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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Today at 7:18 AM
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So according to AI the general average requirement is 88 points for auto promotion - we have 29 games to play - we could in theory from 29 win 15 - draw 3 and lose another 11 and still go up - almost to the stage we can afford a bad run but still go up - i know it’s a figure of 88 but it feels about right - i am trying to justify things in my head in are we really going to make it -
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 8:16 AM
  • #2
Also according to AI no team 45 points or more at game 20 has failed to be promoted. 5 from the next 3?
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Today at 8:25 AM
  • #3
Fuck AI...this season is an absolute anomoly..the table is messed up from 2nd place to 2nd bottom.

Norwich and Sheff United wont be anywhere near bottom 3.

After that...its take yoir pick..its never been so tight or competitive.

I think title winners 90 points. 2nd place as low as 85.

But 3rd to 6th will be as high as 80 to 72

Also 3rd from bottom will go down on 50pts.

What do i know.
 

bawtryneal

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  • Today at 8:28 AM
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Londonccfcfan said:
Fuck AI...this season is an absolute anomoly..the table is messed up from 2nd place to 2nd bottom.

Norwich and Sheff United wont be anywhere near bottom 3.

After that...its take yoir pick..its never been so tight or competitive.

I think title winners 90 points. 2nd place as low as 85.

But 3rd to 6th will be as high as 80 to 72

Also 3rd from bottom will go down on 50pts.

What do i know.
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You obviously were never very good at maths
Only one team can get three points maximum every match
Everyone plays everyone twice.
 
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fatso

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  • Today at 8:37 AM
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BackRoomRummermill said:
So according to AI the general average requirement is 88 points for auto promotion - we have 29 games to play - we could in theory from 29 win 15 - draw 3 and lose another 11 and still go up - almost to the stage we can afford a bad run but still go up - i know it’s a figure of 88 but it feels about right - i am trying to justify things in my head in are we really going to make it -
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Let's just win every game and fuck AI
 
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bawtryneal

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  • Today at 9:13 AM
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Appreciate stating the obvious but the two games against both Ipswich and Southampton will define our destiny.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Today at 9:17 AM
  • #7
Londonccfcfan said:
Fuck AI...this season is an absolute anomoly..the table is messed up from 2nd place to 2nd bottom.

Norwich and Sheff United wont be anywhere near bottom 3.

After that...its take yoir pick..its never been so tight or competitive.

I think title winners 90 points. 2nd place as low as 85.

But 3rd to 6th will be as high as 80 to 72

Also 3rd from bottom will go down on 50pts.

What do i know.
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People said the same about Luton...... People said it about Leeds when they went down..... No doubt people said it about us too. Reputation and squad "value" doth butter no parsnips.
 

bawtryneal

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  • Today at 9:24 AM
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Norwich will get relegated in my opinion.
SUFC will finish around 10th.
 

bigfatronssba

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  • 56 minutes ago
  • #9
shmmeee said:
Also according to AI no team 45 points or more at game 20 has failed to be promoted. 5 from the next 3?
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I had a look back myself at some old league tables.

Last club to have 40+ points after 17 games and not go up was Bradford in 1988
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • 54 minutes ago
  • #10
Best price 1/7 for promotion.
 

Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • 52 minutes ago
  • #11
lets just finish the Job, and enjoy the ride
 
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fatso

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  • 50 minutes ago
  • #12
bawtryneal said:
Appreciate stating the obvious but the two games against both Ipswich and Southampton will define our destiny.
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Said that before the Stoke and Middlesbrough games.

Its games against poorer teams that have cost us points, Hull, Leicester, Norwich and Wrexham for example.

We actually play better against the better teams.
Last night Borough conceded 4 goals which is equal to what they've conceded at home all season, and yet we only started playing well in the last 15 minutes.

It was the same against WBA on Saturday, we played well for 15 minutes at the start of the second half and blew them away.

Against better teams we will just play well for a bit longer and blow them away too.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • 48 minutes ago
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Manchester_sky_blue said:
People said the same about Luton...... People said it about Leeds when they went down..... No doubt people said it about us too. Reputation and squad "value" doth butter no parsnips.
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The same will happen to Norwich if they take the same approach as Luton did, where they never seemed to act as if they were in a relegation battle until it was too late.

Successive windows of very poor recruitment and the squad stagnating led them to go down - the Jan window last season was the same where they just ended up bringing in players which weren't really quite good enough.

Norwich will likely need to invest, and invest well, in the coming window to put it right.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • 46 minutes ago
  • #14
Londonccfcfan said:
Fuck AI...this season is an absolute anomoly..the table is messed up from 2nd place to 2nd bottom.

Norwich and Sheff United wont be anywhere near bottom 3.

After that...its take yoir pick..its never been so tight or competitive.

I think title winners 90 points. 2nd place as low as 85.

But 3rd to 6th will be as high as 80 to 72

Also 3rd from bottom will go down on 50pts.

What do i know.
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Sheff Utd agree but Norwich are awful and will lose Sargent in January. I work with a Norwich fan and he's convinced they will be relegated.
 

Robinshio

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  • 14 minutes ago
  • #15
bigfatronssba said:
I had a look back myself at some old league tables.

Last club to have 40+ points after 17 games and not go up was Bradford in 1988
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was 87/88 season, they had 37 points from 17 games (so may need to look back further ??)

https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-division-two/05-november-1987/
 

bigfatronssba

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  • 8 minutes ago
  • #16
Robinshio said:
was 87/88 season, they had 37 points from 17 games (so may need to look back further ??)

https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-division-two/05-november-1987/
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You're right, I must've scrambled my brain by looking at decades of tables!
 

Gibbo

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  • 2 minutes ago
  • #17
All lost in the mists of time but in the 1963-64 promotion season we were absolutely pissing the league at Christmas when iirc we beat Barnsley 3-1 (I was there aged 10). We then went weeks without a win....

I think we even dropped out of the top 2, before a late revival saw is squeak in.

Counting chickens and all that
 

bigfatronssba

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  • A moment ago
  • #18
I've gone back to 1981. That is when 3 pts for a win come in, so its hard to compare before that.

Since then, 8 clubs managed to be on at least 40 points after 17 games. Every single one was promoted.
 
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shmmeee

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  • A moment ago
  • #19
bigfatronssba said:
I've gone back to 1981. That is when 3 pts for a win come in, so its hard to compare before that.

Since then, 8 clubs managed to be on at least 40 points after 17 games. Every single one was promoted.
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Who need ChatGPT? Great work
 
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