AFC - a different approach (1 Viewer)

MichaelCCFC · Dec 6, 2013

I remain completely split about the whole afc idea but I wonder if there is another way of looking at it.

Instead of setting up a new team as an alternative to ccfc, should we set up a new team as a part of the protest about what is happening to CCFC? The new team would play in sky blue and its badge would be a sky blue ribbon. For those who don't want to go to sixfields it gives them a team to watch till we finally get CCFC back. As for team name, it would need to reflect the protest idea eg 'Coventry in Coventry' 'Coventry ribboners' etc

What to people who are interested in the afc idea think?

bigfatronssba · Dec 6, 2013

Presumably if the club doesn't come back it could assume its place?

Nick · Dec 6, 2013

Then if the team come back the new team gets dropped like a stone?

Going to watch CCFC is a bit different to watching pub football. If I just wanted to watch a different game I'd walk over a park.

bigfatronssba · Dec 6, 2013

Nick said:
Then if the team come back the new team gets dropped like a stone?

Going to watch CCFC is a bit different to watching pub football. If I just wanted to watch a different game I'd walk over a park.

Can I just ask, is there any form of protest you support?

Nick · Dec 6, 2013

bigfatronssba said:
Can I just ask, is there any form of protest you support?

Yes, I'd be up for most dramatic protests. Things like filling the ground and walking out that would get attention.

MichaelCCFC · Dec 6, 2013

bigfatronssba said:
Presumably if the club doesn't come back it could assume its place?

The future could hold many scenarios and that's one - what's important for now is seeing if there is any support for this kind of approach.

Nick · Dec 6, 2013

Could the CCFC fans team not do the job rather than starting a new one? Get thousands watching them every week, that would send a message!

Noggin · Dec 6, 2013

Nick said:
Yes, I'd be up for most dramatic protests. Things like filling the ground and walking out that would get attention.

you support the give 100 thousand pounds to the people you are protesting about in order to show them and the world how angry you are with them despite the fact they and the world already know how angry you are and don't care protest.

covmark · Dec 6, 2013

There's already plenty of teams in Coventry, go and watch one of them.

bigfatronssba · Dec 6, 2013

Well I'm in support of the idea Michael.

Seems a happy compromise, its not a phoenix club YET, just a protest. But it could be a phoenix club if the need calls for it.

It would ensure that if the club didn't come back all would be in place to take up where it left off. Also no one can accuse those that watch as abandoning the current CCFC.

wingy · Dec 6, 2013

bigfatronssba said:
Well I'm in support of the idea Michael.

Seems a happy compromise, its not a phoenix club YET, just a protest. But it could be a phoenix club if the need calls for it.

It would ensure that if the club didn't come back all would be in place to take up where it left off. Also no one can accuse those that watch as abandoning the current CCFC.

I think Its fair to say the Club has abandoned us.

letsallsingtogether · Dec 6, 2013

Sisu would love that.

They don'y care if you stay and watch the team. They are only interested in one thing Money.
Don't care about the fans.
don't care about Coventry.
Don't care about CCFC

So why would you give them the pleasure.

Nick if you want to go to Sixfields without feeling guilty just go, no one is stopping you. You don't need our bl;essing

Nick said:
Yes, I'd be up for most dramatic protests. Things like filling the ground and walking out that would get attention.

letsallsingtogether · Dec 6, 2013

Yes there are Except the most important one.

covmark said:
There's already plenty of teams in Coventry, go and watch one of them.

RFC · Dec 6, 2013

Nick said:
Yes, I'd be up for most dramatic protests. Things like filling the ground and walking out that would get attention.

At last, some very common sense!
Totally agree Nick. PUSB!

Gary.j · Dec 6, 2013

MichaelCCFC said:
I remain completely split about the whole afc idea but I wonder if there is another way of looking at it.

Instead of setting up a new team as an alternative to ccfc, should we set up a new team as a part of the protest about what is happening to CCFC? The new team would play in sky blue and its badge would be a sky blue ribbon. For those who don't want to go to sixfields it gives them a team to watch till we finally get CCFC back. As for team name, it would need to reflect the protest idea eg 'Coventry in Coventry' 'Coventry ribboners' etc

What to people who are interested in the afc idea think?

This can't be done as a threat or a protest. If we go this route we have to comit to it and stick with it, and accept that the current board's entity may wither/die/rebrand.

The new regime can't just be disbanded if the old board try to come back to Coventry, we can't just hand back control. If we set up a new board, we run with it, let the old entity go, and accept the consequences. If we recognise and embrace the new board as CCFC, why would we want to welcome back the board we removed? And why wouldn't we want to be in control of our own destiny? Why wouldn't we want an open and transparent organisation, with an elected board, answerable to us?

This is not really about setting up a new club as an alternative, this is about regime change!

bigfatronssba · Dec 6, 2013

RFC said:
At last, some very common sense!
Totally agree Nick. PUSB!

You would walk out and miss seeing the rest of the game?

What about "Steven and the boys"?

Spionkop · Dec 6, 2013

Good points made by Michael CCFC and Gary J.
Gary that issue isn't impossible to get around with a bit of negotiation.
Though negotiating with Sisu would be like a bag of ferrets in a sack. Think we'd all agree on that.
But as a STRATEGY for forcing the issue it has advantages.
Like Michael says - I'm divided on the idea too, but with each passing month it gets more miserable.
90% + of the fans won't be going to Sixfields. Thousands of people love their club. A crying shame.
We've got to be masters of our own fate. We're letting Sisu get away with it at the minute.

covmark · Dec 6, 2013

letsallsingtogether said:
Yes there are Except the most important one.

for once I agree with you

stupot07 · Dec 6, 2013

MichaelCCFC said:
I remain completely split about the whole afc idea but I wonder if there is another way of looking at it.

Instead of setting up a new team as an alternative to ccfc, should we set up a new team as a part of the protest about what is happening to CCFC? The new team would play in sky blue and its badge would be a sky blue ribbon. For those who don't want to go to sixfields it gives them a team to watch till we finally get CCFC back. As for team name, it would need to reflect the protest idea eg 'Coventry in Coventry' 'Coventry ribboners' etc

What to people who are interested in the afc idea think?

To be honest Michael, I don't see the difference between your suggestion and the other AFC idea, other than the name and badge.

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Deleted member 5849 · Dec 6, 2013

Why not just agree to all go and watch Sphinx?

Plus they'll still be about if our club comes back, so would probably welcome the leg up of a few more fans.

wingy · Dec 6, 2013

Deleted member 5849 said:
Why not just agree to all go and watch Sphinx?

Plus they'll still be about if our club comes back, so would probably welcome the leg up of a few more fans.

Possibly to do with showing we're not waiting Interminably for when the Owners Decide to bring us back somewhere close to here .

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 6, 2013

wingy said:
Possibly to do with showing we're not waiting Interminably for when the Owners Decide to bring us back somewhere close to here .

...which can be done by buggering off to watch Sphinx.

wingy · Dec 6, 2013

Deleted member 5849 said:
...which can be done by buggering off to watch Sphinx.

That does't change the Dynamic In SISU's eyes ,not that this necessarily would either.

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 6, 2013

wingy said:
That does't change the Dynamic In SISU's eyes ,not that this necessarily would either.

Doesn't change the dynamic if it's'a club set up until you come back' either, that *is* Sphinx, except Sphinx is already there, to save the effort of setting it up and knocking it down.

It's another half-arsed attempt that would end up saying nothing, and as a result have zero impact. Do it properly or not at all, and if not at all then come up with some things that allow a pro-active focus and attendance of a number of people.

Skyblueweeman · Dec 6, 2013

Nick said:
Yes, I'd be up for most dramatic protests. Things like filling the ground and walking out that would get attention.

Love that idea Nick. Now that WOULD get a lot of publicity....

WM

Skyblueweeman · Dec 6, 2013

wingy said:
I think Its fair to say the Club has abandoned us.

But SP and the team haven't.....

James Smith · Dec 6, 2013

Nick said:
Could the CCFC fans team not do the job rather than starting a new one? Get thousands watching them every week, that would send a message!

Sounds like a reasonable idea to me.

James Smith · Dec 6, 2013

Deleted member 5849 said:
Why not just agree to all go and watch Sphinx?

Plus they'll still be about if our club comes back, so would probably welcome the leg up of a few more fans.

Also not a bad idea for when we're playing 'home' games.

WillieStanley · Dec 6, 2013

What happened to Coventry United? I thought they were the protest club?

bigfatronssba · Dec 6, 2013

Skyblueweeman said:
But SP and the team haven't.....

How many of the current team and management do you expect will still be here by the time Fishers shed is built?

bigfatronssba · Dec 6, 2013

WillieStanley said:
What happened to Coventry United? I thought they were the protest club?

They play in red, are called United, and seem to have no connection to the current CCFC.

skybluefred · Dec 6, 2013

bigfatronssba said:
How many of the current team and management do you expect will still be here by the time Fishers shed is built?

How many of we the fans will be alive 100 years from now,and I doubt fishers new ground will be built by then.

Grendel · Dec 6, 2013

WillieStanley said:
What happened to Coventry United? I thought they were the protest club?

It didn't work out. By next year we will have 5 new Pheonix clubs one after the other as they all fail. The real club attracted gates of 5,000 against non league opposition that would be infinately superior to midland combination dross.

Frankly the only people interested are on here. They should find out how it's done set a club up and stop boring everyone else with it.

Florence1898 · Dec 6, 2013

That's a very bright response, perhaps we should set of Coventry City FC in Northampton, convert the locals to Coventry fans, then ask them to go to the Club Shop in Coventry, then if they don't go ask the Lawyers to send them letters, then if they refuse batter them in the courts, what a wonderful plan

Grendel · Dec 6, 2013

Florence1898 said:
That's a very bright response, perhaps we should set of Coventry City FC in Northampton, convert the locals to Coventry fans, then ask them to go to the Club Shop in Coventry, then if they don't go ask the Lawyers to send them letters, then if they refuse batter them in the courts, what a wonderful plan

As I say join with others who want to set a club up, ask how the Manchester breakaway club was formed and get on with it.

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