Ccfcisparks
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Right so Robins is leaving then
Right so Robins is leaving thenFair enough.
Why do you think we are now after Bright? Patersons gone quiet about the same time hasnt it?
We were all shocked at Waghorn as he doesnt fit the usual recruitment model. Same as Simon Moore.
And thats because both were way down MR's shopping list
Walsh, James, Collins, Paterson all approached, and all missed out on for the sake of a grand or 2 a week here and there. We're not talking the huge differences in money offered by other clubs either, contrary to what people may think.
Why do you think that for the first time in MR's tenure here hes got 2 players in 4 weeks before the first game, when other pre seasons hes over halfway through his recruitment?
I'm not saying he's walking, far from it, but if you think that this summer has gone swimmingly and the bloke isnt cheesed off and had a few stern words with Boddy et al, then you're thinking wrong.
There's only so long you can give a man buttons to build a squad capable of cementing a side, and when after all hes done for us he still isnt being given what he thinks he deserves i can see why there's been some kerfuffle.
Anyway. I await the usual 'you know fucking nothing' or 'you're just stirring shit' or 'you're a wanker' comments
Right so Robins is leaving then
Ok so Robins isn’t leavintCan you read?
'Im not saying Robins is leaving, far from it' is what i said
We are fielding the U23s tomorrowFair enough.
Why do you think we are now after Bright? Patersons gone quiet about the same time hasnt it?
We were all shocked at Waghorn as he doesnt fit the usual recruitment model. Same as Simon Moore.
And thats because both were way down MR's shopping list
Walsh, James, Collins, Paterson all approached, and all missed out on for the sake of a grand or 2 a week here and there. We're not talking the huge differences in money offered by other clubs either, contrary to what people may think.
Why do you think that for the first time in MR's tenure here hes got 2 players in 4 weeks before the first game, when other pre seasons hes over halfway through his recruitment?
I'm not saying he's walking, far from it, but if you think that this summer has gone swimmingly and the bloke isnt cheesed off and had a few stern words with Boddy et al, then you're thinking wrong.
There's only so long you can give a man buttons to build a squad capable of cementing a side, and when after all hes done for us he still isnt being given what he thinks he deserves i can see why there's been some kerfuffle.
Anyway. I await the usual 'you know fucking nothing' or 'you're just stirring shit' or 'you're a wanker' comments
Fair enough.
Why do you think we are now after Bright? Patersons gone quiet about the same time hasnt it?
We were all shocked at Waghorn as he doesnt fit the usual recruitment model. Same as Simon Moore.
And thats because both were way down MR's shopping list
Walsh, James, Collins, Paterson all approached, and all missed out on for the sake of a grand or 2 a week here and there. We're not talking the huge differences in money offered by other clubs either, contrary to what people may think.
Why do you think that for the first time in MR's tenure here hes got 2 players in 4 weeks before the first game, when other pre seasons hes over halfway through his recruitment?
I'm not saying he's walking, far from it, but if you think that this summer has gone swimmingly and the bloke isnt cheesed off and had a few stern words with Boddy et al, then you're thinking wrong.
There's only so long you can give a man buttons to build a squad capable of cementing a side, and when after all hes done for us he still isnt being given what he thinks he deserves i can see why there's been some kerfuffle.
Anyway. I await the usual 'you know fucking nothing' or 'you're just stirring shit' or 'you're a wanker' comments
I'm not saying you are wrong but to think we could realistically compeat with Swansea is just daft. They are mile ahead of us in stature, finances and what they can offer in terms of career opportunities for young players.
2nd season is always a tricky one, we are no longer bottom feeders but also not quite established we are sort of between where we look for players at the moment. It'll come good. All managers moan it's natural
And how reliable is this information or your “source”?Fair enough.
Why do you think we are now after Bright? Patersons gone quiet about the same time hasnt it?
We were all shocked at Waghorn as he doesnt fit the usual recruitment model. Same as Simon Moore.
And thats because both were way down MR's shopping list
Walsh, James, Collins, Paterson all approached, and all missed out on for the sake of a grand or 2 a week here and there. We're not talking the huge differences in money offered by other clubs either, contrary to what people may think.
Why do you think that for the first time in MR's tenure here hes got 2 players in 4 weeks before the first game, when other pre seasons hes over halfway through his recruitment?
I'm not saying he's walking, far from it, but if you think that this summer has gone swimmingly and the bloke isnt cheesed off and had a few stern words with Boddy et al, then you're thinking wrong.
There's only so long you can give a man buttons to build a squad capable of cementing a side, and when after all hes done for us he still isnt being given what he thinks he deserves i can see why there's been some kerfuffle.
Anyway. I await the usual 'you know fucking nothing' or 'you're just stirring shit' or 'you're a wanker' comments
Thanks for sharing,but I'm not exactly surprised at the level of deals or who they are,unless we were selling an asset, or Richard thingymajingy was gifting some funds again.Fair enough.
Why do you think we are now after Bright? Patersons gone quiet about the same time hasnt it?
We were all shocked at Waghorn as he doesnt fit the usual recruitment model. Same as Simon Moore.
And thats because both were way down MR's shopping list
Walsh, James, Collins, Paterson all approached, and all missed out on for the sake of a grand or 2 a week here and there. We're not talking the huge differences in money offered by other clubs either, contrary to what people may think.
Why do you think that for the first time in MR's tenure here hes got 2 players in 4 weeks before the first game, when other pre seasons hes over halfway through his recruitment?
I'm not saying he's walking, far from it, but if you think that this summer has gone swimmingly and the bloke isnt cheesed off and had a few stern words with Boddy et al, then you're thinking wrong.
There's only so long you can give a man buttons to build a squad capable of cementing a side, and when after all hes done for us he still isnt being given what he thinks he deserves i can see why there's been some kerfuffle.
Anyway. I await the usual 'you know fucking nothing' or 'you're just stirring shit' or 'you're a wanker' comments
And how reliable is this information or your “source”?
Think they need to shake that money tree.Oh i agree. But again, only what I've been told, but his frustration is apparently that he feels if were going to capitalise on solidifying ourselves as a championship club, its this season when other clubs are floundering under embargos, severe financial issues etc.
Hes not wanting the world, understands of course that we are still a small fish in a big pond financially, hes just wanting that little bit more to get 2 or 3 of his first choice targets over the line.
And so far no budging. Hence the words being exchanged
Think they need to shake that money tree.
Not quite what I’ve heard but we are competing for players to improve our squad. Bright nothing to do with being lower down the list. Paterson will be one of many players offers have been made to, players taking their time too, especially if they have offers. I think you’re friends or contact are putting two and two together and getting 6Oh i agree. But again, only what I've been told, but his frustration is apparently that he feels if were going to capitalise on solidifying ourselves as a championship club, its this season when other clubs are floundering under embargos, severe financial issues etc.
Hes not wanting the world, understands of course that we are still a small fish in a big pond financially, hes just wanting that little bit more to get 2 or 3 of his first choice targets over the line.
And so far no budging. Hence the words being exchanged
Not quite what I’ve heard but we are competing for players to improve our squad. Bright nothing to do with being lower down the list. Paterson will be one of many players offers have been made to, players taking their time too, especially if they have offers. I think you’re friends or contact are putting two and two together and getting 6
Boddy and robins are told the budget and work to make it work. Fisher does the job of talking to the owner about any changes to the squad. I would have thought there could be wriggle room this season but the reality is that last year without income will have had an impact. The wriggle room is exactly what saddle is saying. If by investing £1m you could argue that you are paying the equivalent of £4m or £10m in normal seasons then why not.
If we announce gyokeres and another couple as the itk guys have said this comment would look daft
To be fair though we all only know what we knowb
Id be amazed if we had missed out on our number 1 target of James by £1k a weekNot quite what I’ve heard but we are competing for players to improve our squad. Bright nothing to do with being lower down the list. Paterson will be one of many players offers have been made to, players taking their time too, especially if they have offers. I think you’re friends or contact are putting two and two together and getting 6
Boddy and robins are told the budget and work to make it work. Fisher does the job of talking to the owner about any changes to the squad. I would have thought there could be wriggle room this season but the reality is that last year without income will have had an impact. The wriggle room is exactly what saddle is saying. If by investing £1m you could argue that you are paying the equivalent of £4m or £10m in normal seasons then why not.
If we announce gyokeres and another couple as the itk guys have said this comment would look daft
To be fair though we all only know what we knowb
Id be amazed if we had missed out on our number 1 target of James by £1k a week
Yeah that’s right to be fair. Could imagine we have offered similar wages but Bristol could stump up a greater signing on feeNot that unbelievable. Say it was 2k it Equates to 104 Grand a year end of the day.
Signing fee (fo example know nothing on that) but say we offered 50k, Bristol 60k..
Even on a 1 year contract thats Him better off by 114k for the year. Fine margins n all that
Fair enough.
Why do you think we are now after Bright? Patersons gone quiet about the same time hasnt it?
We were all shocked at Waghorn as he doesnt fit the usual recruitment model. Same as Simon Moore.
And thats because both were way down MR's shopping list
Walsh, James, Collins, Paterson all approached, and all missed out on for the sake of a grand or 2 a week here and there. We're not talking the huge differences in money offered by other clubs either, contrary to what people may think.
Why do you think that for the first time in MR's tenure here hes got 2 players in 4 weeks before the first game, when other pre seasons hes over halfway through his recruitment?
I'm not saying he's walking, far from it, but if you think that this summer has gone swimmingly and the bloke isnt cheesed off and had a few stern words with Boddy et al, then you're thinking wrong.
There's only so long you can give a man buttons to build a squad capable of cementing a side, and when after all hes done for us he still isnt being given what he thinks he deserves i can see why there's been some kerfuffle.
Anyway. I await the usual 'you know fucking nothing' or 'you're just stirring shit' or 'you're a wanker' comments
Well Fisher did always go on about budget difficulties if we got here.I wish we had one, we all know what Sisu can be like. They've ran us well the last few years though tbh.
I can kind of get Robins frustration though. Rock and a hard place. Knows hes not got loads to spunk away but surely earnt some extra financial trust with the miracles hes worked the last 4 years. Tough one
Something is happening though isn’t it?
If we’ve only missed out on James by £1k then I’m more heartened. Isn’t he rumoured to be getting 20k, how many years did we offer him? I mean we could have offered 2 years and BC could have offered 3Not that unbelievable. Say it was 2k it Equates to 104 Grand a year end of the day.
Signing fee (fo example know nothing on that) but say we offered 50k, Bristol 60k..
Even on a 1 year contract thats Him better off by 114k for the year. Fine margins n all that
Here we go this is why he didnt wanna speak in the first placeAnd how reliable is this information or your “source”?
Not sure this makes a ton of sense tbh - had to 'settle' for players like Waghorn and Moore who don't fit the model (young, can be developed)....after missing out on Collins, Paterson etc who......also don't fit the model. Not saying he isn't frustrated - he might be. But we're improving positions (Moore is better than Marosi, Waghorn is better than both Bakayoko and Biamou)...and competing for better players where there will naturally be more competition. Whilst managing the after effects of a pandemic. Let's see where we end up but I dont think it's panic stations yet.
I noticed that, It seems coincidental that they have stopped doing the preseason reports/photos/twitter videos on the back of covid positive tests.I'm in no position to disagree with the general theme that we are struggling to compete with other clubs, but that doesn't explain why the training reports have dried up
We’re we confirmed as being in for Walsh?Collins, James and now Walsh. Its certainly concerning.
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This would suggest we were in for himWe’re we confirmed as being in for Walsh?
We’re we confirmed as being in for Walsh?
That's because it's nonsensical. (Not to dig out Saddlebrains as he's only passing on what he heard).
Four years into his time at the club and Robins is suddenly coming to blows with Boddy due to the lack of resources budget - baring in mind there's just been a global pandemic that has nigh on crippled some clubs financially. It doesn't make sense.
Robins isn't naive he knows what the situation is at the club and is well aware of the constraints he's under. He's also previously stated that securing his primary targets is far more difficult than most people believe - and I think that was in League One so inevitably I'm sure he's aware that this would've only got worse in a higher division where we simply cannot compete financially.
He probably is having a difficult summer but so are the majority of managers throughout the EFL.
Any idea if we're still in for Patterson?We did submit an offer yes. He wasn't number one though, James was
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