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clint van damme · Jul 20, 2017

CJ_covblaze said:
Releasing Martin and selling Vincelot so we could buy Turnbull is incompetence at the highest order. Turnbull took several months to adjust and even then only had a couple of half decent games. Martin wasn't brilliant but 9/10 times he did what was asked of him. Vincelot was probably our best player. It was a ludicrous decision and one that is partly to blame for our relegation.

surprised it's took so many posts to mention Vincelot.
Bizzare decision anyway, but selling Vicelot to fund it was plain bonkers from Mowbray.

Warwickhunt · Jul 20, 2017

clint van damme said:
surprised it's took so many posts to mention Vincelot.
Bizzare decision anyway, but selling Vicelot to fund it was plain bonkers from Mowbray.

Vincelot wanted to move so not much TM could have done apparently he was upsetting things in the dressing Room

RoboCCFC90 · Jul 20, 2017

skyblue025 said:
Mowbray had his targets lined up then his budget was slashed. He went from his first or second choices to his last choices which as we know weren't up to it. Turnbull was a disappointment, but Southampton fans were unhappy he was released as they thought he would be pushing for the first team.

Mowbray gave us six months of hope and excellent football. If he had been given a bit more support maybe we would of signed a better calibre of player than Henderson, Damage and Hunt. He was also incredibly unlucky in that every centre half we had got a long term injury.

I'd like to see proof of that statement.

CJ_covblaze · Jul 20, 2017

RoboCCFC90 said:
I'd like to see proof of that statement.

I get the impression that it's not too wide of the mark but it's also fair to say what he had to play with was completely wasted.

Sbarcher · Jul 20, 2017

Martin played last night against Brentford. Seemed off the pace and dragged around, but the Oxford fans realise he's returning from a serious injury and seem pretty supportive.

RoboCCFC90 · Jul 20, 2017

CJ_covblaze said:
I get the impression that it's not too wide of the mark but it's also fair to say what he had to play with was completely wasted.

It's a theory without any evidential proof, but I agree with you CJ in terms of what TM did do with his budget was wasted.

Someone summed it up perfectly earlier in the thread with the shopping analogy, Mowbray wanted players that realistically we couldn't afford or attract and had no back-up when it didn't come off.

clint van damme · Jul 20, 2017

Warwickhunt said:
Vincelot wanted to move so not much TM could have done apparently he was upsetting things in the dressing Room

if true then that's fair comment but he could have kept Martin and used the money elsewhere it was needed.

covcity4life · Jul 20, 2017

vincelot wanted out. if mowbray made a mistake spending the money thats ok opinion to have

it is now ok to pretend martin was such a good player. like i said OP is known troll when it comes to last season

clint van damme · Jul 21, 2017

covcity4life said:
vincelot wanted out. if mowbray made a mistake spending the money thats ok opinion to have

it is now ok to pretend martin was such a good player. like i said OP is known troll when it comes to last season

don't think anyone is saying Martin was a good player, just we spent money on replacing him with someone who isn't any better.

covcity4life · Jul 21, 2017

turnbull is better imo

Cavan O'Doherty · Jul 21, 2017

covcity4life said:
turnbull is better imo

His performances were not better than Martins.

covcity4life · Jul 21, 2017

Cavan O'Doherty said:
His performances were not better than Martins.

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Cavan O'Doherty · Jul 21, 2017

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Well I don't know what you watched last season.

MusicDating · Jul 21, 2017

covcity4life said:
vincelot wanted out. if mowbray made a mistake spending the money thats ok opinion to have

it is now ok to pretend martin was such a good player. like i said OP is known troll when it comes to last season

According to Crowley (think he said it on a Nii Lamptey podcast) that Vincelot wasn't the direction TM wanted to go in his midfield. So not sure he did want to leave.

Grendel · Jul 21, 2017

MusicDating said:
According to Crowley (think he said it on a Nii Lamptey podcast) that Vincelot wasn't the direction TM wanted to go in his midfield. So not sure he did want to leave.

Mowbray had jettisoned him from the middle of the park during the latter stages of the season he was here so I wouldn't be surprised.

lifeskyblue · Jul 21, 2017

Martin improved no end in his final season here. I was disappointed he was let go (but I wouldn't have been if he left the season before). I think turnbull has been ok...not great but has improved in last dozen games. I think he could do a job for us this season. But like Thomas he has to demonstrate he is committed or not.

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skyblue025 · Jul 21, 2017

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Jordan Turnbull: Southampton defender signs for Coventry City

My biggest frustration of last season was paying money for JT... awful player who had a mistake in him every match

Fair one looks lime I was told wrong.

Nick · Jul 21, 2017

skyblue025 said:
Fair one looks lime I was told wrong.

Usually what happens when you listen to people aimlessly making things up

Hobo · Jul 21, 2017

clint van damme said:
don't think anyone is saying Martin was a good player, just we spent money on replacing him with someone who isn't any better.

And yes, so you off load to improve but that buying bit is always a gamble.

Hobo · Jul 21, 2017

lifeskyblue said:
Martin improved no end in his final season here. I was disappointed he was let go (but I wouldn't have been if he left the season before). I think turnbull has been ok...not great but has improved in last dozen games. I think he could do a job for us this season. But like Thomas he has to demonstrate he is committed or not.

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Not over the season but when Mowbray had to play him through injury. Mowbray gave him a simple remit, "just head it and kick it away."

The following season Mowbray obviously wanted a bit more despite the player matching the brief.

mds · Jul 22, 2017

lifeskyblue said:
I think turnbull has been ok...not great but has improved in last dozen games.
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Who didnt improve the last 10 games or so?
From MR`s first game in charge there was improvement right across the pitch from front to back, poor players and poorer management made everything look bad, poor players better management didnt look anywhere near as bad, MR could of made last seasons squad look like contenders if how they ended the season was anything to go by. Piss poor management from the first day of the season set the tone and negativity towards the entire squad because for all intense and purposes they looked and played shit from match day 1 to about match day 36, if they had played the first 36 the way they were playing the final 10, ignoring his first three games the change was obvious the results wernt, under Robins i think opinion of the team and squad would be vastly different........

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