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shmmeee

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If things don’t go well it’s because we have a L1 side in the Championship. That’s either because Robins succeeded ahead of the plan, or because he wasn’t backed properly for the plan. Neither of which are his fault. The baseline has to be us finishing where our wage budget puts us. Anything more is success even if it’s still relegation.
 

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Some people need their heads examining in three and a half years what that bloke has done for our club is nothing short of phenomenal
In Robins we trust! PUSB
HAVE A WORD WITH YOURSELF.
Toby Fare. Twas a question, not a request. Would SISU remove him if we have a nightmare for the next 4 (hypothetical) months? Fair question, what do you think?

Personally I think it would take a very, very bad season and the fans and / or players turning on MR. Can’t see any of those things being likely, apart maybe from the bad season bit — but not yet prepared to think that it is a certainty.

We lost against one of the favourites, with a patched up team, and we played ok (in spells).
 
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They'd be idiots to when everyone knows he's on the 2nd lowest budget in the league. Fisher said himself we can't compete in the Championship. Robins gets a free hit this year (but that doesn't mean he's exempt from criticism for some of his matchday decisions) and even then he should be judged on next summer's business if we stay in the Championship or at Xmas in L1. What is crucial is that we are back at the Ricoh at the latest for the start of next season.
 

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If things don’t go well it’s because we have a L1 side in the Championship. That’s either because Robins succeeded ahead of the plan, or because he wasn’t backed properly for the plan. Neither of which are his fault. The baseline has to be us finishing where our wage budget puts us. Anything more is success even if it’s still relegation.
I don’t get this L1 side in the Championship stuff.

We are a Championship team playing in the Championship!

It’s going to take getting used to, hard work & belief but the majority of our team are good enough technically to cope with this division.

Robins has said it in numerous games this year-its about having faith in their own ability and a positive mindset.

Most of our games we’ve started as though we think we are going to lose, only playing the way we can after we’ve gone behind.

Just need to start the game better & the results will come.


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I don’t get this L1 side in the Championship stuff.

We are a Championship team playing in the Championship!

It’s going to take getting used to, hard work & belief but the majority of our team are good enough technically to cope with this division.

Robins has said it in numerous games this year-its about having faith in their own ability and a positive mindset.

Most of our games we’ve started as though we think we are going to lose, only playing the way we can after we’ve gone behind.

Just need to start the game better & the results will come.


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Yesterday’s team was entirely made up of players who were signed for L1, and have mostly played the majority of their career at that level. Even Sheaf has played mostly at that level, and he was the only new signing on the pitch.

By all accounts only Wycombe (another L1 side) have a lower wage budget, so we have a L1 budget too. There’s a gulf between us and lower Championship sides in terms of wages not a gradient.

It is what it is. Brum, corona, lack of a ground, whatever the reason is irrelevant to the job Robins has to do this season. The only failure he could have would be finishing dead last and even then that wouldn’t be much of a relative failure cos the difference between us and Wycombe is far less than between us and those above us.
 
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Yesterday’s team was entirely made up of players who were signed for L1, and have mostly played the majority of their career at that level. Even Sheaf has played mostly at that level, and he was the only new signing on the pitch.

By all accounts only Wycombe (another L1 side) have a lower wage budget, so we have a L1 budget too. There’s a gulf between us and lower Championship sides in terms of wages not a gradient.

It is what it is. Brum, corona, lack of a ground, whatever the reason is irrelevant to the job Robins has to do this season. The only failure he could have would be finishing dead last and even then that wouldn’t be much of a relative failure cos the difference between us and Wycombe is far less than between us and those above us.
I doubt are wages are significantly different to Barnsley and Rotherham
 

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I doubt are wages are significantly different to Barnsley and Rotherham
And I doubt we’ll finish significantly behind them.

We are in a league of four probably with Rotherham, Wycombe and Barnsley. All I’d guess of wage budgets around £7/8m, looking at this from a couple of seasons ago it’s fair to assume that even the next lowest is spending at least double that:

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And I doubt we’ll finish significantly behind them.

We are in a league of four probably with Rotherham, Wycombe and Barnsley. All I’d guess of wage budgets around £7/8m, looking at this from a couple of seasons ago it’s fair to assume that even the next lowest is spending at least double that:

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Our total wage bill (I assume these are looking at the Rotherham figure) will probably be nearer to £10 m - ultimately relegation isn’t really an option and this is a better chance to survive than any other recent season

Luton seem pretty difficult to extract the info out the accounts but I doubt they are massive and they seem to have already issued a statement that accounts will be delayed for last years figures.
 

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Our total wage bill (I assume these are looking at the Rotherham figure) will probably be nearer to £10 m - ultimately relegation isn’t really an option and this is a better chance to survive than any other recent season

Luton seem pretty difficult to extract the info out the accounts but I doubt they are massive and they seem to have already issued a statement that accounts will be delayed for last years figures.
Figure I saw for last year was £5.2m, I’d be very surprised if we’ve doubled the wage bill considering the signings we’ve made.
 
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And I doubt we’ll finish significantly behind them.

We are in a league of four probably with Rotherham, Wycombe and Barnsley. All I’d guess of wage budgets around £7/8m, looking at this from a couple of seasons ago it’s fair to assume that even the next lowest is spending at least double that:

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Agreed. It will 3 from us, Wycombe, Barnsley and Rotherham who go down
 

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Figure I saw for last year was £5.2m, I’d be very surprised if we’ve doubled the wage bill considering the signings we’ve made.
I havent seen any accounts for last year but total wages were £5 million in the last set of accounts

Off the top of my head we last year signed Godden Mcfazdean Allen kastaneer and jonbello as relatively established players. Also there will be bonus payments on top of that for promotion.

Now we have walker O Hare And hamer as well
 

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I don’t get this L1 side in the Championship stuff.

We are a Championship team playing in the Championship!

It’s going to take getting used to, hard work & belief but the majority of our team are good enough technically to cope with this division.

Robins has said it in numerous games this year-its about having faith in their own ability and a positive mindset.

Most of our games we’ve started as though we think we are going to lose, only playing the way we can after we’ve gone behind.

Just need to start the game better & the results will come.


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The question you have to ask is how many of our players would get into a team who’s not our competition (Barnsley, Rotherham, Wycombe etc). My guess is none of them therefore staying up is the aim
 
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