Ccfcisparks
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SERIOUS COPE!!!
SERIOUS COPE!!!Personally I thought it was an outstanding window. I don’t care if King didn’t.
It’s honestly pathetic. He was saying before Sheaf was sold that he should be starting ahead of Torp. We then sold Sheaf and didn’t replace him yet the transfer window is now considered outstanding. He doesn’t make any sense. If bling shagged his Mrs he’d probably congratulate himSERIOUS COPE!!!
Upon reflection, I’m not fussed about letting either player leave without bringing in replacements.I think my personal annoyance with the window, is that we never said no when we couldn’t get a replacement on the last day.
I honestly don’t mind Sheaf going and the amount was decent when you consider where he was but not holding firm until we got a replacement or likewise letting Rapha go when we knew Rak-Sai wasn’t coming seems very naive imo
Personally I thought it was an outstanding window. I don’t care if King didn’t.
Sheaf featured prominently in the pre season and was looking almost back to his best which leads me to believe the transfer fee offered was an unexpected opportunity that was just too good to turn down.It’s honestly pathetic. He was saying before Sheaf was sold that he should be starting ahead of Torp. We then sold Sheaf and didn’t replace him yet the transfer window is now considered outstanding. He doesn’t make any sense. If bling shagged his Mrs he’d probably congratulate him
My concern is the depth on the wing. I find it bonkers that people are happy with having to play Brau on the wing for example if there’s an injury.Sheaf featured prominently in the pre season and was looking almost back to his best which leads me to believe the transfer fee offered was an unexpected opportunity that was just too good to turn down.
I think the current situation could be better, we are in my opinion a signing short of adequate squad depth so we have to hope we can get by till January.
Spent a lot of time in preseason arguing that was the highest priority position… it took to the end of August to prove just how light we are.My concern is the depth on the wing. I find it bonkers that people are happy with having to play Brau on the wing for example if there’s an injury.
We may have wanted him for weeks for all you know. But palace wanted to bide then time before making a decisionIt’s idiotic that we decided Rak-Sakyi was the man but only at 11th hour on deadline day.
We had all summer to do that deal and spent it pissing about.
It seems to me we zeroed in on certain players and let ourselves get messed around instead of moving on several acceptable targets. It has left us short.
Do you think Lampard approved of the sale?
Depth for whom though? Grimes has missed 3 league games since the 2017/18 season.I don’t know. Just saying the line that “we didn’t sell anyone of consequence” isn’t quite true. A £6m player is not something to sniff at in terms of quality of depth. We probably made the best large sale we could though.
I'm sorry but you're completely missing the point here.We may have wanted him for weeks for all you know. But palace wanted to bide then time before making a decision
Fans need to stop acting like it's a simply black and white situation all the time. So much information and detail that we are not privvy too.
We've had a few like that, superstars in training, supershite in matchesMaybe andrews is showing in training that he can step in to replace sheaf it looked like he would be going on loan had sheaf not been sold
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That isn't what happened though? From the limited information we have the reason we went for him at the 11th hour is before that it looked like he was on his way to Celtic or Rangers and it was only when this broke down we thought we may have had a chance at him. So while we may have wanted him all summer it was only then we had a chance of signing him.It’s idiotic that we decided Rak-Sakyi was the man but only at 11th hour on deadline day.
We had all summer to do that deal and spent it pissing about.
It seems to me we zeroed in on certain players and let ourselves get messed around instead of moving on several acceptable targets. It has left us short.
Wasn't impressed with him in the cup against Millwall but haven't seen enough of him yet to know how good he is or can be but seems to have an engine on him to get up and down the pitch here's hoping he can become a regular we need to see a few more academy players breaking into the first team apart from Eccles not much else has come through sinceWe've had a few like that, superstars in training, supershite in matches
No idea what COPE means. You may not, but I do, remember the days when anyone and everyone of any value was sold for less than what that value was. Now I understand people crave shiny new things and get upset because endless links to never happening deals don’t emerge but you have to just accept it’s not that easy. We’ve retained millions of pounds of talent that we would have flogged on the cheap until very recently. If you can’t understand why I think that’s an outstanding window I can’t help you.It’s honestly pathetic. He was saying before Sheaf was sold that he should be starting ahead of Torp. We then sold Sheaf and didn’t replace him yet the transfer window is now considered outstanding. He doesn’t make any sense. If bling shagged his Mrs he’d probably congratulate him
Explain how you would start Sheaf ahead of Torp, then sell sheaf without replacing him, and we are better off? You’re the one that said you’d drop Torp, not me or anyone else on this forum. It’s not a hard questionNo idea what COPE means. You may not, but I do, remember the days when anyone and everyone of any value was sold for less than what that value was. Now I understand people crave shiny new things and get upset because endless links to never happening deals don’t emerge but you have to just accept it’s not that easy. We’ve retained millions of pounds of talent that we would have flogged on the cheap until very recently. If you can’t understand why I think that’s an outstanding window I can’t help you.
Depth for whom though? Grimes has missed 3 league games since the 2017/18 season.
In preseason, I raised some promising underlying stats of Torp’s performances last season and he’s performing above that level. The concern here is there isn’t a player who can do what Torp does in our squad. Eccles is something inbetween Torp and Grimes but does neither job as well. With Sheaf, better defensively that both Grimes and Torp but not as good as a playmaker.
Next season, we should be looking at revamping the CM position because we’ll presumably move Allen on and what we do with Eccles depends on what he does this season.
Ok. Let me break this down very very simply for you. If Sheaf was part of the squad, in the particular game we were talking about being Oxford away I would have started him ahead of Torp. He would have given us greater solidity and even bringing him on around 50 mins probably seals the win. Now, in a slightly different but linked world we are a business. When someone comes knocking saying here’s 6.5m for a player towards the end of their contract who is very injury prone you have to take it. Playing Sheaf ahead of Torp and selling him are not mutually exclusive. Do we have a stronger squad post window - yes we do.
You’re such a bullshitter. You weren’t on about just the Oxford game.It’s a very good point. We’re unbeaten. You’d never know it reading about today. If we can sign a good CH, bed in Brau and KKH and get Sheaf back in for Torp we’ll be fine. Torp can still have a huge impact but he’s not a 90 min performer at the moment.
How do you know we didn't try for say 3 big targets and then the drop off from 3rd to 4th in talent wasn't worth price?I'm sorry but you're completely missing the point here.
We may have wanted him weeks before, we may have moved on to him after missing out on Godo, it doesn't really matter.
What matters is we were crying out for attacking reinforcements since May. What has happened is we've let other clubs transfer policies dictate our own. We should have a comprehensive list on every position and profile containing a multitude of players.
You don't put all your eggs in one basket and then move onto the next when we're gazumped, you should be moving on several on that list at the same time until one comes. It's obvious that this didn't happen because we didn't sign anybody for that position in the 4 months that we had.
It's very poor transfer strategy and it's left us short.
OK, assume I wasn’t. I would start Sheaf over Torp. Your question is are we stronger? We’ve lost Rapha, Sheaf, Collins, Binks. We’ve added KKH, Brau, Woolfenden, Rushworth. We’re undoubtedly stronger post window. Plus the retention of key players which you seemingly cannot acknowledge/see the value in.You’re such a bullshitter. You weren’t on about just the Oxford game.
The value in retaining key players goes without saying and is pointless discussing as obviously that’s positive.OK, assume I wasn’t. I would start Sheaf over Torp. Your question is are we stronger? We’ve lost Rapha, Sheaf, Collins, Binks. We’ve added KKH, Brau, Woolfenden, Rushworth. We’re undoubtedly stronger post window. Plus the retention of key players which you seemingly cannot acknowledge/see the value in.
We’ve got the same options up front. That is undoubtedly true. But EMC has a season in the champ behind him. Saka looks an improved player and Rudoni has improved a lot. Midfield is weaker overall for losing Sheaf. Defence is very much stronger as is the goalkeeper. Overall it’s progress from last years squad.The value in retaining key players goes without saying and is pointless discussing as obviously that’s positive.
I’m saying by your logic, we have sold someone who should be starting ahead of Torp (that was your opinion which I quoted) the midfield is weaker now. Also wouldn’t you agree that we are no stronger than we were in the forward positions?
The concern I have is if EMC gets injured. We are relying on a completely unproven left back as a back up left winger. We have no depth on either side reallyWe’ve got the same options up front. That is undoubtedly true. But EMC has a season in the champ behind him. Saka looks an improved player and Rudoni has improved a lot. Midfield is weaker overall for losing Sheaf. Defence is very much stronger as is the goalkeeper. Overall it’s progress from last years squad.
You put Wright there and then Simms or BTA down the centreThe concern I have is if EMC gets injured. We are relying on a completely unproven left back as a back up left winger. We have no depth on either side really
I don’t think he would put Wright there. He sees him as a central striker onlyYou put Wright there and then Simms or BTA down the centre
I would rather put Wright out wide where he's just as big a threat and put a recognised forward down the middle, than start making it up out left to keep Wright in the centre.I don’t think he would put Wright there. He sees him as a central striker only
We’re not dependant on that. Wright would play left with either BTA or Simms up front. Or play BTA left.The concern I have is if EMC gets injured. We are relying on a completely unproven left back as a back up left winger. We have no depth on either side really
We had a transfer budget for the window. I suspect we only gave up Hughes and Nielsen on the Sunday evening. In doing so it freed up funds for another signing, and Rak Saki was one of the ones we went for but probably not the only one.
We didn’t wait 4 months to act, we swapped targets when we could not land our initial targets.
And if King bought the stadium, upgraded the training facilities, and facilitated the best squad we have had in 20 years, playing in front of sold out stadiums with a huge variety of City merchandise you would still criticise him …It’s honestly pathetic. He was saying before Sheaf was sold that he should be starting ahead of Torp. We then sold Sheaf and didn’t replace him yet the transfer window is now considered outstanding. He doesn’t make any sense. If bling shagged his Mrs he’d probably congratulate him
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