75% rule (1 Viewer)

We played 34 right? I know the rest of the league ha e ayed more but just make for a right laugh.

AFCCOVENTRY said:

Apparently from the FA handbook and being posted online....don’t know if true:

The FA rule book states if a team play over 75% (35 games) of its games and the season ends all points remain valid and it can’t be void.

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That has been the case in the amateur game for years didn’t know it was 75% but knew there was a rule. I have known it used in the local leagues a few times when clubs have packed up or thrown out for discipline reasons

AFCCOVENTRY said:

Apparently from the FA handbook and being posted online....don’t know if true:

The FA rule book states if a team play over 75% (35 games) of its games and the season ends all points remain valid and it can’t be void.

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75% of 44 is 33 not 35.

AFCCOVENTRY said:

Apparently from the FA handbook and being posted online....don’t know if true:

The FA rule book states if a team play over 75% (35 games) of its games and the season ends all points remain valid and it can’t be void.

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Pray it’s true.


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So now we just keep our fingers crossed.

Shortly after washing them of course

AFCCOVENTRY said:

As the league has completed 75% of matches Liverpool will still be crowned champions, United will again be in the europa league next season unless City’s ban applies. That’s on the FA’s website.

From another tweet.

Right...let’s all check the FA site then

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Google didn’t help

Either way whether we play the rest of the season or it is stopped by a global pandemic the season is OURS!

The FA Handbook

Happy hunting

If we don't go up in a few months as CHAMPIONS, I'll be doing a bit more than throwing a dummy out of the pram! :emoji_angry:

I thought the FA only controlled the rules of the game and the EFL govern the running of the league and associated competitions.
So surely it's up to the EFL what happens and not the FA.

AFCCOVENTRY said:

We’ve played 77% of the league season

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If you include Bury it’s less than 75%

But I agree with you.

Ring Of Steel said:

If you include Bury it’s less than 75%

But I agree with you.

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Blimey that adds an awkward complication, would you include those games or not?


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to me, it follows that if a club has points taken if they don’t reach 75% then it works the other way as well. The accrued points at/beyond 75% count.


In the event of a Team withdrawing from the Competition before completing 75% of its fixtures for the Playing Season all points obtained by or recorded against such defaulting Team shall be expunged from the Competition table. For the purposes of this Rule 22(D) a completed fixture shall include any Competition Match(es) which has been awarded by the Management Committee.
(E) Where a promotion and/or relegation link exists between Competitions [ ] Clubs, prov

djr8369 said:

Blimey that adds an awkward complication, would you include those games or not?


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haha- I don’t know, but it’s the first thing that cane into my head. I guess we’re into the legal definition of whether a cancellation means the fixture never existed or if it was a fixture that was called off.

To be honest I don’t see how you can void a season, it makes no sense at all.

I think it will be a bit of a travesty if the season isn’t completed and they decide to void it with no promotions or relegations. Especially this far into the season.

Voiding a season that’s three quarters completed is an absolutely fucking ridiculous idea.

The EFL would be best advised to figure out, and declare asap, what the contingency plan is should they decide playing out the season isn’t viable. It’s a big fucking question mark that needs addressing now so clubs can plan accordingly.

usskyblue said:

Voiding a season that’s three quarters completed is an absolutely fucking ridiculous idea.

The EFL would be best advised to figure out, and declare asap, what the contingency plan is should they decide playing out the season isn’t viable. It’s a big fucking question mark that needs addressing now so clubs can plan accordingly.

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There’s a meeting on Tuesday,

ajsccfc said:

The FA Handbook

Happy hunting

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Page 100 & 101 is all I can find relating to it, no mention of 75% rule

Liverpool for the quadruple. Oh never mind, it was only the Carabo cup.
Liverpool for the treble. Oh never mind it was only the F.A cup.
Liverpool for the double. Oh dear, out of Europe, never mind, we will be champions.
Coronavirus,: "Hold my beer. "

Don’t think the Bury situation will come into it, this year our division is a 44 game competition all clubs have played atleast 75% of their fixtures except Sunderland who have played 36 about 80% and that puts them right behind the black ball should league places go to points per games ratio, what a shame.
Looking at all the leagues from Premiership to League 2 all clubs have played atleast 75% of their games.

usskyblue said:

Voiding a season that’s three quarters completed is an absolutely fucking ridiculous idea.

The EFL would be best advised to figure out, and declare asap, what the contingency plan is should they decide playing out the season isn’t viable. It’s a big fucking question mark that needs addressing now so clubs can plan accordingly.

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You are right

usskyblue said:

Voiding a season that’s three quarters completed is an absolutely fucking ridiculous idea.

The EFL would be best advised to figure out, and declare asap, what the contingency plan is should they decide playing out the season isn’t viable. It’s a big fucking question mark that needs addressing now so clubs can plan accordingly.

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Amen/Yeehaa brother.

usskyblue said:

Voiding a season that’s three quarters completed is an absolutely fucking ridiculous idea.

The EFL would be best advised to figure out, and declare asap, what the contingency plan is should they decide playing out the season isn’t viable. It’s a big fucking question mark that needs addressing now so clubs can plan accordingly.

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I think the position is covered in the FA rule book, I just wonder if it’s a coincidence all the clubs in the Prem and EFL have played 75% of their fixtures.

The only relevant rule relates to points accrued by a club that then folds, whatever is eventually decided about this season will essentially be made up be people in meetings.

SAJ said:

75% of 44 is 33 not 35.

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In The Championship and League 2 it’s probably 35 games.

The FA and EPL will have continengy plans in place if something like this occurred (or if War broke out etc)

We have to treat the league as a 44 game season as Bury are not in the league. Therefore we have played 77% of our games. If that rule existing the season should finish as it is.

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skyblue1991 said:

The FA and EPL will have continengy plans in place if something like this occurred (or if War broke out etc)

We have to treat the league as a 44 game season as Bury are not in the league. Therefore we have played 77% of our games. If that rule existing the season should finish as it is.

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If there are contingency plans then we should hear something soon. But based on the fact virtually no organisation or business seems to have a plan I suspect nobody really considered this possibility...


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I know from my experience in local football in years gone by there is a cut of percentage point as to when results are expunged or not don’t know if it’s 75%, I’ve known it used, but that was towards individual teams not whole leagues, it could come down to member clubs voting exactly which way to go which could benefit the better clubs in the league by getting the two top teams out the way and not replaced by possibly better teams coming down. Take our selfish position if there were no relegation three very good teams would be out the way but not replaced by teams armed with millions of pounds parachute money.

Section 12 from the Complete FA Handbook:

DETERMINING CHAMPIONSHIP
12. (A) Team rankings within the Competition will be decided by points with
points to be awarded for a win and points for a drawn match. The teams gaining the
highest number of points in their respective Divisions at the conclusion shall be adjudged
the winners. Matches must not be played for double points. In Mini Soccer points can only
be awarded for Under 9 Competitions onwards.
In the event of two or more teams being equal on points team rankings may be decided in
any one or more of the following ways:-
(i) goal average or goal diff erence
(ii) goals scored or deciding match(es) played under conditions determined by the
Management Committee.
(B) Automatic promotion and relegation shall be applied for the fi rst and
last teams in each Division except as provided for hereunder, subject
to the provisions of Rule 1(b).
(i) Should one or more teams withdraw from any one Division after the fi xtures have
commenced an equal number of teams to those withdrawing in that Division shall not
be automatically relegated.
(ii) Vacancies occurring after the conclusion of the season may be fi lled on any of the
following ways:
(a) retention of otherwise relegated team(s)
(b) additional promotion of the next ranked team(s) from the Division below
(c) election
(iii) The last teams in the lowest Division shall retire, but be eligible for
re-election except as below, and be subject to the conditions of paragraph (B)(i) above.
(iv) When a senior team is relegated to a lower Division of which its reserve team is a
member, or entitled to be a member, such reserve team must accept relegation to, or
retain its position in, the next lower Division; and should the senior team be relegated
to the lowest Division its reserve team automatically retires from the Competition.
(v) Should either or both of the leading teams in any of the Divisions have its senior team
in the next higher Division, promotion shall fall, at the discretion of the General Meeting,
to the next highest team or teams in the Division concerned.
(C) In the event of a team not completing 75% of its fi xtures for the season all points obtained
by or recorded against such defaulting team shall be expunged from the Competition table.
(D) Where a promotion and/or relegation link exists between Competitions
Clubs, providing they meet the appropriate grading criteria, will be eligible to make
application to the Competition at their Annual General Meeting.
Should the Champion Club not wish for promotion or, alternatively, not have the necessary
grading criteria, then the or place Club will be eligible under
the same conditions.
At the end of each season and depending on the geographical location of Clubs gaining
promotion to or being relegated from the Competition, it may
be necessary for the Competition either (a) to accept a Club from the
Competition, or (b) have a Club transferred to the same Competition.
The bottom Clubs in the Competition will
be relegated. Each relegated Club will be allocated either to the
Competition or to the Competition recommended as most
appropriate by the Joint Liaison Committee. Clubs will be promoted to the
Competition from the
Competition, and the Competition providing that each Club
is either the Champion Club or Runner-up or place Club and
has the necessary grading criteria.
In the event of there being no eligible Club wishing promotion or not having the necessary
grading criteria from any of the Competitions, this will reduce the number of Clubs to be
relegated from the Competition.
If only Clubs are eligible or wish for promotion, the bottom Clubs in the
Competition will be relegated. If only Club is
eligible or wishes promotion, only the bottom Club in the
Competition will be relegated.
If no Clubs are eligible, or wish for promotion, no Clubs will be relegated from the
Competition.
In the event of a Competition Club not being placed in the
bottom Clubs at the end of the season, wishing to resign from the Competition at
the end of the season, or having been excluded under Rule only Clubs
will be relegated at the end of the season.
In the event of a Competition Club opting to be relegated
or being relegated under Rule such Club or Clubs will replace the Club or Clubs
otherwise due for relegation.

Ring Of Steel said:

If you include Bury it’s less than 75%

But I agree with you.

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Bury didn’t accrue points. The league decided only one relegation place. Sorted.