25/26 January Transfer Window (84 Viewers)

[Cov98]

Can't wait to see the latest transfer rumours!

Me after reading the last 3 pages of tripe:

 

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[SkyBlueDaly]

Well after reading the last 15 pages since I last viewed this thread, its nice to know that ill never get back those 10 minutes.

 

[procdoc]

so are we signing anyone else then, can't tell from reading last few pages!

 

[shmmeee]

A tip: any actual transfer rumour gets a new thread. The transfer window thread is always nonsense.

 

[Briles]

so are we signing anyone else then, can't tell from reading last few pages!

Think its just the CM that saddle referenced as anything with a modicum of maybe about it

 

[Grendel]

Relationship with sisu - joy
Money from vik and Hamer was an amount of money that he was lucky to have
What did you disagree with

He had no money from the sales.

The club was rapidly losing money at circa £10 million a year. If sisu has remained in charge regardless of the sales we would be bust.

The money is not paid upfront and the club has no cash. It would have gone bust without someone injecting money - the sales did not help cash flow. King has had to invest substantial amounts from somewhere and thats regardless of the ground.

Shmmee is against buying the ground and had grudges. I have no idea how it was funded so he certainly doesn't.

Where is this supposed relationship with Sisu even evidenced? They approached William Storey first.

 

[Samueljames1991]

A tip: any actual transfer rumour gets a new thread. The transfer window thread is always nonsense.

Yeah but it's fun for shit posting

 

[Grendel]

The point is King came in when a lot of the hard work had been done. Wasps had failed. The club was on track for promotion. We’d got two generational talents to sell. The fans were back on board. Most owners are not so lucky. This has of course triggered half the forum but it’s obviously true.

The only person triggered is you

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He had no money from the sales.

The club was rapidly losing money at circa £10 million a year. If sisu has remained in charge regardless of the sales we would be bust.

The money is not paid upfront and the club has no cash. It would have gone bust without someone injecting money - the sales did not help cash flow. King has had to invest substantial amounts from somewhere and thats regardless of the ground.

Shmmee is against buying the ground and had grudges. I have no idea how it was funded so he certainly doesn't.

Where is this supposed relationship with Sisu even evidenced? They approached William Storey first.

They clearly had a relationship
And certainly have had since which is good
Yep I think £45m has been put into the club
I’m not sure any is from his personal funds but I’d be happy to see evidence it has

 

[Grendel]

They clearly had a relationship
And certainly have had since which is good
Yep I think £45m has been put into the club
I’m not sure any is from his personal funds but I’d be happy to see evidence it has

What is the evidence they had a relationship?

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

What is the evidence they had a relationship?

Didn’t he say he knew Dermot Coleman when he was asked at the time of the takeover?

 

[David O'Day]

What is the evidence they had a relationship?

I think it is people misunderstanding why some companies King was involved with having the the same postal address as some companies Sisu where involved with.

The address was just a mail box provider used by thousands of companies as their registered address.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

They clearly had a relationship
And certainly have had since which is good
Yep I think £45m has been put into the club
I’m not sure any is from his personal funds but I’d be happy to see evidence it has

We did see the directors loan on the accounts for thirty million.

Also saw the gifted equity of 15 million thus summer in the accounts.

Not an accountant tho so not sure these show what I think they do

 

[alexccfc99]

We would have got far less for Vik if he hadn't taken over the club.

2021/22 and 2022/23 were as good as it was EVER going to get under SISU and they were complete anomalies and that was because Robins had got together a decent crop of players on a shoe-string and had unearthed two phenomenal footballers for this level

Had SISU remained, it is my opinion Gyokeres would have been sold in Jan 2023, probably for pittance in comparison to what we got and we would have as we did the season before fallen just short of the play-offs

Robins would have probably seen it as job done stabilising the club in the Championship and gone elsewhere whilst his stock peaked, he wouldn't have took us any further - He was a lot closer to taking the Stoke job in Aug 2022 than people realise

 

[shmmeee]

2021/22 and 2022/23 were as good as it was EVER going to get under SISU and they were complete anomalies and that was because Robins had got together a decent crop of players on a shoe-string and had unearthed two phenomenal footballers for this level

Had SISU remained, it is my opinion Gyokeres would have been sold in Jan 2023, probably for pittance in comparison to what we got and we would have as we did the season before fallen just short of the play-offs

Robins would have probably seen it as job done stabilising the club in the Championship and gone elsewhere whilst his stock peaked, he wouldn't have took us any further - He was a lot closer to taking the Stoke job in Aug 2022 than people realise

Reckon the Ricoh would have crumbled too, Wasps would have been reborn as Coventry Wasps, Kevin Maton declared king of the world and Balti pies banned from sale.

 

[alexccfc99]

Reckon the Ricoh would have crumbled too, Wasps would have been reborn as Coventry Wasps, Kevin Maton declared king of the world and Balti pies banned from sale.

Do you honestly believe SISU were or were ever going to run the club in a way that enabled it to be in the position it is now?

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

Something that's missed on this is that DK taking over when he did meant we maxed out on the value of Hamer and Gyokores. DK taking over was a 'sliding doors' moment for us, that has put us in this great position right now.

If SISU had instead remained at that point they would both been sold in the January window at no more than half the price we eventually sold them for. We would inevitably then not made the play offs that season or had the money to reinvest in the squad the following Summer, and we wouldn't be in the position we are now.

He might not get everything right but DK has done a good job so far and trying to pretend he hasn't is ridiculous, particularly when compared to the likes of McGinnity, Robinson, Ranson, Dulieu & Fisher who preceded him.

 

[shmmeee]

Do you honestly believe SISU were or were ever going to run the club in a way that enabled it to be in the position it is now?

That’s quite a stretch from what you posted.

 

[David O'Day]

2021/22 and 2022/23 were as good as it was EVER going to get under SISU and they were complete anomalies and that was because Robins had got together a decent crop of players on a shoe-string and had unearthed two phenomenal footballers for this level

Had SISU remained, it is my opinion Gyokeres would have been sold in Jan 2023, probably for pittance in comparison to what we got and we would have as we did the season before fallen just short of the play-offs

Robins would have probably seen it as job done stabilising the club in the Championship and gone elsewhere whilst his stock peaked, he wouldn't have took us any further - He was a lot closer to taking the Stoke job in Aug 2022 than people realise

I don't think he would have been sold to be honest, not because SISU wouldn't want to but he and his agent by that stage had a plan in place and that involved him moving to Europe that summer.

 

[CovRes]

Didn’t he say he knew Dermot Coleman when he was asked at the time of the takeover?

Coleman's brother is a partner in a few businesses with King.

 

[Grendel]

Didn’t he say he knew Dermot Coleman when he was asked at the time of the takeover?

Hardly surprising as they both managed hedge funds - Coleman’s brother and King controlled a hedge fund

 

[Grendel]

The reality is Sisu approached William Storey not Doug King

 

[Grendel]

Reckon the Ricoh would have crumbled too, Wasps would have been reborn as Coventry Wasps, Kevin Maton declared king of the world and Balti pies banned from sale.

Time for rehab again?

 

[PaulPUSB]

The only 2 good things SISU did for our club was

1) Go with their tale between their legs and get Mark Robins back

2) Sell up

End of debate. They were a stain on our great club and incompitent of running a football club.

Fuck Seppala. Fuck fishface. Fuck One Eyed Igwe, Fuck Ken Deluded and Fuck Txt a Sub

I would Happily wipe King Dougs bottom every morning for where we are now.

ALL HAIL KING DOUG!

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[Samo]

Oh please leave it out girls!

 

[CCFC96]

I don’t even understand how you can criticise Doug. We’re now run like a proper operation, proper recruitment, training ground, match day experience, commercial partnerships. What are you even moaning about?

 

[DazzleTommyDazzle]

Doug is only our owner cos he shared an office with Sisu let’s be honest here. He’s invested virtually nothing. He’s mortgaged the ground by dint of not being Sisu and he’s inherited a club with £50m cash to spend which has bought him a promotion. He must be the luckiest football club owner of all time.

I think it's fair to say that the club was in a better position when DK took over than it had been 5 or 6 years before (though that's not saying much).

I think he's said that he wouldn't have been interested given the state of the club a few years before, which partly reinforces the point and partly suggests that it was good business acumen rather than just luck to arrive at that time.

Either way, if the implication of your post is that our progress since he took over is primarily down to luck, then I think that's a stretch worthy of Elastic Man (one for any fans of old DC comics). If you weren't implying that, my apologies.

In my view, DK's decisions since he took over have been very good. We've gone from scrappy amateurs, punching above our weight, to a serious club with what appears to be a solid organisation behind the scenes.

From a training ground that doesn't have to be hidden from new signings until the ink on the contract is dry, to serious people with impressive backgrounds running the non-football side of things rather than Dave Boddy trying to do everything on his own, with a bit of help from some wealthy fans.

To pass off buying the ground - and so in my view, securing the future of the club - as "he's mortgaged the ground by dint of not being SISU" seems particularly unfair.

Anyway, let's stuff Leciester!!

 

[Shannerz]

I would Happily wipe King Dougs bottom every morning for where we are now.

Niche.

 

[Sick Boy]

The only 2 good things SISU did for our club was

1) Go with their tale between their legs and get Mark Robins back

2) Sell up

End of debate. They were a stain on our great club and incompitent of running a football club.

Fuck Seppala. Fuck fishface. Fuck One Eyed Igwe, Fuck Ken Deluded and Fuck Txt a Sub

I would Happily wipe King Dougs bottom every morning for where we are now.

ALL HAIL KING DOUG!

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If it wasn't for Fisher, Robins wouldn't have returned.

 

[Tommo1993]

A tip: any actual transfer rumour gets a new thread. The transfer window thread is always nonsense.

Don’t. I’m enjoying the suggestions as if people are sat at a board room table with Lampard, Austin and King.

‘What about <instert name>?’

 

[mmttww]

Doug is only our owner cos he shared an office with Sisu let’s be honest here. He’s invested virtually nothing. He’s mortgaged the ground by dint of not being Sisu and he’s inherited a club with £50m cash to spend which has bought him a promotion. He must be the luckiest football club owner of all time.

He didn't have £50m in fees or prize money so you're undermining your argument with exaggerations. We spent more than we received.

We have a squad of our own that's been stable for three seasons. Expect that's the first time we've been in that position since relegation.

Did he buy at a good time? Yeah, and he's capitalised. Did MR and Sisu get lucky that Adi stayed when Taylor fell ill? that MR was available again?