Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (109 Viewers)

[TomRad85]

Birmingham can't really do what they are doing unless the get promoted in the next couple of seasons which they don't look like they are at that level yet.

I don't think that smug yank twat has finished blowing his wad yet but hopefully they completely fuck it. Horrible bunch.

 

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[Skybluedownunder]

But we have a great team already, one that finished 5th and only lost in the play offs (to the team that won promotion) because of a bad back pass and a 121 minute lack of concentration from a shattered set of players.

We don't need many players, just quality to add depth with he have been doing.

Also where does the money come from for your "going for it" without us selling Rudi etc? CCFC is a loss making company and there is not endless reserves of money.

It’s all well and good finishing 5th and thinking we only need minor adjustments to be there or there abouts on the basis that the teams around us don’t strengthen more than we have.

Birmingham and Wrexham coming up and spending a lot will put them up there which normally you wouldn’t have a team trying to fight for playoffs only just getting promoted into the league.
Southampton & Ipswich coming down both have solid teams, Leicesters team is still good but who knows what will happen with them.
Norwich have spent well, QPR have added a few good players, Derby will be stronger.


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[procdoc]

He's the same age as Harry Darling and unlike Darling he's actually achieved what we ultimately want to, yet Darling became a forum darling.. if you will. I think some people get names in their heads and get stuck on it

I don’t understand what he wants. I certainly don’t want us spunking millions on over the hill players like Moore and Coady. I also don’t want us cutting horrendous deals like the one for Doyle

 

[David O'Day]

We bid £7m for Hughes and £6m for Rushworth. We just sold Binks for £2.5m and had Gyokeres sell on fee for somewhere around £2.5m-3m… that’s where!


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we are bidding a similar amount to that for players now.

we also have to put some of the incoming money towards the cost of running the club, we lose what is it 6 million a year? King can't fund that for ever.

 

[JSL]

I suppose it could be considered fair game to come to the conclusion that the club has tried to raise money by selling either MVE, Rudoni or Thomas in that order having first bought KKH as an MVE replacement. There does appear to be a chain of players in the news since a highest bid for MVE hasn't materialised, Rudoni seemingly wants to stay and now Thomas is the latest news celebrity. I would like to think we are standing firm and are not in a position of needing to sell (aside from Binks)

 

[fatso]

wouldn't want them at the price they have paid for them

If it buys them Championship survival then I guess they would consider its money we'll spent, especially when the money appears to be coming from wealthy investors, rather that the clubs overdraft.

The figures being quoted for wages though seem astronomical (if reports are accurate)
I realise they have to entice good players to go to little old Wrexham FC, but they are definitely paying well over the odds.

 

[TomRad85]

I suppose it could be considered fair game to come to the conclusion that the club has tried to raise money by selling either MVE, Rudoni or Thomas in that order having first bought KKH as an MVE replacement. There does appear to be a chain of players in the news since a highest bid for MVE hasn't materialised, Rudoni seemingly wants to stay and now Thomas is the latest news celebrity. I would like to think we are standing firm and are not in a position of needing to sell (aside from Binks)

I think that would be a stupid conclusion. We clearly swatted away interest for both Rudoni and Thomas as selling to league rivals would be suicidal despite what some on here thought. We were probably most open to selling MvE but we won't sell low and rightly so.

 

[Cally Fedora]

Crikey, some of the hysteria on here is unbelievable. We’re a top six squad and we’ve improved and will improve further. But not by buying dross.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think that would be a stupid conclusion. We clearly swatted away interest for both Rudoni and Thomas as selling to league rivals would be suicidal despite what some on here thought. We were probably most open to selling MvE but we won't sell low and rightly so.

It will put us in a challenging transfer position next summer with a good number of players entering the last year of their contracts. Thomas, MVE, Kitching, Simms, Sheaf just off the top of my head. If we don't go up and they don't want to stick around you've got to then accept some pretty lowball offers or lose them for nothing later on.

 

[fatso]

Signing Woolfenden and the Fulham winger for me wouldn’t be a good window. It would be below my expectations of a team ‘going for it’


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Despite getting 2 clueless poo poo's i actually agree with you.

Both Woolfenden and Godo are bench players, being brought in to add cover rather than to improve our first 11.

They may be far better than Binks or Raphael, but the squad improvement would be incremental rather than substantial.
And the cost disproportionate.

 

[TomRad85]

It will put us in a challenging transfer position next summer with a good number of players entering the last year of their contracts. Thomas, MVE, Kitching, Simms, Sheaf just off the top of my head. If we don't go up and they don't want to stick around you've got to then accept some pretty lowball offers or lose them for nothing later on.

Fair play slipping Simms in and thinking i wouldn't notice
They might have extra year options for all we know, if not then yeh the club should be looking at new contracts certainly for the first 3 asap.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

I think you’ve got to ask questions about the spend on KKH if MvE going wasn’t cast iron, and if it meant no other improvements outfield. You can justify each thing on its own but Doug and Deans job is to see the overall picture and I’m not sure its worked out this summer.

I think theres two points on that A) The window isn’t done so we have no idea if there will be more outfield signings than the two here. If we sign Woolf and the Fulham winger, the point becomes a bit more moot.

And B) whether it’s this season or next MVE will be off if we don’t get promoted. KKH allows you to have a top tier backup who can rotate with MVE allowing him to keep his fitness up and means when Milan leaves, his replacement is already here.

I could think of worse ways to spend £3.5 millio. Truthfully the worse case of funds would of been the £5.5 million on Rushworth with Dovin coming back

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Callum Doyle
Lewis O'brien
Nathan Broadhead
Keiffer Moore


All get in our squad tbf

Agreed
I’d be annoyed to spend the money of course but they all get in our first team squad

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

Well that’s a lie, you haven’t got any mates!

I knew that was coming! Nearly even added an edit to beat someone to the punch

 

[Balli001]

Despite getting 2 clueless poo poo's i actually agree with you.

Both Woolfenden and Godo are bench players, being brought in to add cover rather than to improve our first 11.

They may be far better than Binks or Raphael, but the squad improvement would be incremental rather than substantial.
And the cost disproportionate.

Woolfenden is not a bench player. He played majority of games in a promotion winning team and then played a lot of games in the premier league.

 

[Skybluedownunder]

we are bidding a similar amount to that for players now.

we also have to put some of the incoming money towards the cost of running the club, we lose what is it 6 million a year? King can't fund that for ever.

I just don’t want us to spunk money in panic mode on Woolfenden if he isn’t ’the one’ sort of thing.
This Hughes player sounded really promising and had a potential strong on sale value.
Don’t know how much we’ve bid for Woolfenden but if it’s above £4m I’d rather us just look for a loan to cover for the short term until Jan seeming as we are now late into the summer and teams are likely not wanting to sell at this late.
A loan would be more ideal in my eyes. Didn’t Burnley have a huge stock of centre backs or have they cleared a few of them out now?
I swear I read Alfie Gilchrist could go for £1m, could offer cover for both CB and RB.
Would rather us pay £1m for Gilchrist or ideally get him on loan if it’s only going to be cover anyways if we aren’t selling Thomas than spend over and above £4m on Woolfenden


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[Balli001]

we are bidding a similar amount to that for players now.

we also have to put some of the incoming money towards the cost of running the club, we lose what is it 6 million a year? King can't fund that for ever.

Fighting a losing battle. Many on here expect him to fund losses and multiple million pound transfers just because he is the owner

 

[Balli001]

I just don’t want us to spunk money in panic mode on Woolfenden if he isn’t ’the one’ sort of thing.
This Hughes player sounded really promising and had a potential strong on sale value.
Don’t know how much we’ve bid for Woolfenden but if it’s above £4m I’d rather us just look for a loan to cover for the short term until Jan seeming as we are now late into the summer and teams are likely not wanting to sell at this late.
A loan would be more ideal in my eyes. Didn’t Burnley have a huge stock of centre backs or have they cleared a few of them out now?
I swear I read Alfie Gilchrist could go for £1m, could offer cover for both CB and RB.
Would rather us pay £1m for Gilchrist or ideally get him on loan if it’s only going to be cover anyways if we aren’t selling Thomas than spend over and above £4m on Woolfenden


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He would be first choice. He is better than Thomas for a start.

 

[Chris1987]

Yeah, I’d hate to think of their combined wages as well !

Cant understand why posters are getting upset when the windows not closed yet and current team/squad is pretty decent. Yeah, we’re probably a couple light if the window closed today but let’s at least see what shakes out over next week or so before passing judgement.

Id imagine there’s some of same people complaining about not getting transfers done who complained about us overpaying for Kitching . Make your minds up lads

It's led by the mob who think that Doug King should bankroll the transfer window spending shed loads of money at whatever inflated price the selling club puts on the player

 

[TomRad85]

I just don’t want us to spunk money in panic mode on Woolfenden if he isn’t ’the one’ sort of thing.
This Hughes player sounded really promising and had a potential strong on sale value.
Don’t know how much we’ve bid for Woolfenden but if it’s above £4m I’d rather us just look for a loan to cover for the short term until Jan seeming as we are now late into the summer and teams are likely not wanting to sell at this late.
A loan would be more ideal in my eyes. Didn’t Burnley have a huge stock of centre backs or have they cleared a few of them out now?
I swear I read Alfie Gilchrist could go for £1m, could offer cover for both CB and RB.
Would rather us pay £1m for Gilchrist or ideally get him on loan if it’s only going to be cover anyways if we aren’t selling Thomas than spend over and above £4m on Woolfenden


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Reports in January suggested we were looking at him even then which doesn't scream panic mode but it looks like you've decided.

 

[JSL]

Promotion 'prize' money solves everything for at least 2, maybe more, years and gets DK his losses back

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Woolfenden is not a bench player. He played majority of games in a promotion winning team and then played a lot of games in the premier league.

He did in the championship but lets not be ridiculous about a lot of games in the prem. He played the equivalent of 13 full games.

 

[Chris1987]

I suppose it could be considered fair game to come to the conclusion that the club has tried to raise money by selling either MVE, Rudoni or Thomas in that order having first bought KKH as an MVE replacement. There does appear to be a chain of players in the news since a highest bid for MVE hasn't materialised, Rudoni seemingly wants to stay and now Thomas is the latest news celebrity. I would like to think we are standing firm and are not in a position of needing to sell (aside from Binks)

It's not fair game to assume that the club ever considered selling Rudoni. There was a derisory speculative bid which was rejected out of hand

 

[skybluecam]

Despite getting 2 clueless poo poo's i actually agree with you.

Both Woolfenden and Godo are bench players, being brought in to add cover rather than to improve our first 11.

They may be far better than Binks or Raphael, but the squad improvement would be incremental rather than substantial.
And the cost disproportionate.

Of course improvements are going to be incremental, we finished 5th and didn't make any big sales.

And you're calling others clueless lol

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

We can't go and absolutely spunk our load without a significant sale, I’m not sure what we want at this point?
We cannot do what Birmingham are doing and neither should we look to, it’s completely reckless.

Tbf I’ve been wondering this for a while, I’ve been told by a few people on here that we can’t spend more than we’ve generated (don’t shoot the messenger if I’m wrong), but why is that Wrexham and Birmingham can come up to the championship with celebrity backing and attempt to buy the league? They’re clearly not creating more money than they’re spending.

Is it that people think we shouldn’t spend more money than we generate or is it that people think we simply aren’t allowed to spend money? Because Doug surely has loads of cash himself, if he’s injecting it then does that count as a debt for the club itself? If I gave away £10 million to the club would that make the club £10m in debt to me? Even if I don’t want the money back? I’m genuinely unsure how this all works because it seems Birmingham and Wrexham can buy whoever they want but whenever someone suggests spending money on a player a load of people on here seem very against it

 

[JSL]

I would rather Woolfenden than Hughes if I'm honest. Promotion team proven

 

[Skybluedownunder]

Reports in January suggested we were looking at him even then which doesn't scream panic mode but it looks like you've decided.

That’s good to hear, I think the panic mode is more around panicking to bring someone in for inflated fees than we would generally be prepared to pay.

I hope Perry turns out to be a good player in time for us, if we sign someone then perhaps he gets a league one loan maybe?


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[Ccfcisparks]

I would rather Woolfenden than Hughes if I'm honest. Promotion team proven

Limited upside. If we got promoted with Hughes hes instantly worth £20m+.

Woolfenden is limited on his potential value. For the right price though I don't mind the signing.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I would rather Woolfenden than Hughes if I'm honest. Promotion team proven

The challenge is going to be about playing time with anyone worth their salt. Either the new signing becomes first choice, or you regularly rotate the CB pairing. Both cases you're going to get people unhappy with playing time.

 

[skybluecam]

Tbf I’ve been wondering this for a while, I’ve been told by a few people on here that we can’t spend more than we’ve generated (don’t shoot the messenger if I’m wrong), but why is that Wrexham and Birmingham can come up to the championship with celebrity backing and attempt to buy the league? They’re clearly not creating more money than they’re spending.

Is it that people think we shouldn’t spend more money than we generate or is it that people think we simply aren’t allowed to spend money? Because Doug surely has loads of cash himself, if he’s injecting it then does that count as a debt for the club itself? If I gave away £10 million to the club would that make the club £10m in debt to me? Even if I don’t want the money back? I’m genuinely unsure how this all works because it seems Birmingham and Wrexham can buy whoever they want but whenever someone suggests spending money a load of people seem very against it

1. Birmingham's owners are much richer than Doug (and Wrexham's).

2. Neither have been in the Championship for all the last 3 seasons so have P&S headroom to spend this season.

3. Both can attract much more lucrative sponsorships through the benefit of the American connection and the TV shows, so have more revenue to work with.

 

[Chris1987]

Limited upside. If we got promoted with Hughes hes instantly worth £20m+.

Woolfenden is limited on his potential value. For the right price though I don't mind the signing.

But you would advocate buying Hughes at £20M , this being what you have already definitively stated is the current value of the player which at the lowest of your valuation is no profit at all.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

But you would advocate buying Hughes at £20M , this being what you have already definitively stated is the current value of the player which at the lowest of your valuation is no profit at all.

I would advocate paying £10m for Hughes.

We have tried now with two pathetic bids which were laughed out the room by Hull.

 

[JSL]

I would advocate paying £10m for Hughes.

We have tried now with two pathetic bids which were laughed out the room by Hull.

I didnt realise it was public what we have bid. There maybe a case of us trying to exploit Hull's current predicament but nobody really knows for sure do they?

 

[Chris1987]

I would advocate paying £10m for Hughes.

We have tried now with two pathetic bids which were laughed out the room by Hul

So you're now saying by your own statements previously that we would be trying to get Hughes on the cheap then .
You're full of contradictions.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

I would rather Woolfenden than Hughes if I'm honest. Promotion team proven

Would take both and look to offload Lati . That would be real depth and quality in the centre back department