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quinn1971

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,206
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Disagree on MVE, that point gets parroted without any supporting data. Most of MVE’s assists this season have been without Sakamoto playing…

Esse is first choice and not buying the idea we’ve spent €5m on a winger to not be in around the starting 11 so Sakamoto either drops down the pecking order or changes position.

Sakamoto is never a player that would be ‘bombed out’, he’s got a lot of good traits that makes me think we could utilise him in different positions.
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Don’t need data, use your eyes, they know each others game, they attack as a pair and defend as a pair, watch esse drifts inside all the time a leaves MVE open, which is why I reckon esse goes in the 10 and why we’ve brought this lad, good signing gives us more attacking options
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,207
wtf
 
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quinn1971

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,208
Mucca Mad Boys said:
People were crying for it when he was out injured. Yet, football fans have amnesia because the narrative was that without Rudoni, we were too open with BTA with Haji…

Frankly, BTA needs to work his way back into the 11 and it was a mistake not starting Eccles imo who should’ve scored again.

It’s also pretty baffling to not start Simms when we’re away. He’s the only striker to score away from home since Boro…
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Should have started lati aswell, based on his last 2 starts
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,209
ptr said:
What have people see to suggest Esse would be good in the middle? Not sure why people are obsessed with trying to place players out of position.

Esse struggles to get back as it is and our main problem at the moment is being overrun in midfield.

Put Esse in and it’s the same outcome if not worse. Grimes and Torp being horribly exposed.
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The obsession is more with Sakamoto being untouchable for many people. He is overestimated by most of our fanbase.

To be clear, that doesn’t mean he’s bad, it just means he’s not as good as some people think he is. Apparently MVE is prime Cafu when he plays with Sakamoto and Stephen Wright without him…
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,210
I really really do not get that signing
 
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quinn1971

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,211
Mucca Mad Boys said:
The obsession is more with Sakamoto being untouchable for many people. He is overestimated by most of our fanbase.

To be clear, that doesn’t mean he’s bad, it just means he’s not as good as some people think he is. Apparently MVE is prime Cafu when he plays with Sakamoto and Stephen Wright without him…
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I take it you do watch games, tell me honestly that MVE and saka don’t link up well together, esse gives us a bit more that’s the only reason he’s not starting, injury to esse and there’s no problem with saka starting ?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,212
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We literally scored more headers than nearly every team in Europe last season
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Rudi not being available and maybe not confident with his shoulder, has been a real miss in that department this season
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,213
CCFCSteve said:
Rudi not being available and maybe not confident with his shoulder, has been a real miss in that department this season
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I was thinking that. He was so good in the air last season.
 
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edgy

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,214
I'll be a little bit sad if Tats is moving on.

Someone has to be moving out. It makes no sense otherwise.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,215
edgy said:
I'll be a little bit sad if Tats is moving on.

Someone has to be moving out. It makes no sense otherwise.
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Tatsu is not going anywhere.
 
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DT-R

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,216
JSL said:
He scored from the left
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He scored from the riiihhght. Oh Romain Esse, he'll be scoring all night!

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coop

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,217
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We literally scored more headers than nearly every team in Europe last season
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Not with our forwards I don't think.Rudoni scored a few last year as he was always following in.But can't recall many from Simms,Wright or BTA.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,218
WHERE'S the fucking Midfielder we're desperate for??????
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,219
quinn1971 said:
Don’t need data, use your eyes, they know each others game, they attack as a pair and defend as a pair, watch esse drifts inside all the time a leaves MVE open, which is why I reckon esse goes in the 10 and why we’ve brought this lad, good signing gives us more attacking options
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quinn1971 said:
I take it you do watch games, tell me honestly that MVE and saka don’t link up well together,
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If the eye test was that conclusive, why does the data not support that and on the contrary, why has MVE got more assists without Sakamoto?

MVE and Sakamoto have played together close to 100 games together (probably more), there’s been a lot of good moments between the two.

Statistically, MVE is a top end Championship RB both defensively and in attack. In fact, he’s actually a bigger threat than Sakamoto altogether. By contrast, Sakamoto is slightly above average in all categories, he doesn’t standout as ‘elite’ in any statistical category bar ‘fouls won’ and xA.

EMC, by contrast, has established himself as a top end winger and he’s playing with JDS who is not a top end WB, despite his complementary characteristics.

Statistically and ‘the eye test’, Sakamoto is less threatening compared to Esse, Rudoni and EMC.
 

shepardo01

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,220
SJ80 said:
Hearing we have a bid for saka
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Ipswich or Birmingham?
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,221
Mucca Mad Boys said:
People were crying for it when he was out injured. Yet, football fans have amnesia because the narrative was that without Rudoni, we were too open with BTA with Haji…

Frankly, BTA needs to work his way back into the 11 and it was a mistake not starting Eccles imo who should’ve scored again.

It’s also pretty baffling to not start Simms when we’re away. He’s the only striker to score away from home since Boro…
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Re BTA, you could say the same for Wright, Rudoni, Thomas and Thorpe.

FL said at the start of the season you have to work and work in training and be ready to take your chance. That is fair enough, until you do work hard and wait for your chance. But then Frank just brings his favourites back in regardless.

I’m a big Thomas fan and he would normally be first on the team sheet for me. But his red at Birmingham was brainless. Lati has come in and done very well. He was unlucky to be dropped after Southampton. Came back in and did well again. Thomas didn’t merit his start last night. He didn’t come up with a performance either.

It is clear Frank has his chosen few who just get a pass back into the side. Over time that can undo the squads togetherness
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,222
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Why would Ipswich sign Sakamoto?!
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Just so we don't have him!
 

Nick

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,223
David O'Day said:
Yep but that's EMC's best position so with that and Yang there's less minutes to be had there.

No.10 with Rudi struggling with injuries and the lack of and actual replacement could open up more minutes?
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I dint think emc should be undroppable.
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,224
shepardo01 said:
Ipswich or Birmingham?
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Sakamoto is 29 so Wrexham or Celtic they need wingers.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,225
Mucca Mad Boys said:
If the eye test was that conclusive, why does the data not support that and on the contrary, why has MVE got more assists without Sakamoto?

MVE and Sakamoto have played together close to 100 games together (probably more), there’s been a lot of good moments between the two.

Statistically, MVE is a top end Championship RB both defensively and in attack. In fact, he’s actually a bigger threat than Sakamoto altogether. By contrast, Sakamoto is slightly above average in all categories, he doesn’t standout as ‘elite’ in any statistical category bar ‘fouls won’ and xA.

EMC, by contrast, has established himself as a top end winger and he’s playing with JDS who is not a top end WB, despite his complementary characteristics.

Statistically and ‘the eye test’, Sakamoto is less threatening compared to Esse, Rudoni and EMC.
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While MVE is forward getting the assists, sakamoto covers him, works back, not saying he’s brilliant but always puts a shift in, unlike some, did really well when he came on last night, prob won’t start in front of esse but there’s not many better than saka in this league
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,226
CCFCSteve said:
Rudi not being available and maybe not confident with his shoulder, has been a real miss in that department this season
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Rudoni and his shoulder is a fans myth. No sign what so ever he is worried about his shoulder.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,227
Will be more signings apparently, Going to be a busy week. Will be a few leaving I suspect as well.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,228
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Will be more signings apparently, Going to be a busy week. Will be a few leaving I suspect as well.
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Where you read that
 

Nick

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,229
quinn1971 said:
While MVE is forward getting the assists, sakamoto covers him, works back, not saying he’s brilliant but always puts a shift in, unlike some, did really well when he came on last night, prob won’t start in front of esse but there’s not many better than saka in this league
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We have conceded plenty down our right too.
 
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Jamieb87ccfc

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,230
edgy said:
I'll be a little bit sad if Tats is moving on.

Someone has to be moving out. It makes no sense otherwise.
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Makes perfect sense, Rudoni has a shoulder injury and is out. BTA facing a three/four match ban. Esse will play 10 so Saka and the new guy for the RW position
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,231
Hobo said:
Rudoni and his shoulder is a fans myth. No sign what so ever he is worried about his shoulder.
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He was still working on it when he was rehabbing after calf injury although said it was ok now but unless you get surgery Im pretty sure dislocating shoulder again remains a risk. Maybe it’s just where he’s been asked to play but he’s not attacked the box in the same way as last season
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,232
SJ80 said:
Hearing we have a bid for saka
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Doubt he’d have played last night if that was the case.
 

Perryccfc

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,233
Ccfcisparks said:
Where you read that
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Turner I’m guessing
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,234
Dean, did you get the ball winning midfielder we needed? Or the athletic left back?

 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,235
quinn1971 said:
While MVE is forward getting the assists, sakamoto covers him, works back, not saying he’s brilliant but always puts a shift in, unlike some, did really well when he came on last night, prob won’t start in front of esse but there’s not many better than saka in this league
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I don’t think Lampard want his winger’s first priority is covering their WBs when they get forward… Besides, if what you say is true, why has MVE got more assists without Sakamoto than with this season?

Sakamoto is an above average winger in this division so he’d comfortably start for most teams. That said, is he better than Whittaker, Joseph, Azeez or Esse? These are the wingers the team around us have.

Is it a surprise, therefore, that we’ve signed two RW who seem a lot more attacking than Sakamoto?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,236
coop said:
Not with our forwards I don't think.Rudoni scored a few last year as he was always following in.But can't recall many from Simms,Wright or BTA.
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Simms got one of the highest totals of headed goals of any striker in the league last season I think
 
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quinn1971

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,237
Nick said:
We have conceded plenty down our right too.
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We concede from everywhere, but they’ve got a good understanding,
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,238
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I don’t think Lampard want his winger’s first priority is covering their WBs when they get forward… Besides, if what you say is true, why has MVE got more assists without Sakamoto than with this season?

Sakamoto is an above average winger in this division so he’d comfortably start for most teams. That said, is he better than Whittaker, Joseph, Azeez or Esse? These are the wingers the team around us have.

Is it a surprise, therefore, that we’ve signed two RW who seem a lot more attacking than Sakamoto?
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Who else does Esse play for?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,239
Well it does give me a bit of confidence that we have money to spend, the club clearly think hes worth the investment.

I'd imagine a CM will be coming in.
 
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Hobo

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #9,240
quinn1971 said:
While MVE is forward getting the assists, sakamoto covers him, works back, not saying he’s brilliant but always puts a shift in, unlike some, did really well when he came on last night, prob won’t start in front of esse but there’s not many better than saka in this league
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One area we have potential in is Rudoni and Esse combining. Both can play wide or drift inside to the 10 role. If they can work together and rotate positions freely during a game that really does give the opposition marking problems. It increases their chances of finding space out wide and the the penalty area.

It’s relatively easy to mark a player who is playing in a fixed role and a fixed position. Once they start rotating and roaming it becomes far more difficult. You either have to pass them on to another defender which is difficult in real time or go man to man. Man to man means you can just walk someone into no mans land and create space for someone else.
 
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