So you think the likes of Eccles, Binks, Lati, Allen, BTA, Simms will all stay?
Rumours are that the likes of Lati, Eccles and BTA have all had interest recently.No not at all, of course a few Will go
But you have to find people that want these players. You've gotta remember a lot of them are only halfway through well paid contracts. Whats their incentive unless another club matches their wage?
For example whos going to have seen Simms over the last 18 months and go ' yea he is someone im going to spend 6 million on and pay more than 20k a week'
No one in their right mind
To be fair I think this is just common sense. A lot of these players people want out like Collins, will take time to get out, obviously the club will work hard to find clubs as will agents but it won’t be quick and for some, maybe they just see out a deal.No not at all, of course a few Will go
But you have to find people that want these players. You've gotta remember a lot of them are only halfway through well paid contracts. Whats their incentive unless another club matches their wage?
For example whos going to have seen Simms over the last 18 months and go ' yea he is someone im going to spend 6 million on and pay more than 20k a week'
No one in their right mind
I'm glad to hear, the squad seems really tight and with a full season we will be looking really strong. FL has shown he has a clear direction of play and I'm sure he will be clear on the players to be brought in.There won't be the massive turnover people think
We spent 17 million in the last 2 windowss without a big sale
I think we will see a couple of free agents of decent quality, and a loan until we start getting players out the door
Sims only cost 3.5m didn’t he? There’s big add ins but I doubt he’s hit these. One of them is based on promotion. I reckon 4-5m could get him.Yeah it’s not as easy as some think to move some of these players on. Simms I think will stay as I can’t see anyone paying north of 5m for him, same with Sheaf. Someone will probably pay 10m for Wright id have thought. Not sure anyone’s taking Binks off our hands
There is a player in there just not for us.Sims only cost 3.5m didn’t he? There’s big add ins but I doubt he’s hit these. One of them is based on promotion. I reckon 4-5m could get him.
theres a player in there, so there will always be takers
Don’t doubt there will be interest in him. Leeds are another one I could see looking at him.Just thinking about it, could see Sheff U being all over Milan if they go up.
I’d like to think if we accrued 20 million we’d spend near what we brought inLove close season. Fag packet numbers time.
In £12-15m:
GK - Free/Cheap - Old head who can play first choice most of next season and mentor Dovin when he’s back
RB - £1m - MvE backup, someone young for when MvE inevitably leaves (if he doesn’t this summer)
LB - Free - Angel Brau
CB - £3m - Someone who can organise the defence, ideally with a bit of pace so we aren’t so reliant on MvE
CM - £3m - Dynamic athletic box to box player
AM - loan/£1m - backup to Rudi, a loan or young prospect is fine
RW - loan/£1m - A more direct pacy player to provide options
ST1 - £5m - A proper number 9, under 25 who we can develop. Probably the most expensive signing
ST2 - Older head who can hold the ball up and get thrown on when we’re one up away
LW - loan/£1m - Similar to the RW, possible even the same player. Loans might be good here too.
Out £19m:
Wilson, Collins - Free/packet of polos
Bidwell - £500k
Binks - £1m
Sheaf - £3m
Allen - £500k
BTA - £2m
Simms - £2m
Wright - £10m
Paterson - released
Bassette, Rapha, various kids - loans
Squad:
GK/Dovin/Bell
MvE/RB
Angel Brau/Dasilva
CB/Thomas/Kitching/Lats
Grimes/Eccles
CM/Torp
Rudoni/AM
Saka/RW
ST/ST
EMC/LW
Would swap Sheaf for Eccles but his injury record…
Think they will be happy with Bogle, Sheff U haven’t had a settled right back all year. Would be horrible seeing him and Hamer in the same team in the prem. Sign of what could have been.Don’t doubt there will be interest in him. Leeds are another one I could see looking at him.
Good for him. Some were convinced he'd drop out the football league entirely.Looks like Burton want Tavares.
Six players are still in negotiations with the club in the hope of retaining their services for the 2025/26 season.
Max Crocombe, Ryan Sweeney, Jón Dadi Bödvarsson, Kegs Chauke, Finn Delap, Fábio Tavares and Kamil Dudek are out of contract this summer but have received offers from Albion in an attempt to keep them at Pirelli Stadium next term.
Who'll be the driver for the nights out.going by what Lampard put together at derby, should be a decent summer, and if grimes is the level of Player wer‘e signing then we’ll be challenging for a play offs again spot again, 3rd time lucky ?
I’d like to think if we accrued 20 million we’d spend near what we brought in
Yes we would don’t be ridiculousSurely no way we'd get £10m for Wright?
If he does then i believe @Jimmy87 would like a word. Conflicting info.
Yes we would don’t be ridiculous
He's got the best goals to minutes ratio in the league, He's scored double figures championship goals in 2 seasons running, he's a full USA international, he's on a long contract.What's ridiculous about it?
Make your case then, why would he be worth more now than when we bought him, when he's scored less this year than last, and his appearances since that hatrick haven't exactly been inspiring?
I'm happy to discuss if you've got some logic supporting your emotion, but your opinion isn't fact, sunshine.
Not a chance Simms is here next season. More likely that Wright stays.Squad I can see after players go out the door
GK - Dovin | Wilson
RB - van Ewijk
RCB - Thomas | Latibeaudiere
LCB - Kitching
LB - Dasilva
CDM - Grimes | Torp | Eccles | Andrews
CAM - Rudoni
RW - Sakamoto
ST - Simms | Asante
LW - Mason-Clarke
Which means leaving:
Collins (Free)
Burroughs (Release)
Binks (0.5m-1.5m)
Bidwell (~0.5m)
Sheaf (5m-7.5m)
Allen (Free)
Howley (Release)
Raphael (Loan)
Bassette (Loan)
Obikwu (Loan)
Wright (15m-20m)
Paterson (Free)
This means we need:
GK (x1)
RB (x1)
LCB (x1)
LB (x1)
CDM (x1)
CAM (x1)
RW (x1)
ST (x1)
LW (x1)
looks like a lot but only 3/4 of them would be starters
GK - New
RB - MvE
RCB - Thomas
LCB - New
LB - New
CDM - Torp
CDM - Grimes
RW - Sakamoto
CAM - Rudoni
LW - EMC
ST - New
How does 10% of £40m+ work out at £750k?Problem is we will be selling players we don’t want at the bottom of their cycle - what sort of money guessing would we get for:
Simms- £2-3 M
Sheaf - £3-5 m (optimistic)
Collins - nothing really
Allen - same
Binks - £1m ?
Eccles £1-2 m
Vic money - £750k
Bidwell - not much
IN- maybe £10m and some headspace on the wages bill. Might be easier to keep most of them
That leaves us with no transfer income (Apart from Rudoni who we keep unless a massive offer ) then that looks like we need to sell MVE as our most valuable asset . £10-15m maybe
That becomes a decent budget plus whatever Doug has already agreed to add. Could be £20m but over a third of that would be needed for a top championship striker.
We also need a goalkeeper until Xmas probably .
Not a chance Simms is here next season. More likely that Wright stays.
Simms is done mate. The fact he got not one minute says it all. Writing is on the wall for him, imo.Asante is the most likely to leave. Simms has started more games and was praised by the coaching staff and his peers more recently.
Simms has least demonstrated he can go on big scoring runs whereas BTA goal scoring record is much weaker. Say we were offered a minor profit on either player, you’d sell BTA 100%.
I think the info Saddle and i get is not too dissimilar.
Where i get mine, he's always maintained that Lampard was told he would be backed from the beginning. I think the signing of Grimes was telling enough. They had also tried for that RB cover too, to no avail.
What Saddle has said though is correct. We won't just keep buying, from a business point of view we'll obviously need to see some leave to create funds, balance the books and remain in line with wage structure etc.
The problem will only arise if we can't shift on players. There may come a point too when we see bids for players we might not necessarily want to let go, then the club and Lampard will have to make decisions as to whether or not that player is in their plans or can be replaced with the money offered.
It's all good people online holding personal grudges against players and saying 'they need to go' etc, but DK isn't just going to turn around and say right let's shift them on at a loss. He's not seeing things from an emotional point of view. He's invested in some players and they are on long contracts, it's down to Lampard and his staff to get the best out of them or bring in players that will make the team better.
It's clear by now what system Lampard wants to play, so he needs to bring in players who are going to make that effective.
Personally i think we'll see some wingers coming in.
Strikers who are proven to work in this particular system would be the ideal additions, but then we need to see interest in the ones currently here, so if there is open interest in one or two of them, let them go and reinvest.
Same goes for the midfield, we've added Grimes but still needs a little tweak. Does a bid come in for Eccles or Sheaf? Do we then accept it or not.
Now we know where we are playing next year, could well be worth picking a couple of out of contract players up.
Interest in BTA seemed pretty concrete in Jan so you'd think that might come back around. Also interest in Eccles and Lati seems to have some weight behind it?
I think the info Saddle and i get is not too dissimilar.
Where i get mine, he's always maintained that Lampard was told he would be backed from the beginning. I think the signing of Grimes was telling enough. They had also tried for that RB cover too, to no avail.
What Saddle has said though is correct. We won't just keep buying, from a business point of view we'll obviously need to see some leave to create funds, balance the books and remain in line with wage structure etc.
The problem will only arise if we can't shift on players. There may come a point too when we see bids for players we might not necessarily want to let go, then the club and Lampard will have to make decisions as to whether or not that player is in their plans or can be replaced with the money offered.
It's all good people online holding personal grudges against players and saying 'they need to go' etc, but DK isn't just going to turn around and say right let's shift them on at a loss. He's not seeing things from an emotional point of view. He's invested in some players and they are on long contracts, it's down to Lampard and his staff to get the best out of them or bring in players that will make the team better.
It's clear by now what system Lampard wants to play, so he needs to bring in players who are going to make that effective.
Personally i think we'll see some wingers coming in.
Strikers who are proven to work in this particular system would be the ideal additions, but then we need to see interest in the ones currently here, so if there is open interest in one or two of them, let them go and reinvest.
Same goes for the midfield, we've added Grimes but still needs a little tweak. Does a bid come in for Eccles or Sheaf? Do we then accept it or not.
Now we know where we are playing next year, could well be worth picking a couple of out of contract players up.
I’d be very surprised if there is concrete evidence in Sakamoto, Thomas, EMC where what a club can offer is worth taking.The other side of the ledger will be interesting. Which of our best players will people have been looking at? For me Sakamoto has really put himself in the shop window. Van Ewijk obviously. Maybe Thomas. EMC recently and probably Wright. And then Rudoni. Would we turn down tasty bids for any of those.
Bundu is a free agent although Plymouth have offered a deal.Carlton Morris is 29 - will want a 3 year contract (minimum) and has had a poor season in the Championship. I'd much sooner have Keiffer Moore of the two (even if he's older). I'd take Bundu, from Plymouth, over the pair of them.
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