Deflecting again. You and your people are not willing to condemn Trump or the Nazis outright without any ifs and buts ( excuses and deflections ). Even the republicans look like they have had enough. Trump is obviously not capable of being a president- he just cannot contain his impulses. Any views from his mate Farage lately?
Butlers and man servants isn't it?I have condemned the nazis. Unlike you I'm not obsessed with a bunch of lunatics from the Deep South who pose zero threat to anyone here.
I don't take them or trump seriously. I can't take you seriously. I certainly can't take the op seriously after his "baby boomer" tantrum.
Who are my people out of interest?
Errm, I don't think that is correct now is it.
Hasn't he just been saying that the Jews helped form a small part of Hitler's strategy back in the 1930's
Not the same thing is it. I haven't read up on it entirely, but I am pretty certain Livingstone is not a supporter of Hitler or his ideology.
I have condemned the nazis. Unlike you I'm not obsessed with a bunch of lunatics from the Deep South who pose zero threat to anyone here.
I don't take them or trump seriously. I can't take you seriously. I certainly can't take the op seriously after his "baby boomer" tantrum.
Who are my people out of interest?
So that makes him a Nazi sympathiser? And yes, it was an odd reference.I was being marginally flippant however your google search clearly needs a refresh.
His biggest controversy is that he said Hitler was a supporter of Zionism and assisted in Jews being repatriated to their homelands. So yes he has supported him
Oh and also he once famously (or infamously) told a Jewish reporter he reminded him of a Nazi concentration camp guard.
What an odd reference.
So that makes him a Nazi sympathiser? And yes, it was an odd reference.
I don't see how him saying what he said supports Hitler or Nazism.
Wrong again - you just make things up.
And saying "the alt left are just as bad" isn't condemning Nazis. You do realise this is how it all started in 1930s Germany?
so you think that having isis main backer as an allie and selling them arms doesn't in some way contribute - OK then.
What do you think is the cause then - how did they establish a caliphate in Iraq and Syria? What conditions allowed them to do that? Ignore foreign policy as a contributing factor while sieg heiling round your living room in front of a swastika! (that's a crass comment which will hopefully make you realise how stupid your truffle and cava remark is).
The thread is about neo nazis. Everyone condemns Islamists on the numerous threads that there have been on attacks by Islamists. No one on them threads has said yeah but what about the neo nazis.
Let that sink in for a minute.
You're obsessed with this notion that you're not allowed to say something. You've said it plenty of times in this thread. Nobody has tried to silence you they just disagree with you and so are saying you're wrong.The point that was being put across is that the threat we face from Nazi's is about 1% of the threat we face from jumped up jihadi's.
The threads are also full of apologists, yet, you don't see anyone here making excuses for Nazi's. Everyone has condemned them, some have just pointed out that Antifa are also incredibly violent, and often towards innocent people not involved in Nazism whatsoever.
However, we're not allowed to say that.
You're obsessed with this notion that you're not allowed to say something. You've said it plenty of times in this thread. Nobody has tried to silence you they just disagree with you and so are saying you're wrong.
If I said 2+2=5 and was told no would that be part of some liberal conspiracy to strangle the truth?
You're hanging around with the wrong people then. I've had plenty of civil debates over a few pints with people who disagree with me.In this thread I can say what I want, it doesn't always go down well, but I pretty much can. That's true. The only reason I can do that is because it is on an anonymous forum. In public you couldn't remotely have any kind of conversation that has been discussed on this thread.
the we are not allowed to say anything BS is symptomatic of tommy robinson followers
in their 20s, British bulldog or union jack online avatars or tattoos etc. time to take back our country etc
he is very deluded but doesnt know it
I have said many times, including when I highlighted my plan to combat terrorism, that we should pull out of all middle eastern conflict immediately.
All I have said is that this is an apologist tactic which almost serves as a 'we deserve it' every time a terrorist incident happens.
You're hanging around with the wrong people then. I've had plenty of civil debates over a few pints with people who disagree with me.
the we are not allowed to say anything BS is symptomatic of tommy robinson followers
in their 20s, British bulldog or union jack online avatars or tattoos etc. time to take back our country etc
he is very deluded but doesnt know it
can't believe western goverments never got into touch with you about that, they missed a trick.
We'd be a lot safer if they had. They have my msn addy, still waiting...
The point that was being put across is that the threat we face from Nazi's is about 1% of the threat we face from jumped up jihadi's.
The threads are also full of apologists, yet, you don't see anyone here making excuses for Nazi's. Everyone has condemned them, some have just pointed out that Antifa are also incredibly violent, and often towards innocent people not involved in Nazism whatsoever.
However, we're not allowed to say that.
That table means nothing other than terrorism on the whole has dropped from sources other than Islamists. What with the halting of militant action from ETA and the IRA, if you look at the bigger picture you will see whilst there is the odd, and usually rogue spike of a non islamic attack, the Islamic attacks are consistent, and pretty much rising all the time.
Islamic attacks:
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Most of the attacks listed here are not even reported: List of Islamic Terror Attacks
So why is it whenever anyone brings something up controversial, they get hounded?
Tell me why the Rotherham grooming scandal was allowed to prosper...
what do you mean hounded?
the grooming gangs are sick pathetic people, maybe the police protexted them maybe not. but the media certainly are not, in fact they screw everyone over by writing "british asian" gangs but when white peadophiles do it then colour is not mentioned. i am a british asian, i imagine if was young now and in nightclubs many would think stay away from him if he tries to pull you. at least back then it was cos i was ugly....
thats the world in a nut shell, somethings are against you,somethings are advantageous(in a weird way considering what we are talking about) for you.
people getting angry about that though make things worse, dont get distracted from the main issues, show love and compassion for everyone, dont let hate and bitterness get the better of you.
Christian terrorism - Wikipedia
The problem lies with fundamentalist religion of any form. Yes the Islamic version would exist without any Western military intervention, but it has unquestionably been helped by our continued involvement. Mrs May could do her bit by ceasing to arm the number one exporter of Wahabbism though.
So why is it whenever anyone brings something up controversial, they get hounded?
Tell me why the Rotherham grooming scandal was allowed to prosper...
what do you mean hounded?
the grooming gangs are sick pathetic people, maybe the police protexted them maybe not. but the media certainly are not, in fact they screw everyone over by writing "british asian" gangs but when white peadophiles do it then colour is not mentioned. i am a british asian, i imagine if was young now and in nightclubs many would think stay away from him if he tries to pull you. at least back then it was cos i was ugly....
thats the world in a nut shell, somethings are against you,somethings are advantageous(in a weird way considering what we are talking about) for you.
people getting angry about that though make things worse, dont get distracted from the main issues, show love and compassion for everyone, dont let hate and bitterness get the better of you.
no one is apologising for islamists, why are you making things up again, you're barkin'.
no idea. Why was the BBC paedophile ring allowed to prosper? Why was the Westminster paedophile ring allowed to prosper? Why are child sex traffickers allowed to prosper? Why has the American legal system enabled underage girls to be sold via backpage? Why has the catholic church paedophile scandal allowed to go on for so long and to a lesser extent other churches throughout the UK?
There's a lot of sick bastards out there from all parts of society.
I agree.
Again though, Islamic terrorism is much more of an issue than Christian terrorism.
no idea. Why was the BBC paedophile ring allowed to prosper? Why was the Westminster paedophile ring allowed to prosper? Why are child sex traffickers allowed to prosper? Why has the American legal system enabled underage girls to be sold via backpage? Why has the catholic church paedophile scandal allowed to go on for so long and to a lesser extent other churches throughout the UK?
There's a lot of sick bastards out there from all parts of society.
same as that. The notion that right wing ideas are being supressed in a country whose media is predominantly right wing is nonsense.
Which media gets the most traction do you think?
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