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Coventry Willie Boland FC would be for COventry Willie Boland FC fans. Are you so dumb you don't get this simple point?
Sphinx is for Sphinx fans. Are you really that dumb that you don't get that simple point.
So, you want to push through your agenda and not listen to anybody who disagrees.
A great start for a democratic club, that.
And let's ignore the Trust view until it agrees with us.
This is all sounding rather sinister and dictatorial tbh and no, i want no truck with dictators.
Sphinx is for Sphinx fans. Are you really that dumb that you don't get that simple point.
Can you not read? Is a member vote not a sign of democracy?
The club is not dead.
Any club now would be a rival club.
There are some of those (such as Coventry Sphinx) to support now.
You want to form a new rival club go ahead, but it will not be a phoenix club.
I don't fancy supporting SISU Mk 2, not listening to fans and bullying a decision through regardless.
What gives you the right to decide it would be a phoenix club, when it wouldn't.
Are you being deliberately obtuse?
Can you not read? You are forcing an agenda on people and silencing anything that does not agree. On this thread, both yourself and Swiss are demonstrating the worst excesses of SISU.
I actually thought better of you, but it appears you WILL set up a rival club regardless.
Go ahead and do it then, but don't presume to call it anything other than a rival.
Are you being deliberately obtuse, and refusing to acknowledge it would not be a phoenix club as the current one still exists.
What do you do if Coventry City FC comes back tomorrow? Continue supporting your new 'phoenix' club?
Your contradictory views beggar belief.[/QUOT
Getting stupid now. I thought I was discussing with someone sensible, but it turns out you are not reasonable but deliberately contradictory no matter what is said or what point is put forward. You just go on arguing with yourself. The good thing to come out of this "discussion" is that, should a Phoenix club arise, you will quite clearly not be a part of it, thank goodness.
I didn't say I would set up a breakaway club regardless. If SISU demonstrate they are coming back then I would not do anything. I am just saying if enough people want to do it it will happen regardless of whether the trust want to be involved. All I ask from the trust is that if SISU do not demonstrate they will return then we have a vote this season.
Are you being deliberately obtuse, and refusing to acknowledge it would not be a phoenix club as the current one still exists.
What do you do if Coventry City FC comes back tomorrow? Continue supporting your new 'phoenix' club?
Your contradictory views beggar belief.
Getting stupid now. I thought I was discussing with someone sensible, but it turns out you are not reasonable but deliberately contradictory no matter what is said or what point is put forward.
It couldn't technically be a Phoenix club in the same way Wimbledon can't and FC United can't. It is not necessarily a rival club either (although it could become so). It should be called a breakaway club.
Of course if there is a majority vote in favour, they would have to disband themselves straight away of course.
Breakaway, now I like that!
Don't get the point. Are you saying if SBT had a majority vote on starting afresh that they would have to disband? That makes no sense. The reborn club would be sky blues too and would take the lifeblood of the club, the fans, with it.
What?
What?
Is it reborn or is it a breakaway?
Don't get the point. Are you saying if SBT had a majority vote on starting afresh that they would have to disband? That makes no sense. The reborn club would be sky blues too and would take the lifeblood of the club, the fans, with it.
I didn't say I would set up a breakaway club regardless. If SISU demonstrate they are coming back then I would not do anything. I am just saying if enough people want to do it it will happen regardless of whether the trust want to be involved. All I ask from the trust is that if SISU do not demonstrate they will return then we have a vote this season.
No, they wouldn't be the Sky Blue Trust at all, they would become the 1883, or Godiva or whatever Trust.
You can't piggy back off the history of the existing club.
Make your own.
No, they wouldn't be the Sky Blue Trust at all, they would become the 1883, or Godiva or whatever Trust.
You can't piggy back off the history of the existing club.
Make your own.
What would you do if CCFC decided they were permanently relocating to Northampton (or anywhere else for that matter)?
If they were permanently moving away, then they would cease to be the club that i support.
However, I would give a bit of time before giving up on them, the teams mentioned before, Bristol Rovers, Charlton, Brighton, Rotherham were all away for a while, but their fans contimued to campaign to get them back to their home.
They diidn't decide to start up a new club in opposition to them.
If I didn't have CCFC, then I wouldn't have anybody I don't think.
If they were permanently moving away, then they would cease to be the club that i support.
What some on this thread choose to miss is...
I'm actually all for the current club going tits up and a revived club starting(!) Have been since the joy of McGinnity (now there's a book that'd be particularly unerotic!)
However the only way to get as many fans onside as possible is to wait until that day.
That's trying to do what's best for such a club, rather than putting my personal desires first
Who cares if a Trust majority say yes, or a certain number say yes? I want everybody (even Swiss) there in the ground with me to cheer them on to a heroic draw against Atherstone Town... even if they don't want me there in return.
Inclusive = success. Exclusive = SISU.
But they don't represent the community of Coventry in any way now in my opinion. And I completely disagree with the ethics.
It's a bite like your mrs going off and shagging someone else but continuing to cling on in the vein hope they will come back.
I actually agree with this. Think we would come out of this strongest if the club folded and we started again. Clean slate.
Are you being deliberately obtuse?
I stated quite clearly that for me it would be a Phoenix club because for me CCFC died when they blew the whistle at Sixfields. If I decide for me that it is my Phoenix club, then it is my Phoenix club. There are no "rights" involved here. That you would not see it as a Phoenix club is totally irrelevant to me. That you would see it as a rival club is totally irrelevant to me.
You can complain as long as you like that it would not be a Phoenix club, and for you that would be true. But for me, it would be a Phoenix club, and that you seem to believe that just because for you it is not a Phoenix club means that it cannot be a Phoenix club for me and others beggars belief.
There would be no rival club, it would be CCFC for us. That you cannot accept this is your problem, not mine. To me, CCFC is dead, and a replacement Phoenix club is required.
Would the Trust ever support or put to its members a vote to start a phoenix club?
If yes,
What time-frame would you give the SISU related companies, to return Coventry City to Coventry before this goes on the agenda?
The simple answer is yes. Time frame would be decided by the fans / members of the trust.
But let's not give up on CCFC just yet
As has been stated we have explored the possibility for a phoenix club if CCFC was ever liquidated and a new club had to be formed. As things stand we are focused totally on getting the team back to its home - Coventry In Coventry. Should in the future either SISU liquidate the club or it is crystal clear they have no plans to come back then we would put plans into operation but as long as there is a CCFC we will concentrate on that.
I think you and Mark will be supporting your Phoenix Club - though of course only Mark will be attending.
CCFC is not dead. It is fully functioning and has 130 years of history. There are very few people who have given up on the club. You can give up - perhaps you are a quitter by nature - that is your prerogative. It would be a pub team supported by a handful - far less than those who go to Sixfields.
CCFC has huge heritage which is worth fighting for. I am bored with Mark's constant threads about new clubs -- no one is interested, go away.
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