Briles
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Tbh our biggest loss would be Rudoni
Tbh our biggest loss would be RudoniYou just don’t know where you’ll get hit either. We could lose a CB on opening day for the season and be left with Lats or Binks like we were Wilson and Collins or Simms and BTA when Wrighr and EMC were out. The drop off is too big in most areas of the pitch.
Tbh our biggest loss would be Rudoni
We have had impact off the bench for ages. We look and go “hey that’s a strong bench” cos it hasn’t got kids on then on 60 mins are like “BTA for Simms??“
Well need more than 11 players of the right quality if we want to finish higher than 5th IMO.
I agree with your opening point about finding teams to take the players, which is seemingly going to be necessary if we are in fact bringing new midfielders in. I am curious with how it will work. Many on here talk about Sheaf going to play at a higher level for three years now, but still he hasn't attracted that kind of attention. If you could get a really handsome sum for him though, would you take it if we could reinvest?
It will probably be easier to place a player like Eccles or Allen, as the expectations are a bit more realistic, but how is that going to work for the team overall? I think some are forgetting a balanced squad is really important and if you are overloaded, or have too many players that think they should be playing every minute, then you end up with an unhappy squad. If Pereira does come in, you then entertain some of the suggestions we have seen such as Rudoni being sacrificed or moved out of position to accommodate Sheaf. That doesn't make sense either.
I know we have no idea what is going to happen, but I am sure the club have a plan. Looking forward to the next few weeks.
We need to build a stronger squad this idea or assumptions we lose our best players because we buy someone is baffling. At certain times we will develop a player and use a fee to bring in more quality, but the fact we haven't sold anyone yet still are paying fees to sign players should tell us we are building not rebuilding.
Competition within the squad has to be what FL and DK wants. We do have players that need to be moved on which is hard but Allen, Collins, Bidwell, Binks and Simms would be my way not Rudoni, Milan, Tatsu or Grimes. You strengthen by replacing the bottom of the squad more often than cashing in on the top.
Yeah I agree with you there, needs to be a good balance in the squad with the types of players we have. As much as I don’t rate Eccles I’d ideally keep him as he’s a versatile player, he should just be more of a bench option these days rather than a weekly starter with the quality we have and the level we’re aiming for. I’d 100% ship Allen off if someone would have him, if Pereira came in we’d have a great midfield, don’t think Allen really offers much at this level these days.
Squad harmony is a consideration that’s being overlooked here.
How many minutes will a 5th choice CM actually make? Particularly when Grimes has barely missed a game in 5-6 seasons.
Eccles is too good to be a 5th choice but not good enough to start with the options we have. If there’s concrete interest, he’ll definitely want to leave.
On the other hand, Allen is v much ok being a backup player.
Grimes Sheaf RudoniYou've got it right with the squad harmony, but Eccles isn't the only one that will be in that predicament. if Pereira comes in, who are you picking to start in midfield?
Grimes Sheaf Rudoni
Pereira and Torp on bench but will start lots of games
Frankly, I don’t know anything about Pereira and his style of play so have no idea where he fits in.You've got it right with the squad harmony, but Eccles isn't the only one that will be in that predicament. if Pereira comes in, who are you picking to start in midfield?
Yes. Welcome to trying to get into the premier leagueSo we are going to sign a player for 3 million to sit on the bench?
So we are going to sign a player for 3 million to sit on the bench?
So we are going to sign a player for 3 million to sit on the bench?
BTA cost about 3 millionSo we are going to sign a player for 3 million to sit on the bench?
It isn’t that wild
BTA cost about 3 million
Eccles is a 3 million pound player.Not really a fair comparison though, is it? He's a striker.
Arguably Sheaf was valued around £10-£15m last year and would be over £5m this year so you would assume Pereira wouldn’t just be gifted a starting spot based on the fact he’s a £3m player.
Let’s just have a good 11 then and when we get an injury or two we struggle massively.2023 - worth 20-25 million and going to a top PL club.
2024 - worth 15 million and going to a lower PL club.
2025 - worth 5 million and going to a heavyweight Championship club.
Why is he still here if he is that good? Why are we spending millions to bring in another central midfielder despite this?
I honestly don't think some of you can see what is in front of you.
So we are going to sign a player for 3 million to sit on the bench?
Eccles is a 3 million pound player.
thats a fair comparison
would you start him?
It is. It's batshit.
Our fans just cannot deal with the idea of selling or benching Sheaf, which has become pretty evident from this thread!
If we are signing a 3 million pound player in central midfield, he is going to be playing.
Won’t it be brilliant knowing if sheaf picks up a classic injury it’s him coming on and not relying on players like Allen, who has been great for us but he’s not at the level.He wasn't worth 3 million when we signed him. Your closest comparison would be Grimes, who was signed for around 3 - 4 million, and he is probably one of the first names on the team sheet.
In the second half of the game the other day I heard one of the coaches or somebody on the side telling Bidwell to stay in the three when we were in possessionyep. new trend 5 in this video
I think you’re really just hyper fixated on Sheaf. You, I, We dont need to worry about squad harmony. There’s people who are paid to do that.2023 - worth 20-25 million and going to a top PL club.
2024 - worth 15 million and going to a lower PL club.
2025 - worth 5 million and going to a heavyweight Championship club.
Why is he still here if he is that good? Why are we spending millions to bring in another central midfielder despite this?
I honestly don't think some of you can see what is in front of you.
2023 - worth 20-25 million and going to a top PL club.
2024 - worth 15 million and going to a lower PL club.
2025 - worth 5 million and going to a heavyweight Championship club.
Why is he still here if he is that good? Why are we spending millions to bring in another central midfielder despite this?
I honestly don't think some of you can see what is in front of you.
Yes ask, Dovin, BTA, Simms, Tatsu, Kitching, thats what progressive clubs do....We are competing for promotion to the premier league FFS Not midlands combination.
It’s possible. Torp is a £2m signing and hasn’t ever been considered a first choice yet in 1.5 seasons.So we are going to sign a player for 3 million to sit on the bench?
Not really a fair comparison though, is it? He's a striker.
I dont know what Eccles has to do to be considered a quality back up.There were people on here after we signed Grimes arguing that Sheaf would be benched, only for him to play every game once fit
What is evident is that he only manages 30-35 games, ideally he wouldn’t start twice in a week. To compensate for that you need solid backups
as a role player we arent going to get much better to be hoenstI dont know what Eccles has to do to be considered a quality back up.
The guy was superb at the beginning of last season and in the play off semi at Sunderland, he gets so much unjust hate on here
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