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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 2:00 PM
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Deity said:
Have you heard of parachute payments ? Are you aware of the income they generated from player sales in the summer ?

If not maybe have a look ….
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Any excuse to back Doug not spending a penny so far, it’s 1 player we need not 10 ffs
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Today at 2:01 PM
  • #7,947
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Ipswich signing mehmeti and going after louza, meanwhile we seem to be not spending a penny! Surely Doug’s biggest admirers have to start getting concerned
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When did we start believing Football League World rumours?
 
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SkyB

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  • Today at 2:05 PM
  • #7,948
Surely reading those comments from the Sheff Utd forum is a green light for us. Seems like him being a little fatty is a culture thing there.

Not for 1 second do I think he'll come here and keep up that unprofessional approach without being pulled up by our coaches and players.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 2:06 PM
  • #7,949
shmmeee said:
I just think if you’re losing Torps forward attributes and replacing them with a pure destroyer with no attacking ability you’re going to have a bad time.
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You need both for different opponents and different match situations. Leaving wide open spaces for the opposition to waltz into on every counter attack isn't my idea of a good time either.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Today at 2:06 PM
  • #7,950
Lampard has got this to top of the league. He's earned a few quid if he wants it.

 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Today at 2:14 PM
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alexccfc99 said:
He is actually other than Grimes and now probably Rushy the player we can ill afford to lose the most

We are twice the side when he is on the pitch in my opinion
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Add Sakamoto playing with MVE (Who seems to languish without him).
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 2:19 PM
  • #7,952
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You need both for different opponents and different match situations. Leaving wide open spaces for the opposition to waltz into on every counter attack isn't my idea of a good time either.
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I think that’s fair. I just think Eccles can do a job in that role.
 

Chris1987

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  • Today at 2:19 PM
  • #7,953
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Stop using that excuse ffs, we haven’t spent a penny and we’re top of the league. We are crying out for a ball winning midfielder, It won’t bankrupt the club like all you bedwetters claim all the time
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I wasn't claiming it would , don't twist things as you usually do. Just pointing out a key difference for context.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 2:21 PM
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shmmeee said:
I just think if you’re losing Torps forward attributes and replacing them with a pure destroyer with no attacking ability you’re going to have a bad time.
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Last year Onyeka’s offensive stats, passing and shooting were generally above average his match rating was 6.94 for a whole Bundesliga season. I’ve documented his impressive defensive outputs elsewhere. Now, considering Augsburg finished 3 points above the relegation zone, it looks positive. I’m confident he’d do well in the Championship at the very least. It’d make a good signing for us even thinking ahead to next year.

If you bring Onyeka in, you have the option to perhaps play 4-3-3 or even Torp at AM. I don’t think it’s as straightforward as Torp being dropped for him.
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 2:23 PM
  • #7,955
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Last year Onyeka’s offensive stats, passing and shooting were generally above average his match rating was 6.94 for a whole Bundesliga season. I’ve documented his impressive defensive outputs elsewhere. Now, considering Augsburg finished 3 points above the relegation zone, it looks positive. I’m confident he’d do well in the Championship at the very least. It’d make a good signing for us even thinking ahead to next year.

If you bring Onyeka in, you have the option to perhaps play 4-3-3 or even Torp at AM. I don’t think it’s as straightforward as Torp being dropped for him.
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Torp can’t last an English season and hasn’t since he signed. You need him plus another.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 2:23 PM
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Deity said:
Have you heard of parachute payments ? Are you aware of the income they generated from player sales in the summer ?

If not maybe have a look ….
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To be honest, Ipswich’s recruitment policy seems to be geared towards creating a Championship super team.

Can these players keep them up or are they content with being a yo-yo team?
 
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mmttww

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  • Today at 2:25 PM
  • #7,957
shmmeee said:
I just think Eccles can do a job in that role.
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Had the same thought. He'd just need to stop that habit (which tbf he hasn't done as much recently) of falling over hoping for a foul.

Edit: can anyone pull up Eccles data stuff for this season? feel like his output can be hard to measure with the eye test sometimes.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 2:25 PM
  • #7,958
shmmeee said:
Torp can’t last an English season and hasn’t since he signed. You need him plus another.
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He’s doing a good job of it so far and Eccles has been playing just as well as him of late.

You need something different and at a higher level than Allen. In the Prem, if you don’t have athleticism in every area of the pitch, you’ll be exposed.

At CB an CM, we’ve got good technicality but at times the athleticism isn’t there. Kitching got turned by Ayew so imagine him against Haaland…
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 2:27 PM
  • #7,959
shmmeee said:
I think that’s fair. I just think Eccles can do a job in that role.
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Looks like Lampard wants to use Eccles further up the pitch to be honest. I guess my point is there isn't any of our midfielders you'd describe as a 'powerhouse' which is what I think it lacks.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 2:28 PM
  • #7,960
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Kitching got turned by Ayew so imagine him against Haaland…
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In a different universe Kyle McFadzean goes up against Haaland on the opening day of the 23/24 season...
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Today at 2:29 PM
  • #7,961
Mucca Mad Boys said:
He’s doing a good job of it so far and Eccles has been playing just as well as him of late.

You need something different and at a higher level than Allen. In the Prem, if you don’t have athleticism in every area of the pitch, you’ll be exposed.

At CB an CM, we’ve got good technicality but at times the athleticism isn’t there. Kitching got turned by Ayew so imagine him against Haaland…
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I thought Ayew was shite last week and barely looked a threat, myself
 
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Shannerz

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  • Today at 2:30 PM
  • #7,962
Fadz pockets Haaland every time.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 2:31 PM
  • #7,963
alexccfc99 said:
I thought Ayew was shite last week and barely looked a threat, myself
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I agree but there was that one moment where Kitching gets turned and in the Prem, we won’t get away with it as really.
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Today at 2:32 PM
  • #7,964
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In a different universe Kyle McFadzean goes up against Haaland on the opening day of the 23/24 season...
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And we'd become the first ever Premier League team to finish on 0 points
 
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coop

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  • Today at 2:41 PM
  • #7,965
DK needs to get some cash flowing we definitely need a few more signings to get us to the promised land.A CM is a must for me.
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 2:51 PM
  • #7,966
Mucca Mad Boys said:
He’s doing a good job of it so far and Eccles has been playing just as well as him of late.

You need something different and at a higher level than Allen. In the Prem, if you don’t have athleticism in every area of the pitch, you’ll be exposed.

At CB an CM, we’ve got good technicality but at times the athleticism isn’t there. Kitching got turned by Ayew so imagine him against Haaland…
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He’s been in the matchday squad less than any other first team player. He’s never played more than 2.5k minutes in a season and is on 1800 ish so far.
 
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Martw

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  • Today at 2:52 PM
  • #7,967
Deity said:
Have you heard of parachute payments ? Are you aware of the income they generated from player sales in the summer ?

If not maybe have a look ….
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They might be in the same division as us but in terms of finances they are leagues away from us. If we can go up then we can match them but not until that happens
 
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Balli001

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  • Today at 2:53 PM
  • #7,968
coop said:
DK needs to get some cash flowing we definitely need a few more signings to get us to the promised land.A CM is a must for me.
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A few? We have 1 available space in our 25 man squad. Currently some of the bench wont even be on it once everyone is available again.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Today at 2:54 PM
  • #7,969
I appreciate that we're concerned we've not secured quality CM player so far. Hopefully, that'll be addressed soon.
However, for those asking for DK to "splash the cash" need to consider the outlay he's already made this season in buying the stadium and the two recent loans. I'd imagine that Esse loan fee and wages will be significant.
 
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DT-R

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  • Today at 3:03 PM
  • #7,970
Colin Steins Smile said:
I appreciate that we're concerned we've not secured quality CM player so far. Hopefully, that'll be addressed soon.
However, for those asking for DK to "splash the cash" need to consider the outlay he's already made this season in buying the stadium and the two recent loans. I'd imagine that Esse loan fee and wages will be significant.
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A) Doug King hasnt splashed any cash in buying the stadium.

B) Id be highly surprised if there was any fee involved in loaning Esse and/or Minny. Id go as far as saying I highly doubt we'll be picking up their full wage. A percentage of it yes. But im pretty confident there wont be a loaning fee involved!

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Today at 3:05 PM
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DT-R said:
A) Doug King hasnt splashed any cash in buying the stadium.

B) Id be highly surprised if there was any fee involved in loaning Esse and/or Minny. Id go as far as saying I highly doubt we'll be picking up their full wage. A percentage of it yes. But im pretty confident there wont be a loaning fee involved!

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Based on what?
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Today at 3:05 PM
  • #7,972
DT-R said:
A) Doug King hasnt splashed any cash in buying the stadium.

B) Id be highly surprised if there was any fee involved in loaning Esse and/or Minny. Id go as far as saying I highly doubt we'll be picking up their full wage. A percentage of it yes. But im pretty confident there wont be a loaning fee involved!

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No loan fee for Esse? Have Crystal Palace become a charity?
 
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JSL

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  • Today at 3:06 PM
  • #7,973
It was announced that Shay Dunn signed earlier. Doesn't the club have a habit of two in one day announcements in the manner of one early on and then a bigger one later?
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Today at 3:07 PM
  • #7,974
JSL said:
It was announced that Shay Dunn signed earlier. Doesn't the club have a habit of two in one day announcements in the manner of one early on and then a bigger one later?
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I wonder if Jamie Allens mothers funeral today might have stalled any further announcements today
 
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JSL

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  • Today at 3:08 PM
  • #7,975
Colin Steins Smile said:
I wonder if Jamie Allens mothers funeral today might have stalled any further announcements today
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Very good point. But we all love a Friday evening announcement
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Today at 3:08 PM
  • #7,976
Martw said:
They might be in the same division as us but in terms of finances they are leagues away from us. If we can go up then we can match them but not until that happens
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Even before their parachute payments they were in a stronger financial position, they've got very wealthy owners and have a higher turnover £37.3m last accounts Vs £29m for us. Lots of fuss was made over their miracle double promotion but their wage bill in their last promotion season was £37m, which I'd suspect is the highest outside of the parachute clubs. Looks like they had something like £112m share capital invested to get them promoted last time.
 
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edgy

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  • Today at 3:08 PM
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"Loan fees" are a bit of a myth. Clubs loan young players out for experience and minutes, not for financial gain. We will be picking up some % of the wage, but I doubt there is anything tangible in terms of a fee for the loans.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Today at 3:08 PM
  • #7,978
DT-R said:
A) Doug King hasnt splashed any cash in buying the stadium.

B) Id be highly surprised if there was any fee involved in loaning Esse and/or Minny. Id go as far as saying I highly doubt we'll be picking up their full wage. A percentage of it yes. But im pretty confident there wont be a loaning fee involved!

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Disagree on both counts.

Firstly no one is offering a 100% LTV mortgage on the CBS arena. The club will of have to put down a deposit.

Secondly Esse was very much in demand. Why would palace not ask for a fee
 
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coop

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  • Today at 3:13 PM
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Balli001 said:
A few? We have 1 available space in our 25 man squad. Currently some of the bench wont even be on it once everyone is available again.
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How does Ipswich and Boro keep buying players if you can only have 25?
 

DT-R

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  • Today at 3:16 PM
  • #7,980
Sky Blue Pete said:
Based on what?
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Which bit? That we didnt pay a fee? In 40 years of following football ive NEVER heard of such a thing. The borrowing club picks up a percentage or all of the wage dependant on the terms of the contract, but an upfront fee? To give your player some league experience and game time and ease your wage expenditure? Im not saying it doesn't/hasn't happened, but its highly irregular. Otherwise why isnt it spoken of in the articles released when signing a player?

"Obikwu is being sold for a fee of around £500k". Thats in the articles, but "Coventry sign Esse on loan" says just that! Not, "Coventry sign Esse on loan for an upfront fee of £X amount"!

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