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Deleted member 5849 · Nov 16, 2014

HS2 will mean Aston Villa need a new training complex (currently in Warwickshire, AKA 'The Coventry Area':thinking about.

We could go into partnership with them. They could fund the training complex, and a 50/50 spliut on a 10k seater stadioum. Villa could use it for reserve games, us for first team games.

We could fund our contribution by selling Ryton, closing our academy, and giving Villa a free reign to claim the academy 'rights' for Coventry and Warwickshire. Then we set up a partnership where they lend us the promising youth players for first team experience, and those Coventry kids get to play for a Coventry team as they develop, before going on to bigger and better things with a top flight club in the region...

:thinking about:

dongonzalos · Nov 16, 2014

Wasps CRFC springs to mind

wingy · Nov 16, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
HS2 will mean Aston Villa need a new training complex (currently in Warwickshire, AKA 'The Coventry Area':thinking about.

We could go into partnership with them. They could fund the training complex, and a 50/50 spliut on a 10k seater stadioum. Villa could use it for reserve games, us for first team games.

We could fund our contribution by selling Ryton, closing our academy, and giving Villa a free reign to claim the academy 'rights' for Coventry and Warwickshire. Then we set up a partnership where they lend us the promising youth players for first team experience, and those Coventry kids get to play for a Coventry team as they develop, before going on to bigger and better things with a top flight club in the region...

:thinking about:

HMMM, wonder where you got the Idea for such a model.

Astute · Nov 16, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
HS2 will mean Aston Villa need a new training complex (currently in Warwickshire, AKA 'The Coventry Area':thinking about.

We could go into partnership with them. They could fund the training complex, and a 50/50 spliut on a 10k seater stadioum. Villa could use it for reserve games, us for first team games.

We could fund our contribution by selling Ryton, closing our academy, and giving Villa a free reign to claim the academy 'rights' for Coventry and Warwickshire. Then we set up a partnership where they lend us the promising youth players for first team experience, and those Coventry kids get to play for a Coventry team as they develop, before going on to bigger and better things with a top flight club in the region...

:thinking about:

I would rather eat my own cock.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 16, 2014

Astute said:
I would rather eat my own cock.

You like eating little and often?

ccfc1234 · Nov 16, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
HS2 will mean Aston Villa need a new training complex (currently in Warwickshire, AKA 'The Coventry Area':thinking about.

We could go into partnership with them. They could fund the training complex, and a 50/50 spliut on a 10k seater stadioum. Villa could use it for reserve games, us for first team games.

We could fund our contribution by selling Ryton, closing our academy, and giving Villa a free reign to claim the academy 'rights' for Coventry and Warwickshire. Then we set up a partnership where they lend us the promising youth players for first team experience, and those Coventry kids get to play for a Coventry team as they develop, before going on to bigger and better things with a top flight club in the region...

:thinking about:

not a good idea and one that would consign us to always being in villas shadow. The long term aim of ccfc has to be top end championship or at best premier league football. With us playing at a training ground and having no youth set up to profit from like we did with wilson etc we would be doomed to being a feeder club forever.

I think some people forget coventry is a huge city and growing and we should never despite the problems make decisions that are as short sighted as you have outlined.

Ashdown · Nov 16, 2014

ccfc1234 said:
not a good idea and one that would consign us to always being in villas shadow. The long term aim of ccfc has to be top end championship or at best premier league football. With us playing at a training ground and having no youth set up to profit from like we did with wilson etc we would be doomed to being a feeder club forever.

I think some people forget coventry is a huge city and growing and we should never despite the problems make decisions that are as short sighted as you have outlined.

It's not the numbers, it's the types of people though isn't it. If you think 000's of mainly oriental students and 000's more Eastern European and African migrants to the area will have an immediate affinity with it's sports clubs then I think you are being a bit hopeful. Even long standing residents struggle to interest their kids in teams that are not glamorous. Coventry must have one of the most disloyal populations in the country. I fear that this will be demonstrated when Wasps come to town !

skybluetony176 · Nov 16, 2014

I think I'd rather be Wasps bitch than Aston Villas bitch.

bigfatronssba · Nov 16, 2014

Ashdown said:
It's not the numbers, it's the types of people though isn't it. If you think 000's of mainly oriental students and 000's more Eastern European and African migrants to the area will have an immediate affinity with it's sports clubs then I think you are being a bit hopeful. Even long standing residents struggle to interest their kids in teams that are not glamorous. Coventry must have one of the most disloyal populations in the country. I fear that this will be demonstrated when Wasps come to town !

I didn't realise Coventry was the only city with an immigrant population.

pusbccfc · Nov 16, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
HS2 will mean Aston Villa need a new training complex (currently in Warwickshire, AKA 'The Coventry Area':thinking about.

We could go into partnership with them. They could fund the training complex, and a 50/50 spliut on a 10k seater stadioum. Villa could use it for reserve games, us for first team games.

We could fund our contribution by selling Ryton, closing our academy, and giving Villa a free reign to claim the academy 'rights' for Coventry and Warwickshire. Then we set up a partnership where they lend us the promising youth players for first team experience, and those Coventry kids get to play for a Coventry team as they develop, before going on to bigger and better things with a top flight club in the region...

:thinking about:

Go for it, can't be worse than the current mare.

Sick Boy · Nov 16, 2014

ccfc1234 said:
not a good idea and one that would consign us to always being in villas shadow. The long term aim of ccfc has to be top end championship or at best premier league football. With us playing at a training ground and having no youth set up to profit from like we did with wilson etc we would be doomed to being a feeder club forever.

I think some people forget coventry is a huge city and growing and we should never despite the problems make decisions that are as short sighted as you have outlined.

The current situation with the Ricoh will mean the best we can hope to become is a league 1 & championship yo-yo club.

dongonzalos · Nov 16, 2014

Sick Boy said:
The current situation with our owners will mean the best we can hope to become is a league 1 & championship yo-yo club.

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Bill Glazier · Nov 16, 2014

Do we even own Ryton anymore?

Sick Boy · Nov 16, 2014

dongonzalos said:
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How would the situation change with new owners? The only way we could have got rid of sisu would have been if we owned part of the ricoh, yet most seemed to be against that. Why would anyone want to buy a club who rent a rugby club's ground?

wingy · Nov 16, 2014

Bill Glazier said:
Do we even own Ryton anymore?

Arvo have first dibs should anything untoward occur .

We cannot sell or raise finance against It .

Jack Griffin · Nov 16, 2014

This thread is the worst nightmare ever, a Villa feeder club, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 16, 2014

ccfc1234 said:
not a good idea and one that would consign us to always being in villas shadow.

Is that important?

wingy · Nov 16, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
Is that important?

You old reverse psychology merchant ,you.

Astute · Nov 16, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
You like eating little and often?

So you have not met or seen pictures of me before then. I am not exactly slim

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 16, 2014

Astute said:
So you have not met or seen pictures of me before then. I am not exactly slim

Just what are you suggesting here?!?

Astute · Nov 16, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
Just what are you suggesting here?!?

Ask the wife next time I am at work :wave:

dongonzalos · Nov 16, 2014

Sick Boy said:
How would the situation change with new owners? The only way we could have got rid of sisu would have been if we owned part of the ricoh, yet most seemed to be against that. Why would anyone want to buy a club who rent a rugby club's ground?

Right back to the day their throw if the dice of an instant return failed and they went on a mission to break even like normal (non football businesses) do. We were only going to be a division 3, Division 2 yo yo team.

ecky · Nov 16, 2014

Jack Griffin said:
This thread is the worst nightmare ever, a Villa feeder club, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont worry they will be in the championship next season....

Sick Boy · Nov 16, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Right back to the day their throw if the dice of an instant return failed and they went on a mission to break even like normal (non football businesses) do. We were only going to be a division 3, Division 2 yo yo team.

You didn't exactly answer the questions. What happens if we have debt loaded against the club and miss out on promotion? No owner of a football club puts money in and doesn't expect it back.

italiahorse · Nov 16, 2014

Sick Boy said:
You didn't exactly answer the questions. What happens if we have debt loaded against the club and miss out on promotion? No owner of a football club puts money in and doesn't expect it back.

Sometimes you make mistakes in business.
Sisu need to decide whether to sell now and take the losses, or continue to make further losses.
They are now at the top of their cycle.

letsallsingtogether · Nov 16, 2014

Sick Boy said:
How would the situation change with new owners? The only way we could have got rid of sisu would have been if we owned part of the ricoh, yet most seemed to be against that. Why would anyone want to buy a club who rent a rugby club's ground?

skybluetony176 · Nov 16, 2014

Sick Boy said:
You didn't exactly answer the questions. What happens if we have debt loaded against the club and miss out on promotion? No owner of a football club puts money in and doesn't expect it back.

I think Muhammad Al Fayed barely got his money owed back when he sold Fulham and IIRC that's probably because he never charged Fulham a bean in interest.

Cheshire Sky Blue · Nov 16, 2014

Sick Boy said:
You didn't exactly answer the questions. What happens if we have debt loaded against the club and miss out on promotion? No owner of a football club puts money in and doesn't expect it back.

But lets be real here. SISU Have put in absolutely fuck all. Most of the debt that has been generated is for interest and charges awarded to themselves. What they paid out in wages they got back from a few decent cup runs and selling the family silver.

They should just go....

They won't, but they should.

Terry Gibson's perm · Nov 16, 2014

wingy said:
Arvo have first dibs should anything untoward occur .

We cannot sell or raise finance against It .

Good luck with Arvo first dibs on that it's just a piece of grass they may as well own a piece of Foleshill Park as they have got more chance of getting planning permission on that.

oldfiver · Nov 17, 2014

ccfc1234 said:
not a good idea and one that would consign us to always being in villas shadow. The long term aim of ccfc has to be top end championship or at best premier league football. With us playing at a training ground and having no youth set up to profit from like we did with wilson etc we would be doomed to being a feeder club forever.

I think some people forget coventry is a huge city and growing and we should never despite the problems make decisions that are as short sighted as you have outlined.

How is it growing and with whom/what and where ?

CCFC PimpRail · Nov 17, 2014

Is it April 1st...?

Covstu · Nov 17, 2014

I feel sick just thinking about this but i suppose it is as bad as the current situation, just still cannot get over the fact that a rugby club moved into our home and we have just let it happen..... i know its not a simple as that but thats what is boils down too. We shouldnt be looking for a new home/build one we fucking had one!!!

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 17, 2014

CCFC PimpRail said:
Is it April 1st...?

It makes more financial sense than most options...

Kneeza · Nov 17, 2014

Lost: Tongue. Last seen buried in someone's cheek.

FFS.

SBA1987 · Nov 17, 2014

This is by far the worst idea I've heard yet.

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