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higgs

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #7,631
better days said:
Nothing at all
I think Robins is reasonably happy with what he's got and doesn't want to be held to ransom or make any panic buys
He was talking about planning for the January window last week
But of course this may just be poker if we have actually got someone in mind where the player's club are holding out for more than we can afford
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No Jack Wheelchair for us so by the sounds of it

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better days

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #7,632
higgs said:
No Jack Wheelchair for us so by the sounds of it

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That always sounded preposterous
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #7,633
better days said:
That always sounded preposterous
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That's a relief
 

larry_david

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,634
Bored at work so thinking of potential 'outs' with the window closing in under 2 weeks.

Obviously we have Jobello, Hilsner who are completely out of sight with us now. Can we cancel the contracts, come up with an agreement i.e Kastaneer? Not sure.

Loans out:

I think the National League is open to loans pretty much all season so a few could go out there after August but for league footy,
I'd like to see N'gandu (rumoured Exeter in the summer) to go out on loan, it's now time for him to show what he can go.
Same with Drysdale, it's clear now with Jake coming in that DD won't be on the bench except for injury or suspension so needs a loan, to a league 1 team.
Josh Reid - depending on if we get cover in, he needs first team footy really and no, I wouldn't send him back to Scotland. He needs English, intense league 1/2 footy. One of my concerns with JBurroughs on loan to Ross County was that Reid found our training ridiculously intense compared to SPL footy, so loaning him back there surely doesn't help.

With these three going out on top of Billson, Bapaga and Cashman, we have are 'core' stars and hopefully future first teamers out getting regular footy and following a similar path to Eccles and coming back fitter, stronger and ready for us.
 

slowpoke

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,635
Can players still be loaned to Scottish clubs once the window closes
 

larry_david

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,636
slowpoke said:
Can players still be loaned to Scottish clubs once the window closes
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Don't think so. So with Reid we'll know shortly if he's gonna continue his develop with u23s (which wouldn't be a bad thing considering he's still having to step up to our intensity) or go out to Scotland.

The other one is Blaine Rowe who's never had a loan out but I believe is highly thought so.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,637
larry_david said:
Bored at work so thinking of potential 'outs' with the window closing in under 2 weeks.

Obviously we have Jobello, Hilsner who are completely out of sight with us now. Can we cancel the contracts, come up with an agreement i.e Kastaneer? Not sure.

Loans out:

I think the National League is open to loans pretty much all season so a few could go out there after August but for league footy,
I'd like to see N'gandu (rumoured Exeter in the summer) to go out on loan, it's now time for him to show what he can go.
Same with Drysdale, it's clear now with Jake coming in that DD won't be on the bench except for injury or suspension so needs a loan, to a league 1 team.
Josh Reid - depending on if we get cover in, he needs first team footy really and no, I wouldn't send him back to Scotland. He needs English, intense league 1/2 footy. One of my concerns with JBurroughs on loan to Ross County was that Reid found our training ridiculously intense compared to SPL footy, so loaning him back there surely doesn't help.

With these three going out on top of Billson, Bapaga and Cashman, we have are 'core' stars and hopefully future first teamers out getting regular footy and following a similar path to Eccles and coming back fitter, stronger and ready for us.
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I think I would rather Jobello as back up for Dabo at the min
 

better days

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,638
larry_david said:
Bored at work so thinking of potential 'outs' with the window closing in under 2 weeks.

Obviously we have Jobello, Hilsner who are completely out of sight with us now. Can we cancel the contracts, come up with an agreement i.e Kastaneer? Not sure.

Loans out:

I think the National League is open to loans pretty much all season so a few could go out there after August but for league footy,
I'd like to see N'gandu (rumoured Exeter in the summer) to go out on loan, it's now time for him to show what he can go.
Same with Drysdale, it's clear now with Jake coming in that DD won't be on the bench except for injury or suspension so needs a loan, to a league 1 team.
Josh Reid - depending on if we get cover in, he needs first team footy really and no, I wouldn't send him back to Scotland. He needs English, intense league 1/2 footy. One of my concerns with JBurroughs on loan to Ross County was that Reid found our training ridiculously intense compared to SPL footy, so loaning him back there surely doesn't help.

With these three going out on top of Billson, Bapaga and Cashman, we have are 'core' stars and hopefully future first teamers out getting regular footy and following a similar path to Eccles and coming back fitter, stronger and ready for us.
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Add to that fringe players who may want to go out themselves to get games like Pask, Shppers and Jamie Allen
Although Allen did well against Blackpool he will know that once Liam Kelly is back he will fall further down the pecking order
It will probably be easier for experienced guys like them to find clubs than people in the bomb squad
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,639
I know Ryan Howley has been around the first team squad, but it is probably beneficial for him to go out on loan to a league one team.
 
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larry_david

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,640
better days said:
Add to that fringe players who may want to go out themselves to get games like Pask, Shppers and Jamie Allen
Although Allen did well against Blackpool he will know that once Liam Kelly is back he will fall further down the pecking order
It will probably be easier for experienced guys like them to find clubs than people in the bomb squad
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I do wonder what the Shipley plan is now.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,641
no_loyalty said:
I know Ryan Howley has been around the first team squad, but it is probably beneficial for him to go out on loan to a league one team.
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He wouldn’t get a League 1 team, he’s still a scholar (U18) and clubs don’t loan them out
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,642
larry_david said:
I do wonder what the Shipley plan is now.
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Cash in for whatever we can in my view

Its clear he's not the standard we need
 

CovLad94

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,643
So...this last loan signing, hopefully today or tomorrow, could do with extra backup in the LWB department.
 
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Northeast sky blue

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,644
larry_david said:
I do wonder what the Shipley plan is now.
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I think it's time to move him on along with the likes of Pask and Drysdale, hopefully generating enough cash for bringing someone else in
 
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better days

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,645
larry_david said:
I do wonder what the Shipley plan is now.
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Shippers himself probably would be open for a move I guess
He's Cov through and through but he's not a fool
He'll see a hopeless case like Da Costa being sent on ahead of him at Blackpool and know the writing's on the wall
It's not just us fans who can see Da Costa's frailties
Opponents as well as our own players know them only too well
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,646
better days said:
Shippers himself probably would be open for a move I guess
He's Cov through and through but he's not a fool
He'll see a hopeless case like Da Costa being sent on ahead of him at Blackpool and know the writing's on the wall
It's not just us fans who can see Da Costa's frailties
Opponents as well as our own players know them only too well
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If we have to bring Dacosta on can’t we do it further up the pitch? The likelihood of costing us a goal is reduced then!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,647
better days said:
Shippers himself probably would be open for a move I guess
He's Cov through and through but he's not a fool
He'll see a hopeless case like Da Costa being sent on ahead of him at Blackpool and know the writing's on the wall
It's not just us fans who can see Da Costa's frailties
Opponents as well as our own players know them only too well
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Can we just send teams footage of DaCosta's cameo against Forest last season?
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,648
SlowerThanPlatt said:
He wouldn’t get a League 1 team, he’s still a scholar (U18) and clubs don’t loan them out
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I didn’t know that, I thought Liverpool loaned Elliott out when he was 17?
 

larry_david

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,649
I'm hoping Shipley steps up like Sheaf and (maybe Allen) has but the fact he's not being given that chance against Blackpool for example suggests maybe his time is up.
 
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Garryb80

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,650
larry_david said:
I'm hoping Shipley steps up like Sheaf and (maybe Allen) has but the fact he's not being given that chance against Blackpool for example suggests maybe his time is up.
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He isnt going to make it at this level. His general play and lack of fitness alone count against him
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,651
Garryb80 said:
He isnt going to make it at this level. His general play and lack of fitness alone count against him
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I think he reached the ceiling of his natural fitness level in the L1 promotion season, and often that wasn't sufficient to see out 90 minutes
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,652
Regarding Howley, if he’s on a full time contract we can loan him out as he’s 17. I wouldn’t think he’d be anywhere near ready for a league one loan though
 

Alkhen

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,653
I'm bit worried a bigger fish will swoop in for Gus or O'Hare late on, could really derail things unless we have time to sort replacements
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,654
better days said:
Shippers himself probably would be open for a move I guess
He's Cov through and through but he's not a fool
He'll see a hopeless case like Da Costa being sent on ahead of him at Blackpool and know the writing's on the wall
It's not just us fans who can see Da Costa's frailties
Opponents as well as our own players know them only too well
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Whilst I appreciate that Shipley needs to playing at his stage of career. I think we need to be careful before jettison him for this season, as the number of injuries and suspensions we incurred last season did mean Shipley played an important role in last season.
 
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skybluegod

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,655
procdoc said:
Regarding Howley, if he’s on a full time contract we can loan him out as he’s 17. I wouldn’t think he’d be anywhere near ready for a league one loan though
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I think his development is probably best served here with us for another year. He's getting good exposure and a year with the u23's and being around the first team will be good for him. Reassess next pre-season
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,656
Colin Steins Smile said:
Whilst I appreciate that Shipley needs to playing at his stage of career. I think we need to be careful before jettison him for this season, as the number of injuries and suspensions we incurred last season did mean Shipley played an important role in last season.
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He didnt play an important role. He was played put of necessity due to squad depletion and 90% of the time was fucking shit
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,657
better days said:
Shippers himself probably would be open for a move I guess
He's Cov through and through but he's not a fool
He'll see a hopeless case like Da Costa being sent on ahead of him at Blackpool and know the writing's on the wall
It's not just us fans who can see Da Costa's frailties
Opponents as well as our own players know them only too well
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DaCosta run over your dog BD?
 
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NortonSkyBlue

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,658
Saddlebrains said:
He didnt play an important role. He was played put of necessity due to squad depletion and 90% of the time was fucking shit
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I would leave Robins to be the arbiter of the value of Shipley to the squad. 150 games and by your yardstick 15 decent ones.
 
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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,659
Brighton Sky Blue said:
DaCosta run over your dog BD?
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He'd miss
 
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Samo

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,660
Alkhen said:
I'm bit worried a bigger fish will swoop in for Gus or O'Hare late on, could really derail things unless we have time to sort replacements
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Gerrard told Sky News yesterday that he is close to signing a midfielder for Rangers. It's a worry.
 

Alkhen

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,661
Samo said:
Gerrard told Sky News yesterday that he is close to signing a midfielder for Rangers. It's a worry.
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Gah I hope its not him, If it happens I hope it happens quickly and gives us enough time to sort a replacement
 
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skybluegod

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,662
Alkhen said:
Gah I hope its not him, If it happens I hope it happens quickly and gives us enough time to sort a replacement
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They don't have the funds to sign Hamer for any significant fee at the moment. Gerrard has already admitted they need a significant sale themselves to balance the books.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,663
skybluegod said:
They don't have the funds to sign Hamer for any significant feed at the moment. Gerrard has already admitted they need a significant sale themselves to balance the books.
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Pretty much this, they are looking at a 40 million hole in their budget now they are out of the champions league. They are likely to need to sell players just to balance the books this year.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,664
CovLad94 said:
So...this last loan signing, hopefully today or tomorrow, could do with extra backup in the LWB department.
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I would rather a perminant LWB rather than another McCallum, Giles situation
 

Samo

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #7,665
skybluegod said:
They don't have the funds to sign Hamer for any significant feed at the moment. Gerrard has already admitted they need a significant sale themselves to balance the books.
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What would you say is a significant fee?
 
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