion of its audit, it did not consider it appropriate to continue in its role.

PwC had also cast doubt on the future of the club after its accounts revealed it was relying on shareholder cash to stay afloat.

Then there's this

You would think for somebody employed by Wasps in a commercial role he would actually have half a clue, or maybe he is just spouting shit for them and playing on being "a massive city fan".

Desperate times for the people like him who used to have everybody believing every word.

Reminds me of this bloke going on TV bullshitting

'Financially Wasps are in great shape' - Lawrence Dallaglio

England World Cup winner believes jealously maybe behind rumours

www.coventrytelegraph.net

The former Black and Golds' captain appeared on The Rugby Pod, co-presented by another former Wasp Andy Goode, and addressed former Saracens and Leicester Tigers' lock Jim Hamilton's question regarding issues off the pitch.

Shock, some Wasps staff on a podcast bullshitting people.

Skybluemichael · Jul 26, 2020

He played professional rugby for years, clearly too many knocks to the head

Tommo1993 · Jul 26, 2020

He’s trying to be impartial but he’s so disastrously shit at it.

Terry Gibson's perm · Jul 26, 2020

Tommo1993 said:
He’s trying to be impartial but he’s so disastrously shit at it.

He’s trying to look impartial

Nick · Jul 26, 2020

People like that have been so used to shouting "it's all sisu" while whichever organisation they are with fucks the club over as well.

Saddlebrains · Jul 26, 2020

Looks like a sat on cauliflower fuck him

superskyblue · Jul 26, 2020

He's absolutely clueless. He's trying to carve a niche in the media as some sort of outspoken right-wing rugby pundit. He'll say anything for controversy and to increase his Twitter reach. His rugby podcast partner Jim Hamilton (also from Coventry) has called him the Katie Hopkins of Rugby.

Nick · Jul 26, 2020

He genuinely doesn't know that wasps aren't being sued.

Terry_dactyl · Jul 26, 2020

superskyblue said:
He's absolutely clueless. He's trying to carve a niche in the media as some sort of outspoken right-wing rugby pundit. He'll say anything for controversy and to increase his Twitter reach. His rugby podcast partner Jim Hamilton (also from Coventry) has called him the Katie Hopkins of Rugby.

I can’t say I’d ever heard of him. He certainly appears to be an arsehole. Preaches right - wing stuff does he?

superskyblue · Jul 26, 2020

Terry_dactyl said:
I can’t say I’d ever heard of him. He certainly appears to be an arsehole. Preaches right - wing stuff does he?

Have seen him tweeting in support of Trump before. Say no more.

cc84cov · Jul 26, 2020

The guys a clown

mark82 · Jul 26, 2020

Maybe point out he's standing up for the Labour council then.

Moff · Jul 26, 2020

He is Rugby’s very own Jon Gaunt.

One eyed viewpoint, and pretty clueless when it comes to the issues between CCFC and the Wasps.

Nick · Jul 26, 2020

Evo1883 · Jul 26, 2020

Isn't he employed by wasps on match day? So no shock or impartiality

Nick · Jul 26, 2020

Evo1883 said:
Isn't he employed by wasps on match day? So no shock or impartiality

He sure is.

Pretty much paid to bullshit fans and keep them loving wasps.

Evo1883 · Jul 26, 2020

Nick said:
He sure is.

Pretty much paid to bullshit fans and keep them loving wasps.

He's not a Ccfc fan, he's from Coventry yea, but fan... No

Nick · Jul 27, 2020

Can only assume he is intentionally misleading.

Nick · Jul 27, 2020

Nick · Jul 27, 2020

jordan210 · Jul 27, 2020

Whats the bet his twitter goes to private or stops replying in the coming day

Nick · Jul 27, 2020

jordan210 said:
Whats the bet his twitter goes to private or stops replying in the coming day

That is what usually happens.

It's interesting at how people start flapping when a little bit of pressure is applied, he was that desperate to say "it was all CCFC" that he slipped up. Same as what Duggins kept doing every time.

Imagine if pressure was applied years ago.

shmmeee · Jul 27, 2020

Sorry. Don’t get this. People seem to have got the wrong end of the stick IMO.

He’s saying what Wasps have been saying which is any attempts to reverse the Ricoh sale (not just the state aid, they specifically say they’ll put the state aid complaint aside) are the issue.

Knowl going on about “it can’t be dropped” and others talking about “it’s not legal action” have missed the point entirely.

The sticking point is a wide ranging indemnity basically ensuring Wasps can stay at the Ricoh come what may from what I can tell. There’s never been any idea other than from fans assumptions that it’s only the state aid case that’s the problem. The club have been very careful to give that impression but if you read what they say they aren’t saying that either.

Just like everyone on here got excited about “the third party” when it was obvious it wasn’t just Wasps last year it was any action, against anyone, in the future, that would lead to the reverse of the sale.

Why is this so hard to grasp?

SeaSeeEffCee · Jul 27, 2020

How many games do you reckon he's been to in the last 10 years?

jordan210 · Jul 27, 2020

I like that he is still going. cant have much on today

Nick · Jul 27, 2020

shmmeee said:
Sorry. Don’t get this. People seem to have got the wrong end of the stick IMO.

He’s saying what Wasps have been saying which is any attempts to reverse the Ricoh sale (not just the state aid, they specifically say they’ll put the state aid complaint aside) are the issue.

Knowl going on about “it can’t be dropped” and others talking about “it’s not legal action” have missed the point entirely.

The sticking point is a wide ranging indemnity basically ensuring Wasps can stay at the Ricoh come what may from what I can tell. There’s never been any idea other than from fans assumptions that it’s only the state aid case that’s the problem. The club have been very careful to give that impression but if you read what they say they aren’t saying that either.

Just like everyone on here got excited about “the third party” when it was obvious it wasn’t just Wasps last year it was any action, against anyone, in the future, that would lead to the reverse of the sale.

Why is this so hard to grasp?

He is saying Wasps were being sued. They aren't.

He said Wasps wanted a deal with CCFC, he then said they didn't because of the legal and justifying it.

It isn't missing the point at all, he's having a shocker and contradicting things he said himself. People are only going off his own comments which keep changing the more people question him.

shmmeee · Jul 27, 2020

Nick said:
He is saying Wasps were being sued. They aren't.

He said Wasps wanted a deal with CCFC, he then said they didn't because of the legal and justifying it.

It isn't missing the point at all, he's having a shocker and contradicting things he said himself. People are only going off his own comments which keep changing the more people question him.

But the responses you’ve posted are inaccurate. I understand what he’s saying, and it’s consistent with the info we have from all parties. The bloke isn’t a lawyer so wouldn’t expect him to get the exact terms right but the general thrust of his argument is correct and people like Knowl are the ones spouting nonsense.

cc84cov · Jul 27, 2020

Goode your making yourself look a thick fool kid

shmmeee · Jul 27, 2020

Threads like this genuinely make me worry for my sanity.

Nick · Jul 27, 2020

shmmeee said:
But the responses you’ve posted are inaccurate. I understand what he’s saying, and it’s consistent with the info we have from all parties. The bloke isn’t a lawyer so wouldn’t expect him to get the exact terms right but the general thrust of his argument is correct and people like Knowl are the ones spouting nonsense.

The bloke works for wasps in a commercial capacity, we would expect Tynan Scope to have half a clue wouldn't we?

Which part of his argument is correct as he has 2 different aspects that contradict?

Nobody is suing Wasps, it is as simple as that.

Please point out what I have said that is inaccurate?

Nick · Jul 27, 2020

shmmeee said:
Threads like this genuinely make me worry for my sanity.

It is pretty clear, when you try your best to go against things by looking for things it will make you worry.

joemercersaces · Jul 27, 2020

Have I missed it before, or is this a new suggestion, ie that the indemnity is just to allow Wasps to stay at the Ricoh, and not to compensate them financially for any losses that result from an adverse EU finding. Why would SISU agree to either when their argument has been consistently that they were shafted by the Council in order that the Council could do Wasps a huge financial favour?

cc84cov · Jul 27, 2020

Wasps still no reply after Dave addresses their claim ?

shmmeee · Jul 27, 2020

Nick said:
The bloke works for wasps in a commercial capacity, we would expect Tynan Scope to have half a clue wouldn't we?

Which part of his argument is correct as he has 2 different aspects that contradict?

Nobody is suing Wasps, it is as simple as that.

Please point out what I have said that is inaccurate?

This is what I mean about not using the right legal terms. No one is suing wasps right now but the point of the state aid claim is to open up the chance to sue in future.

Put aside pedantry about terms for a minute, the overarching issue here is Sisu want to try and reverse the sale of the lease to Wasps and Wasps don’t want that, can we agree on that?

Whether that is done by suing Wasps directly, complaining about the council, or some other route, is irrelevant. It’s the general principle. You can’t just say “I won’t do anything against Wasps” and leave a massive loophole where you can achieve the same thing by attacking someone else. That’s the issue. The club don’t want to relinquish those rights and Wasps do.

So when you say “aha! It’s not a legal process iamverysmart!” You’re missing the point entirely. When you say “aha!The state aid complaint can’t be withdrawn iamverysmart!” You’re missing the point entirely.

What Wasps are asking for (and again I should make it clear I’m not making a value judgement about that request just tying to get the facts clear) is a wide ranging promise that Sisu won’t try anything, legal or not, directly against Wasps or not, that would result in the Ricoh sale being reversed. Then Wasps can go to lenders and say “That whole thing is cool guys, I’m not a risk”.

Ive got to say, this whole conversation would go a lot smoother if you could stop trying to be clever and snarky and just state clearly what you think the situation is and your reasoning for it.

Hadji's_Goatee · Jul 27, 2020

shmmeee said:
But the responses you’ve posted are inaccurate. I understand what he’s saying, and it’s consistent with the info we have from all parties. The bloke isn’t a lawyer so wouldn’t expect him to get the exact terms right but the general thrust of his argument is correct and people like Knowl are the ones spouting nonsense.

Shmmeee propaganda strikes again – yawn

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