TomRad85
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I don't think that smug yank twat has finished blowing his wad yet but hopefully they completely fuck it. Horrible bunch.
I don't think that smug yank twat has finished blowing his wad yet but hopefully they completely fuck it. Horrible bunch.Birmingham can't really do what they are doing unless the get promoted in the next couple of seasons which they don't look like they are at that level yet.
But we have a great team already, one that finished 5th and only lost in the play offs (to the team that won promotion) because of a bad back pass and a 121 minute lack of concentration from a shattered set of players.
We don't need many players, just quality to add depth with he have been doing.
Also where does the money come from for your "going for it" without us selling Rudi etc? CCFC is a loss making company and there is not endless reserves of money.
I don’t understand what he wants. I certainly don’t want us spunking millions on over the hill players like Moore and Coady. I also don’t want us cutting horrendous deals like the one for DoyleHe's the same age as Harry Darling and unlike Darling he's actually achieved what we ultimately want to, yet Darling became a forum darling.. if you will. I think some people get names in their heads and get stuck on it
we are bidding a similar amount to that for players now.We bid £7m for Hughes and £6m for Rushworth. We just sold Binks for £2.5m and had Gyokeres sell on fee for somewhere around £2.5m-3m… that’s where!
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If it buys them Championship survival then I guess they would consider its money we'll spent, especially when the money appears to be coming from wealthy investors, rather that the clubs overdraft.wouldn't want them at the price they have paid for them
I think that would be a stupid conclusion. We clearly swatted away interest for both Rudoni and Thomas as selling to league rivals would be suicidal despite what some on here thought. We were probably most open to selling MvE but we won't sell low and rightly so.I suppose it could be considered fair game to come to the conclusion that the club has tried to raise money by selling either MVE, Rudoni or Thomas in that order having first bought KKH as an MVE replacement. There does appear to be a chain of players in the news since a highest bid for MVE hasn't materialised, Rudoni seemingly wants to stay and now Thomas is the latest news celebrity. I would like to think we are standing firm and are not in a position of needing to sell (aside from Binks)
It will put us in a challenging transfer position next summer with a good number of players entering the last year of their contracts. Thomas, MVE, Kitching, Simms, Sheaf just off the top of my head. If we don't go up and they don't want to stick around you've got to then accept some pretty lowball offers or lose them for nothing later on.I think that would be a stupid conclusion. We clearly swatted away interest for both Rudoni and Thomas as selling to league rivals would be suicidal despite what some on here thought. We were probably most open to selling MvE but we won't sell low and rightly so.
Despite getting 2 clueless poo poo's i actually agree with you.Signing Woolfenden and the Fulham winger for me wouldn’t be a good window. It would be below my expectations of a team ‘going for it’
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Fair play slipping Simms in and thinking i wouldn't noticeIt will put us in a challenging transfer position next summer with a good number of players entering the last year of their contracts. Thomas, MVE, Kitching, Simms, Sheaf just off the top of my head. If we don't go up and they don't want to stick around you've got to then accept some pretty lowball offers or lose them for nothing later on.
I think theres two points on that A) The window isn’t done so we have no idea if there will be more outfield signings than the two here. If we sign Woolf and the Fulham winger, the point becomes a bit more moot.I think you’ve got to ask questions about the spend on KKH if MvE going wasn’t cast iron, and if it meant no other improvements outfield. You can justify each thing on its own but Doug and Deans job is to see the overall picture and I’m not sure its worked out this summer.
AgreedCallum Doyle
Lewis O'brien
Nathan Broadhead
Keiffer Moore
All get in our squad tbf
Well that’s a lie, you haven’t got any mates!
Woolfenden is not a bench player. He played majority of games in a promotion winning team and then played a lot of games in the premier league.Despite getting 2 clueless poo poo's i actually agree with you.
Both Woolfenden and Godo are bench players, being brought in to add cover rather than to improve our first 11.
They may be far better than Binks or Raphael, but the squad improvement would be incremental rather than substantial.
And the cost disproportionate.
we are bidding a similar amount to that for players now.
we also have to put some of the incoming money towards the cost of running the club, we lose what is it 6 million a year? King can't fund that for ever.
Fighting a losing battle. Many on here expect him to fund losses and multiple million pound transfers just because he is the ownerwe are bidding a similar amount to that for players now.
we also have to put some of the incoming money towards the cost of running the club, we lose what is it 6 million a year? King can't fund that for ever.
He would be first choice. He is better than Thomas for a start.I just don’t want us to spunk money in panic mode on Woolfenden if he isn’t ’the one’ sort of thing.
This Hughes player sounded really promising and had a potential strong on sale value.
Don’t know how much we’ve bid for Woolfenden but if it’s above £4m I’d rather us just look for a loan to cover for the short term until Jan seeming as we are now late into the summer and teams are likely not wanting to sell at this late.
A loan would be more ideal in my eyes. Didn’t Burnley have a huge stock of centre backs or have they cleared a few of them out now?
I swear I read Alfie Gilchrist could go for £1m, could offer cover for both CB and RB.
Would rather us pay £1m for Gilchrist or ideally get him on loan if it’s only going to be cover anyways if we aren’t selling Thomas than spend over and above £4m on Woolfenden
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It's led by the mob who think that Doug King should bankroll the transfer window spending shed loads of money at whatever inflated price the selling club puts on the playerYeah, I’d hate to think of their combined wages as well !
Cant understand why posters are getting upset when the windows not closed yet and current team/squad is pretty decent. Yeah, we’re probably a couple light if the window closed today but let’s at least see what shakes out over next week or so before passing judgement.
Id imagine there’s some of same people complaining about not getting transfers done who complained about us overpaying for Kitching. Make your minds up lads
Reports in January suggested we were looking at him even then which doesn't scream panic mode but it looks like you've decided.I just don’t want us to spunk money in panic mode on Woolfenden if he isn’t ’the one’ sort of thing.
This Hughes player sounded really promising and had a potential strong on sale value.
Don’t know how much we’ve bid for Woolfenden but if it’s above £4m I’d rather us just look for a loan to cover for the short term until Jan seeming as we are now late into the summer and teams are likely not wanting to sell at this late.
A loan would be more ideal in my eyes. Didn’t Burnley have a huge stock of centre backs or have they cleared a few of them out now?
I swear I read Alfie Gilchrist could go for £1m, could offer cover for both CB and RB.
Would rather us pay £1m for Gilchrist or ideally get him on loan if it’s only going to be cover anyways if we aren’t selling Thomas than spend over and above £4m on Woolfenden
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He did in the championship but lets not be ridiculous about a lot of games in the prem. He played the equivalent of 13 full games.Woolfenden is not a bench player. He played majority of games in a promotion winning team and then played a lot of games in the premier league.
It's not fair game to assume that the club ever considered selling Rudoni. There was a derisory speculative bid which was rejected out of handI suppose it could be considered fair game to come to the conclusion that the club has tried to raise money by selling either MVE, Rudoni or Thomas in that order having first bought KKH as an MVE replacement. There does appear to be a chain of players in the news since a highest bid for MVE hasn't materialised, Rudoni seemingly wants to stay and now Thomas is the latest news celebrity. I would like to think we are standing firm and are not in a position of needing to sell (aside from Binks)
Of course improvements are going to be incremental, we finished 5th and didn't make any big sales.Despite getting 2 clueless poo poo's i actually agree with you.
Both Woolfenden and Godo are bench players, being brought in to add cover rather than to improve our first 11.
They may be far better than Binks or Raphael, but the squad improvement would be incremental rather than substantial.
And the cost disproportionate.
We can't go and absolutely spunk our load without a significant sale, I’m not sure what we want at this point?
We cannot do what Birmingham are doing and neither should we look to, it’s completely reckless.
Reports in January suggested we were looking at him even then which doesn't scream panic mode but it looks like you've decided.
Limited upside. If we got promoted with Hughes hes instantly worth £20m+.I would rather Woolfenden than Hughes if I'm honest. Promotion team proven
The challenge is going to be about playing time with anyone worth their salt. Either the new signing becomes first choice, or you regularly rotate the CB pairing. Both cases you're going to get people unhappy with playing time.I would rather Woolfenden than Hughes if I'm honest. Promotion team proven
1. Birmingham's owners are much richer than Doug (and Wrexham's).Tbf I’ve been wondering this for a while, I’ve been told by a few people on here that we can’t spend more than we’ve generated (don’t shoot the messenger if I’m wrong), but why is that Wrexham and Birmingham can come up to the championship with celebrity backing and attempt to buy the league? They’re clearly not creating more money than they’re spending.
Is it that people think we shouldn’t spend more money than we generate or is it that people think we simply aren’t allowed to spend money? Because Doug surely has loads of cash himself, if he’s injecting it then does that count as a debt for the club itself? If I gave away £10 million to the club would that make the club £10m in debt to me? Even if I don’t want the money back? I’m genuinely unsure how this all works because it seems Birmingham and Wrexham can buy whoever they want but whenever someone suggests spending money a load of people seem very against it
But you would advocate buying Hughes at £20M , this being what you have already definitively stated is the current value of the player which at the lowest of your valuation is no profit at all.Limited upside. If we got promoted with Hughes hes instantly worth £20m+.
Woolfenden is limited on his potential value. For the right price though I don't mind the signing.
I would advocate paying £10m for Hughes.But you would advocate buying Hughes at £20M , this being what you have already definitively stated is the current value of the player which at the lowest of your valuation is no profit at all.
I didnt realise it was public what we have bid. There maybe a case of us trying to exploit Hull's current predicament but nobody really knows for sure do they?I would advocate paying £10m for Hughes.
We have tried now with two pathetic bids which were laughed out the room by Hull.
So you're now saying by your own statements previously that we would be trying to get Hughes on the cheap then .I would advocate paying £10m for Hughes.
We have tried now with two pathetic bids which were laughed out the room by Hul
Would take both and look to offload Lati . That would be real depth and quality in the centre back departmentI would rather Woolfenden than Hughes if I'm honest. Promotion team proven
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