hill83
Well-Known Member
Fair fucking play to your mate. And dare I say it, Gilbert.
Gotta weigh in on that last paragraph
The council let so many things slide with wasps. Safety Certificates being one, any non morally bankrupt council would have had that place shut down by 2018 as it was literally unsafe with things such as certain electrics etc in there.
The bailouts which were public were bad enough, but the cloak and dagger behaviour and covering up of things such as emails etc was as bad
And I know il probably get the 'oh its saddle bollocks again', if so fair enough. But as I said at the time wasps went tits, a good friend of mine worked for CCC for years, and he could not believe just what the council were doing for them, and letting them get away with, just to save face on their "city of rugby" cock up. They knew theyd nailed their colours to the wrong mast within 3 years and couldnt be seen to fail
This is why he contacted Gilbert and informed him of the meeting that had taken place in which it was discussed and almost agreed, to bailouts wasps out with Coventry Taxpayer money in November 2022. He had enough of it, and if it cost him his job so be it. That is why Gilbert spilled the beans, that is why everyone turned so quick, and that is why wasps failed when they did. Luckily he didnt lose his job as they couldnt prove it was him who tipped the press off, he has since left and the stories he has from the whole sorry debacle are enough to make skin crawl
Duggins, Lucas, Maton et al are absolute scum, who should be matched through the city and pelted with fruit
How Duggins is still Council leader makes my blood boil
I can’t see that one. Think we are stuck with himAnd Collins
Of course we all know that clubs renting football stadiums never end up in rent disputes and playing in another fucking city.
Your mate set the wheels in motion for where we are now. Assuming he's a fan himself he should be extremely proud of that.Gotta weigh in on that last paragraph
The council let so many things slide with wasps. Safety Certificates being one, any non morally bankrupt council would have had that place shut down by 2018 as it was literally unsafe with things such as certain electrics etc in there.
The bailouts which were public were bad enough, but the cloak and dagger behaviour and covering up of things such as emails etc was as bad
And I know il probably get the 'oh its saddle bollocks again', if so fair enough. But as I said at the time wasps went tits, a good friend of mine worked for CCC for years, and he could not believe just what the council were doing for them, and letting them get away with, just to save face on their "city of rugby" cock up. They knew theyd nailed their colours to the wrong mast within 3 years and couldnt be seen to fail
This is why he contacted Gilbert and informed him of the meeting that had taken place in which it was discussed and almost agreed, to bailouts wasps out with Coventry Taxpayer money in November 2022. He had enough of it, and if it cost him his job so be it. That is why Gilbert spilled the beans, that is why everyone turned so quick, and that is why wasps failed when they did. Luckily he didnt lose his job as they couldnt prove it was him who tipped the press off, he has since left and the stories he has from the whole sorry debacle are enough to make skin crawl
Duggins, Lucas, Maton et al are absolute scum, who should be matched through the city and pelted with fruit
How Duggins is still Council leader makes my blood boil
Definitely owe your mate a pint. Who knows where we’d be if wasps got that deal agreedGotta weigh in on that last paragraph
The council let so many things slide with wasps. Safety Certificates being one, any non morally bankrupt council would have had that place shut down by 2018 as it was literally unsafe with things such as certain electrics etc in there.
The bailouts which were public were bad enough, but the cloak and dagger behaviour and covering up of things such as emails etc was as bad
And I know il probably get the 'oh its saddle bollocks again', if so fair enough. But as I said at the time wasps went tits, a good friend of mine worked for CCC for years, and he could not believe just what the council were doing for them, and letting them get away with, just to save face on their "city of rugby" cock up. They knew theyd nailed their colours to the wrong mast within 3 years and couldnt be seen to fail
This is why he contacted Gilbert and informed him of the meeting that had taken place in which it was discussed and almost agreed, to bailouts wasps out with Coventry Taxpayer money in November 2022. He had enough of it, and if it cost him his job so be it. That is why Gilbert spilled the beans, that is why everyone turned so quick, and that is why wasps failed when they did. Luckily he didnt lose his job as they couldnt prove it was him who tipped the press off, he has since left and the stories he has from the whole sorry debacle are enough to make skin crawl
Duggins, Lucas, Maton et al are absolute scum, who should be matched through the city and pelted with fruit
How Duggins is still Council leader makes my blood boil
Gotta weigh in on that last paragraph
The council let so many things slide with wasps. Safety Certificates being one, any non morally bankrupt council would have had that place shut down by 2018 as it was literally unsafe with things such as certain electrics etc in there.
The bailouts which were public were bad enough, but the cloak and dagger behaviour and covering up of things such as emails etc was as bad
And I know il probably get the 'oh its saddle bollocks again', if so fair enough. But as I said at the time wasps went tits, a good friend of mine worked for CCC for years, and he could not believe just what the council were doing for them, and letting them get away with, just to save face on their "city of rugby" cock up. They knew theyd nailed their colours to the wrong mast within 3 years and couldnt be seen to fail
This is why he contacted Gilbert and informed him of the meeting that had taken place in which it was discussed and almost agreed, to bailouts wasps out with Coventry Taxpayer money in November 2022. He had enough of it, and if it cost him his job so be it. That is why Gilbert spilled the beans, that is why everyone turned so quick, and that is why wasps failed when they did. Luckily he didnt lose his job as they couldnt prove it was him who tipped the press off, he has since left and the stories he has from the whole sorry debacle are enough to make skin crawl
Duggins, Lucas, Maton et al are absolute scum, who should be matched through the city and pelted with fruit
How Duggins is still Council leader makes my blood boil
Definitely owe your mate a pint. Who knows where we’d be if wasps got that deal agreed
No offence to yourself but agree to disagree on thisThere was never any chance of any deal being agreed.
Hope so.So Wolfy and Godo for the two ins with Bassette leaving?
No offence to yourself but agree to disagree on this
We also need to remember it’s a long time until Jan - it won’t all be like Saturday.So Wolfy and Godo for the two ins with Bassette leaving?
The Council were 100% willing to see the football club die to spite SISU. Absolute fact.
Imagine hes one we might look at if Wolf doesn’t come or if we lose Bobby Thomas as then we’ll need two.
Not reference to us but it does say baggies want to offload Caleb Taylor who we were linked with
IMO it was more about saving face on what was clearly at disastrous idea. I don’t think they’re all CCFC haters - but the wasps project going tits up coupled with personal vendettas (arguably deserved) against SISU meant they were entrenched. They weren’t against CCFC but our owners definitely shit on what project they envisioned for the city (city of rugby etc)Right. So the council do in fact go above and beyond to support local sports teams and the idea they are all secret CCFC haters was nonsense as I said then? Good stuff.
Odd that we would be after him, if he's not wanted at Albion
Not reference to us but it does say baggies want to offload Caleb Taylor who we were linked with
Your mate set the wheels in motion for where we are now. Assuming he's a fan himself he should be extremely proud of that.
Nice to see the whistle blowers not get the blame for a changeHe is indeed. Season ticket holder in block 15, has been for a while
He is indeed. Season ticket holder in block 15, has been for a while
IMO it was more about saving face on what was clearly at disastrous idea. I don’t think they’re all CCFC haters - but the wasps project going tits up coupled with personal vendettas (arguably deserved) against SISU meant they were entrenched. They weren’t against CCFC but our owners definitely shit on what project they envisioned for the city (city of rugby etc)
You know as well as I do the council’s meddling started way before SISU. In fact they were massively involved in the process that led to SISU coming in.Do you think if Sisu never existed Wasps would ever have come? The council were faced with a hostile club that was refusing any serious negotiations and an asset eating millions a year which is a major part of the local economy and looked like disappearing. And major sports franchises needing a ground in a new area don’t come around every day. Frankly if they hadn’t taken Wasps up or even sought them out it would have been negligent as a local authority an as an asset holder with a fiduciary duty to tax payers. The wish on here seems to be they’d have just handed the freehold over when asked and anything short of that is proof of their evilness and how they say there twiddling their moustaches. Every single council member regardless of political affiliation voted for what happened because when you take your sky blue specs off and look at it rationally it was the only thing they could have done.
Setting up some stupid and frankly mostly politically motivated divide between the club and the council, forever is just stupid. The club will need to work with its local authority to maximise its potential just like any major enterprise. People are just going to have to accept that. They are very lucky that unlike most major enterprises most people they encounter will feel very warmly towards them and they’d have to be particularly stupid thundercunts to push past that good will and force people to put their actual job first.
We think MVE is staying then? Can’t imagine that was the plan but leaves us very strong in that position. Can’t imagine KKH will be happy about it.
The Council were 100% willing to see the football club die to spite SISU. Absolute fact.
Surely that's a huge misrepresentation - if we've got (say) a 250 year lease, how much rent are we paying? Maybe there's a ground rent or something, but that's not at all the same as paying rent to Frasers.To be clear we are still a football club renting a stadium. We’re just renting it for a very long time.
We think MVE is staying then? Can’t imagine that was the plan but leaves us very strong in that position. Can’t imagine KKH will be happy about it.
Well kind of, but not really.We’re just renting it for a very long time.
Well kind of, but not really.
Would you prefer to live in / be afforded significantly more security living in a leasehold house that you have a mortgage on, rather than a house which is part of a buy to let landlords portfolio?
Quite a few other football clubs lease their stadium land from the council; Newcastle and also (I think?) Notts Forest.
One site has us & Burnley linked with a Canadian right back who is currently playing for FC MontrealI think we won’t know until after deadline day. If an offer comes in that’s deemed good enough and we stand to make a decent profit, he’ll be sold and the money reinvested.
I would love it if he stayed though. Also gives KKH a bit of settling in time and a little less pressure.
I think we won’t know until after deadline day. If an offer comes in that’s deemed good enough and we stand to make a decent profit, he’ll be sold and the money reinvested.
I would love it if he stayed though. Also gives KKH a bit of settling in time and a little less pressure.
I think we won’t know until after deadline day. If an offer comes in that’s deemed good enough and we stand to make a decent profit, he’ll be sold and the money reinvested.
I would love it if he stayed though. Also gives KKH a bit of settling in time and a little less pressure.
I mean I’d never get a mortgage on a leasehold
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