Discussion in 'Coventry City General Chat' started by AFCCOVENTRY, Jun 18, 2019.
My sauces tell me. We might make our 8th signing between now and the start of the season.
They also tell me we might sell someone in the same time frame.
I can now exclusively reveal my sauce.....
Still more reliable than St George.
Because the people of Coventry are glory hunters, Wasps are a Premiership side, if Cov Rugby were a Premiership side then the attendances would be up.
It's the same as the Football Club, for 40+ games a season 30,000 people don't give a damn, but get to Wembley and everyone is a CCFC fan again, sickening.
Has anybody rang rentokil and told them there's an infestation at the ricoh?
Bit harsh, every single club is the same. The better the product the higher the demand. People will obviously go out of their way to get to a cup final rather than scramble to get to Fleetwood on a Tuesday night.
It's not harsh at all.
Take CCFC as an example, last season our average home league attendance was just less than 12,500.. If City were in the Premier League you could stick another 8,000 - 10,000 on top of that, just because the Club is in the Premier League.
Fair enough people want to see a decent product, but at the same time CCFC have a loyal following of about 8,000 fans, where as the likes of Pompey, even Sunderland, stick by their club no matter what, I'd give anything to have that kind of support consistently at City, but people are half arsed only interested when City are doing well, i.e Wembley appearances.
I doubt there's a comparable population centre in English football with as poor average attendance as us.
So you would of been happier with just 10,000 city fans at Wembley would you?
When they aren’t in the prem/doing well in the championship, their attendances plummet.
What would make me happy is if half of those fans or pushing 3/4 could go home games every other Saturday, that would be the Ricoh at capacity and make the matchday an all round better experience, not to mention benefit the Club.
If only 10,000 City fans rocked up at Wembley it would be a reward to the loyalists who have supported the Club throughout the season.
Coventry has 325,949 people living in it, we had 12,363 on average at the Ricoh last season, under 4% of the population.. It's wrong.
Do you have anything to back that up?
A quick look:
Coventry: 359,262 - 12,362 avg
Reading: 318,014 - 14,991 avg
Hull: 314,018 - 12,165 avg
Preston: 313,332 - 14,160 avg
3 Championship teams that we're not that far off tbh.
The majority of Bedworth and Nuneaton are City fans, not to mention significant numbers in Kenilworth, Leamington and Warwick too.
I don't think it's harsh, I think as a city/surrounding area we genuinely must have the weakest fan base to glory in the country. I agree that to a level the product / demand will have a correlation, but if you look at the likes of Portsmouth, Sunderland, Bradford, and then even up to the likes of Leeds (I know they have a bigger history than we do), but they get huge numbers relative to us every week. Leeds averaged 24,000 the three years they were in League 1. Also have been run by shambolic owners, so can't even use that card.
Preston population 141,346
Hull population 284,321
Reading population 218,705
Prestons population is never 313,332. It's 141,300: List of English districts by population - Wikipedia
Huh - I was going by this. Must be wrong.
How many were we getting when we were in prem? About 14/15?
The things that have happened since we got relegated I don't blame some fans interest waning.
That is madness. They have Newport at over 300,000.
Yep, there's many of us who have never even lived in Cov. I never have.
What about those who work on a Saturday, or those with family commitments,
Or those who are watching their kids play sport, or those who don’t have the money to spend every other week on 3rd division football?
The fact that we can sell out our allocation for Wembley for a city that has many food banks, a homeless problem, and numerous kids living in homes that survive on incomes below the national average is a credit to the club, not a slight on the people of coventry.
I think a reality check is required.
Yes, and Coventry is the only city like this. Nowhere else are people poor or have children that play sports.
I totally agree the ratio is poor, what I argue against is the fact that the irregular attendees get stick for turning up. Have a dig at the guys who NEVER turn up, not the ones that do it when they can.
On your other clubs point: Leeds lost 14k from prem days to league 1 days. Sunderland lost 9. We've lost what..3/4? Not that bad really.
That’s right, and why we should be satisfied with one of the best attendance records in the third tier. 10-13k is not a bad number all thing considered.
Coventry plus the rest of the Coventry & Warwickshire sub region is easily over half a million population wise going towards a million. Our support is OK on the whole, not really sure why we would expect any more than the current average given historic averages.
Empirical knowledge. I live in Cardiff and have kept an eye out on attendances and the like. I’ve seen just how low they can get, even when they’re in the championship.
Cardiff is almost exactly the same size as cov, and is obviously a capital city so should attract more from local environs.
Cardiff support is mostly Johnny come lately types enticed by the new stadium and comparative recent success, before that they were averaging lower than us and sub 10k for a long time. I used to go and visit family there and never once even met a Cardiff City fan (early 90s)
Not really, the fans are a minor part of the problem - if 50% of the Wembley 40k turned up regularly, we wouldn’t have SISU either
Coventry is very fickle, and probably deserves nomad teams like the current football side and Wasps.
Go back to the Aidy Boothroyd Era - 26/27k at home against Leeds and Norwich when we were doing well - couldn’t wait to tear into us when we lost and disappeared straight after.
Then you’ve got the other “fans” who would rather see us kicked out the league
All the above would be irrelevant if the Club was in the Premier League though, attendances would be double every week.
Of course, a reality check though *sarcasm
Making a comparison from a Wembley cup final v Ave attendance is very unfair.
As would 95% of clubs.
Not really we have what - 25% regularly of that figure. That’s pitiful. Like someone said above - working on Saturdays and family commitments would go out the window if we were in the premier league.
28k went to Gillingham on the return to the Ricoh, we had 10k against Yeovil the following week.
Same as the play off Semi Final - 14k, that’s poor compared to the 38k we took to the final
This. It’s happened more recently too - in the Mogga L1 season we were briefly getting 17-18k, but then 5k evaporated immediately when the wheels came off.
I’ve come to dread one-off big crowds, because we always seem to underperform & I hate the moaning & whining from fair-weather fans.
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