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shmmeee

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  • Today at 10:18 AM
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s on a different level to us of course but the Tottenham stadium is owned by the club and has transformed its value.
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At the pl level I can see it. Also a ground in London. As I said at this level with the NEC nearby and transport links is it apples and apples? I have no idea because for the eighteenth time I’m a football club fan not a stadium management company fan.
 

peteCCFC

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  • Today at 10:18 AM
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Lamps said:
The previous owners of the arena didn't buy it for the benefit of who it was built for. On top of that we're getting our best attendances since the days JH made HR an all seater stadium. Our city is buzzing. If there's a time and an owner to make the arena a success it's now. If it still makes a loss but it's less than the rent would be we're still up and are safer than we've been for many years.
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Our City is buzzing? It's actually as shit as its ever been, apart from a new vape shop, a bookies and 14 new barber shops.
The busiest part of the city is the fountains in town where people take their kids to wash.
We are straved of success and have nothing to do, I wouldn't call that buzzing.
Don't you live in France?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 10:19 AM
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shmmeee said:
I’m not reiterating this but they went to Wasps because we said we wanted the freehold and not a long lease. It’s not ever been SBT psychosis that the council gave wasps something that wasn’t on offer to CCFC. Sisu just refused to pay for it at every turn.
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Was a 250 year lease on offer to the club?
 

clint van damme

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  • Today at 10:20 AM
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peteCCFC said:
Our City is buzzing? It's actually as shit as its ever been, apart from a new vape shop, a bookies and 14 new barber shops.
The busiest part of the city is the fountains in town where people take their kids to wash.
We are straved of success and have nothing to do, I wouldn't call that buzzing.
Don't you live in France?
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It's buzzing if you like vaping, gambling and a fresh trim.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 10:21 AM
  • #15,720
clint van damme said:
Was a 250 year lease on offer to the club?
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Sisu repeatedly said they didn’t want it and just wanted the freehold and not ACL. Every meeting Joy said this. Every public statement Joy and Fisher said this. So yeah.
 

Jamesimus

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  • Today at 10:23 AM
  • #15,721
Ccfcisparks said:
I'm lost for words.
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That’s a bloody first!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 10:23 AM
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shmmeee said:
Sisu repeatedly said they didn’t want it and just wanted the freehold and not ACL. Every meeting Joy said this. Every public statement Joy and Fisher said this. So yeah.
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I'm fairly sure they didn't get offered 250 years. Even wasps didn't initially .

And I think the way it turned out just shows that the council made a complete arse of things.

Though none of that really has anything to do with where we are now and your concerns about owning the stadium, which I think are unfounded
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 10:27 AM
  • #15,723
clint van damme said:
I'm fairly sure they didn't get offered 250 years. Even wasps didn't initially .

And I think the way it turned out just shows that the council made a complete arse of things.

Though none of that really has anything to do with where we are now and your concerns about owning the stadium, which I think are unfounded
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No conversations happened because Sisu only wanted the freehold. They didn’t think the leasehold was worth having. The council were always happy to sell ACL and in fact had to once CCFC left. Sisu hoped they would sell the freehold but councils don’t generally. Wasps understood this basic fact of local authorities, didn’t try and get it through court, and made and offer and got it. The football club could have done that at every time but every time it was mentioned they said they wanted the freehold. “Two turkeys doesn’t make an eagle” and all that.

The real problem it seems was Sisu were skint a needed it for free. By the time tha changed Ashley was on the scene.

I know we love to hate a politician on here but the SBT lore on this is just insane. The idea there were teams of evil councillors plotting against the club they support was always up there with GIMOCS contrails for biggest conspiracy nonsense on here.
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 10:29 AM
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Am I the only one who’s not jonesing to see Doug King sell the club? We’re in a strong position on the pitch, seemingly financially secure off it….maybe I’m just risk averse but I don’t really want to trade it all for some bloke from overseas who claims to be a billionaire and wants to turn us into an advert for their petrostate/VC firm/streaming service/energy drink of choice.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Today at 10:30 AM
  • #15,725
shmmeee said:
No conversations happened because Sisu only wanted the freehold. They didn’t think the leasehold was worth having. The council were always happy to sell ACL and in fact had to once CCFC left. Sisu hoped they would sell the freehold but councils don’t generally. Wasps understood this basic fact of local authorities, didn’t try and get it through court, and made and offer and got it. The football club could have done that at every time but every time it was mentioned they said they wanted the freehold. “Two turkeys doesn’t make an eagle” and all that.

The real problem it seems was Sisu were skint a needed it for free. By the time tha changed Ashley was on the scene.

I know we love to hate a politician on here but the SBT lore on this is just insane. The idea there were teams of evil councillors plotting against the club they support was always up there with GIMOCS contrails for biggest conspiracy nonsense on here.
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I don’t think anyone thinks they were “evil” councillors and I think that in their own minds, their intentions were good. They were just stupid, stubborn eejits.
 
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Deity

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  • Today at 10:32 AM
  • #15,726
shmmeee said:
I don’t know. Is a business that loses £6m a year and has £10m less attractive than a company that loses £12m a year and has £60m debt? You’re the accountant.
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I wouldn’t trust you to run a bath let alone a business and certainly not a football club that I love ….
 
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CovRes

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  • Today at 10:34 AM
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SBT said:
Am I the only one who’s not jonesing to see Doug King sell the club? We’re in a strong position on the pitch, seemingly financially secure off it….maybe I’m just risk averse but I don’t really want to trade it all for some bloke from overseas who claims to be a billionaire and wants to turn us into an advert for their petrostate/VC firm/streaming service/energy drink of choice.
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I'm not sure people want him to sell. It's just assumed that his plan is to increase the value of his investment and sell.
He's rich, but not rich enough to indulge in owning a football club as a hobby.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Today at 10:40 AM
  • #15,728
shmmeee said:
No conversations happened because Sisu only wanted the freehold. They didn’t think the leasehold was worth having. The council were always happy to sell ACL and in fact had to once CCFC left. Sisu hoped they would sell the freehold but councils don’t generally. Wasps understood this basic fact of local authorities, didn’t try and get it through court, and made and offer and got it. The football club could have done that at every time but every time it was mentioned they said they wanted the freehold. “Two turkeys doesn’t make an eagle” and all that.

The real problem it seems was Sisu were skint a needed it for free. By the time tha changed Ashley was on the scene.

I know we love to hate a politician on here but the SBT lore on this is just insane. The idea there were teams of evil councillors plotting against the club they support was always up there with GIMOCS contrails for biggest conspiracy nonsense on here.
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Some councillors wanted to loan Wasp millions when they were going bust so they could save face, wanted to kick the academy out of the Higgs to build a kicking barn, Mutton stated he would never sell his stadium to the football club. Ann Lucas someething about not allowing the club to own it over her dead body. We are now a City of Rugby.All crooks.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 10:42 AM
  • #15,729
shmmeee said:
At the pl level I can see it. Also a ground in London. As I said at this level with the NEC nearby and transport links is it apples and apples? I have no idea because for the eighteenth time I’m a football club fan not a stadium management company fan.
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I did actually help to stage a conference at the NEC last year, it looks pretty dated and in need of some serious refurbishment itself. Excellent transport links though. Tottenham's ground has Wembley and the Emirates close by as 'competition' for example.

My gut feeling is if you can make it work it's far more of a strength and a weakness. The issue has been that Wasps had no clue about running such a venue, nor did their predecessors. Frasers however have at least paid to repair the neglect and I assume that King will look to appoint people with the relevant expertise.

All that aside, I just don't see how the club can't be more appealing to buyers with the stadium included.
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Today at 10:45 AM
  • #15,730
shmmeee said:
I know we love to hate a politician on here but the SBT lore on this is just insane. The idea there were teams of evil councillors plotting against the club they support was always up there with GIMOCS contrails for biggest conspiracy nonsense on here.
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Like I said at the time and I’ll repeat it now.

No council in the entire country would’ve done what Coventry’s did to their own football club.

They let personal feelings get in the way of what their job is-represent the people of Coventry.

Their opinions were heavily influenced by outsiders with damaging agendas and instead of remaining neutral they were hugely biased.

Their many decisions nearly mortally wounded their own city’s football club-all out of spite.

Who else hires a publicity team from London to infiltrate a supporter message board to sway opinion!

So yeah fuckin evil councillors is not even a close enough description.


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Lamps

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  • Today at 10:46 AM
  • #15,731
shmmeee said:
Complete aside but also fuck all the way off with prompting the Doug King song after the announcement and unless I missed it dropping Take Me Home Highfield Road from the playlist.
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King has done an amazing job with us. Who would have seen us playing to around 30,000 a game, goals flying in all over the place and finally owning OUR stadium within such a short time?

If King didn't deserve a song playing at home for the 1st time after buying our home then who does?
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 10:49 AM
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peteCCFC said:
Our City is buzzing? It's actually as shit as its ever been, apart from a new vape shop, a bookies and 14 new barber shops.
The busiest part of the city is the fountains in town where people take their kids to wash.
We are straved of success and have nothing to do, I wouldn't call that buzzing.
Don't you live in France?
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OK I should have said football supporters in our city would be buzzing
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 10:53 AM
  • #15,733
Jamesimus said:
They were just stupid, stubborn eejits.
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That's a bit polite. Would you like another attempt?
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Today at 11:07 AM
  • #15,734
Speedie's Head said:
Absolutely agree. You could see it in the players' contracts. Until recently we had nobody with a contract beyond the five years, that's beginning to change now and King has probably decided to make a longer game of it.
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Where are the 5 year contracts? Aren’t they 4 for the recent signing?
 
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Viktor17

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  • Today at 11:09 AM
  • #15,735
Anyway, any transfer news?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 11:12 AM
  • #15,736
SBT said:
Am I the only one who’s not jonesing to see Doug King sell the club? We’re in a strong position on the pitch, seemingly financially secure off it….maybe I’m just risk averse but I don’t really want to trade it all for some bloke from overseas who claims to be a billionaire and wants to turn us into an advert for their petrostate/VC firm/streaming service/energy drink of choice.
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I just think it's inevitable and he will have an exit strategy that I don't see going much further than another few years.
Of course, given the amount of dodgy owners there are in football, who he sells it to could be a worry.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Today at 11:12 AM
  • #15,737
Flying Fokker said:
Where are the 5 year contracts? Aren’t they 4 for the recent signing?
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Grimes got 3 1/2 years so I think off the top of my head that only the new signings take King beyond his 5 year plan. KKH got 4 years. My thinking is that is when he decided that he was in it for longer but who knows really. We do have an issue brewing with a cliff edge of contracts ending at the same time but we're not there yet.
 

clint van damme

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  • Today at 11:14 AM
  • #15,738
Fergusons_Beard said:
Like I said at the time and I’ll repeat it now.

No council in the entire country would’ve done what Coventry’s did to their own football club.

They let personal feelings get in the way of what their job is-represent the people of Coventry.

Their opinions were heavily influenced by outsiders with damaging agendas and instead of remaining neutral they were hugely biased.

Their many decisions nearly mortally wounded their own city’s football club-all out of spite.

Who else hires a publicity team from London to infiltrate a supporter message board to sway opinion!

So yeah fuckin evil councillors is not even a close enough description.


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They handed a 250 year lease to a rugby club whose position everyone knew was unsustainable. If nothing else that's huge incompetence.
They then made plans to bail them out with our money until they got rumbled.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Today at 11:15 AM
  • #15,739
Lamps said:
That's a bit polite. Would you like another attempt?
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Absolute twats?
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Today at 11:26 AM
  • #15,740
shmmeee said:
Complete aside but also fuck all the way off with prompting the Doug King song after the announcement and unless I missed it dropping Take Me Home Highfield Road from the playlist.
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Geez give it a rest man.
 
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procdoc

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  • Today at 12:18 PM
  • #15,741
shmmeee said:
I have no idea
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Just leave it at that mate
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 1:05 PM
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 1:13 PM
  • #15,743
SkyBlueDom26 said:
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Looks like it’s only if Collins goes and I haven’t seen anyone linked for him
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Today at 1:15 PM
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Anybody know of this fella

Coventry City and Burnley rival European clubs for 21-year-old full-back News: The72 - Football League News

Coventry City are expecting a busy end to this summer window after a quiet start, with on Jahkeele Marshall-Rutty their shortlist.
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Alkhen

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  • Today at 1:30 PM
  • #15,745
shmmeee said:
Like I see the theory. As King says every club wants to build a ground with an exhibition hall and a hotel and do concerts and we have that. I just think ultimately success on the pitch gets you much more and the arena success is off the back of that. This stadium in L1 isn’t much use as we saw, in the PL it may be a huge asset, but we’ve got to get there.

I just can’t get over how everyone who has owned it has failed or given up. Is it too close to the NEC? Is transport lacking? Or has it just been badly run or as King suggests needs a brand identity? I’m not sure.
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I've lost track of the list of previous owners but the council had way more on their plate and obviously couldn't pay decent money to attract top level people to run the arena. The WASPs project was doomed to fail from the off and I have the feeling Frasers lost interest pretty quick and knew they could just flog it for a profit.

I get your reservations but Doug knows he's got to make it work, it'll get way more attention than it has before. Hopefully he can pull it off. Just the knowledge that the money you spend there goes to the club might bring people in earlier to empty their wallets pre match.
 

Alkhen

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  • Today at 1:39 PM
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Owning the stadium must make us about as ripe a prospect for a takeover as any club in the country now? Not sure I could stomach an American much less a Saudi prince
 
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Deity

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  • Today at 1:45 PM
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Ccfcisparks said:
Looks like it’s only if Collins goes and I haven’t seen anyone linked for him
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Liverpool have linked with him over the last 2 weeks
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Today at 2:29 PM
  • #15,748
Skybluedownunder said:
Anybody know of this fella

Coventry City and Burnley rival European clubs for 21-year-old full-back News: The72 - Football League News

Coventry City are expecting a busy end to this summer window after a quiet start, with on Jahkeele Marshall-Rutty their shortlist.
the72.co.uk


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Surely not another right back.
 
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HJones23

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  • Today at 2:29 PM
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For anyone hoping he would end up on loan with us this year (me included in that) bit of reality check if that’s the level of team in for him
 

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procdoc

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HJones23 said:
For anyone hoping he would end up on loan with us this year (me included in that) bit of reality check if that’s the level of team in for him
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I don’t know why anyone thought that he’s a realistic target tbh
 
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