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AJ v Usyk (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter bringbackrattles
  • Start date Aug 17, 2022
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Greggs

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  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #141
Nick said:
Think his road man shone through.

Lobbing those belts on the floor?
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He probably found out they were made by a 'whitey'.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #142
What I don't get is his corner were telling him he wins every round, then the people around him just bullshitting him.
 
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LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #143
Quick couple of points.

Joshua is clearly world level but nowhere near world class.

He performed better last night but still lost to a Cruiserweight. Again.

His actions after the fight were absolutely cringeworthy and he was an embarrassment.

No fucking way was it a split decision.

I’m happy to have any size bet with Fatso if he wants to back Joshua if him and Fury fight.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #144
There's no way that Joshua beats Fury; it's laughable.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #145
Highlights here from DAZN.

 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #146
Morning gentlemen , yea I think when I say world level I mean world class .. for me he's just not .. this just about sums AJ up these days
 

bringbackrattles

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #147
Joshua should have handled it better than he did after the fight, it was embarrassing. He gave it his best shot in the fight, but came up short which isn't embarrassing.
Usyk is a class act in and out of the ring and a deserved winner on the night.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #148
He also talked about not being a 12 round boxer and says he cant move well because he's 18 stone
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #149
He made himself look like an arrogant tosser.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #150
Sick Boy said:
He made himself look like an arrogant tosser.
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Isn't there some sort of unwritten respect thing about touching other boxers belts too?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #151
fatso said:
You just don't understand boxing mate.

Don't be late for your paper round
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to be fair if you think joshua would beat fury then i'm not sure what you understand
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #152
LastGarrison said:
Quick couple of points.

Joshua is clearly world level but nowhere near world class.

He performed better last night but still lost to a Cruiserweight. Again.

His actions after the fight were absolutely cringeworthy and he was an embarrassment.

No fucking way was it a split decision.

I’m happy to have any size bet with Fatso if he wants to back Joshua if him and Fury fight.
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Agree that the afters were cringeworthy, heat of the moment stuff and he’ll regret it Im sure.

Usyk might be an ex cruiserweight, so was Holyfield, but he’s also a P4P top three. Usyk would be just a ‘cruiserweight’ to Fury, who’s an absolute beast and would come in 3-4 stone heavier than Usyk which would be a huge advantage

I looked at some stats earlier, Usyk threw almost 100 punches in round 10….that is ridiculous, especially as Joshua had him in trouble in round 9. What a fighter. There’s levels in sport, Usyk is elite, and no shame in losing to him at all.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #153
Nick said:
What I don't get is his corner were telling him he wins every round, then the people around him just bullshitting him.
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I mean, if there were people on this thread (and judges!) who thought it was any way close then they probably actually believed it.
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #154
CCFCSteve said:
Agree that the afters were cringeworthy, heat of the moment stuff and he’ll regret it Im sure.

Usyk might be an ex cruiserweight, so was Holyfield, but he’s also a P4P top three. Usyk would be just a ‘cruiserweight’ to Fury, who’s an absolute beast and would come in 3-4 stone heavier than Usyk which would be a huge advantage

I looked at some stats earlier, Usyk threw almost 100 punches in round 10….that is ridiculous, especially as Joshua had him in trouble in round 9. What a fighter. There’s levels in sport, Usyk is elite, and no shame in losing to him at all.
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Although I appreciate what you’re saying any ‘world class’ heavyweight should not be losing to a Cruiserweight no matter how god they are and the old adage of ‘A good big ‘un beats a good little ‘un’ has never been more true.

He was just a Cruiserweight to Joshua but unfortunately Joshua is not technically a good enough boxer to cope with him and got, in my opinion, comprehensively beat in both fights.

I am in no way downplaying Usyk who is absolutely world class and will go down as an all time great BUT he doesn’t beat Fury as Fury is ‘A good big ‘un’.

I am slightly biased as I have never rated Joshua and didn’t buy into the hype but last night was an embarrassment and I honestly don’t know where he goes from here.
 

bringbackrattles

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #155
LastGarrison said:
Although I appreciate what you’re saying any ‘world class’ heavyweight should not be losing to a Cruiserweight no matter how god they are and the old adage of ‘A good big ‘un beats a good little ‘un’ has never been more true.

He was just a Cruiserweight to Joshua but unfortunately Joshua is not technically a good enough boxer to cope with him and got, in my opinion, comprehensively beat in both fights.

I am in no way downplaying Usyk who is absolutely world class and will go down as an all time great BUT he doesn’t beat Fury as Fury is ‘A good big ‘un’.

I am slightly biased as I have never rated Joshua and didn’t buy into the hype but last night was an embarrassment and I honestly don’t know where he goes from here.
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Like you I too rate Usyk who is a smart and clever boxer, but could he beat Fury ?
If Usyk had a powerful punch at the end of his boxing skills maybe, but Fury would just jab away and he is a giant and is skilful too for such a big unit. So as much as I respect the Ukrainian it would be a massive upset if he beat Fury.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #156
LastGarrison said:
Although I appreciate what you’re saying any ‘world class’ heavyweight should not be losing to a Cruiserweight no matter how god they are and the old adage of ‘A good big ‘un beats a good little ‘un’ has never been more true.

He was just a Cruiserweight to Joshua but unfortunately Joshua is not technically a good enough boxer to cope with him and got, in my opinion, comprehensively beat in both fights.

I am in no way downplaying Usyk who is absolutely world class and will go down as an all time great BUT he doesn’t beat Fury as Fury is ‘A good big ‘un’.

I am slightly biased as I have never rated Joshua and didn’t buy into the hype but last night was an embarrassment and I honestly don’t know where he goes from here.
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To be fair evander holyfield showed that a top cruiserweight can step up but I get your point
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #157
Evo1883 said:
Morning gentlemen , yea I think when I say world level I mean world class .. for me he's just not .. this just about sums AJ up these days View attachment 25936
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He didn't say that or at least it wasn't meant like that 100%, AJ was very angry at himself that he had lost and was probably concussed, he tried to pay respect to Usyk in his own way but in his emotional state it was just a bit of a mess.


The conversation went a bit like this.

Usyk: you're very strong
AJ: I don't care about strong, I have to have skills. Skills win boxing, you're not strong how did you beat me? How?
AJ answering his own question: Because you're skilled, I had character and determination

That's not AJ saying Usyk had no skill.
 
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Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2022
  • #158
CCFCSteve said:
Agree that the afters were cringeworthy, heat of the moment stuff and he’ll regret it Im sure.

Usyk might be an ex cruiserweight, so was Holyfield, but he’s also a P4P top three. Usyk would be just a ‘cruiserweight’ to Fury, who’s an absolute beast and would come in 3-4 stone heavier than Usyk which would be a huge advantage

I looked at some stats earlier, Usyk threw almost 100 punches in round 10….that is ridiculous, especially as Joshua had him in trouble in round 9. What a fighter. There’s levels in sport, Usyk is elite, and no shame in losing to him at all.
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Fury Uysk would be a terrible match up
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2022
  • #159
Evo1883 said:
To be fair evander holyfield showed that a top cruiserweight can step up but I get your point
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Exception rather than the rule I’d say.
 
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Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2022
  • #160
LastGarrison said:
Although I appreciate what you’re saying any ‘world class’ heavyweight should not be losing to a Cruiserweight no matter how god they are and the old adage of ‘A good big ‘un beats a good little ‘un’ has never been more true.

He was just a Cruiserweight to Joshua but unfortunately Joshua is not technically a good enough boxer to cope with him and got, in my opinion, comprehensively beat in both fights.

I am in no way downplaying Usyk who is absolutely world class and will go down as an all time great BUT he doesn’t beat Fury as Fury is ‘A good big ‘un’.

I am slightly biased as I have never rated Joshua and didn’t buy into the hype but last night was an embarrassment and I honestly don’t know where he goes from here.
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Guest appearances in the next season of Top Boy on Netflix.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 22, 2022
  • #161
Greggs said:
Guest appearances in the next season of Top Boy on Netflix.
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Isn't he from Watford?

Up next, Big Ken from Styvechale who was close to jail for White Collar Crime spends a day in the endz on road.
 
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SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2022
  • #162
Fury is correct though in what he said he’d beat them both on the same night
 

stay_up_skyblues

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  • Sep 13, 2022
  • #163

Anthony Joshua 'accepts Tyson Fury's terms' for all-British December fight

Anthony Joshua has accepted WBC champion Tyson Fury's terms for an all-British heavyweight fight in December and is awaiting a response, his management company has said.
www.bbc.co.uk

Seems to be gaining some traction this…
 
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