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jim20

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #1,471
Disappointed we’ve got templates this season, after having bespoke most seasons with Hummel it’s a big let down. They look ok, but could’ve been so much better especially after all the effort and thought that went into last season. They almost set themselves up to fail
 
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AJB1983

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #1,472
jim20 said:
Disappointed we’ve got templates this season, after having bespoke most seasons with Hummel it’s a big let down. They look ok, but could’ve been so much better especially after all the effort and thought that went into last season. They almost set themselves up to fail
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There’s only one that is a ‘template’ and that’s cos it’s their 100th anniversary and a lot of clubs have had it. So I get that.
the home is bespoke and the red away is arguably not a template, albeit very similar but not identical to Bremen.
 

jim20

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #1,473
AJB1983 said:
There’s only one that is a ‘template’ and that’s cos it’s their 100th anniversary and a lot of clubs have had it. So I get that.
the home is bespoke and the red away is arguably not a template, albeit very similar but not identical to Bremen.
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To me the away kit looks exactly like Bremens just different colours. I’m happy with it don’t get me wrong. It’s just usually over the last few seasons the kits have been the best thing about the summer for the club, this season with all the good players coming in, the record season ticket sales etc. the kits seem to be a bit of a let down
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #1,474
Sky Blue Pete said:
View attachment 30982I really like the second kit
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Trick the opponent into thinking a wormhole has opened up next to our player. Clever.
 
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its a buzzard

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #1,475
Greggs said:
Been a wet summer so I'm hoping for a good harvest this year. Last year was dreadful.
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Have you tried licking cane toads?

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Greggs

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #1,476
its a buzzard said:
Have you tried licking cane toads?

Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk
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No, but I've got some frogs in the pond and you've just given me an idea.
 
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Jcap

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #1,477
Anyone notice the Hummel logo moved to be centred around the stripe now as opposed to it being off centre for the kit reveal? Spotted it on Jay da Silva interview. Sad git that I am
 
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AiS86

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #1,478
Jcap said:
Anyone notice the Hummel logo moved to be centred around the stripe now as opposed to it being off centre for the kit reveal? Spotted it on Jay da Silva interview. Sad git that I am
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As a fellow sad git, I'll raise you, his seems to be the only one with it like that. Would the size of the shirt make a difference like Boylesports on the tramlines before? He is a bit of a short arse
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #1,479
Jcap said:
Anyone notice the Hummel logo moved to be centred around the stripe now as opposed to it being off centre for the kit reveal? Spotted it on Jay da Silva interview. Sad git that I am
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What ever floats your boat.
 

Garlana86

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #1,480
Anyone got their pre ordered top yet? Must admit I impulse bought mine but didn't check anything around it's dispatch.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #1,481
Garlana86 said:
Anyone got their pre ordered top yet? Must admit I impulse bought mine but didn't check anything around it's dispatch.
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Not being dispatched until August 11th. Day before the 3rd game of the season

Still. There wasnt any issue with sourcing a sponsor remember
 

Frostie

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #1,482
Away keeper kit looks smart.

 
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WillenhallSkyBlues

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #1,483


Away and third kids already on sale on DHgate so the Chinese factories must have already been making them
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,484
WillenhallSkyBlues said:
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Away and third kids already on sale on DHgate so the Chinese factories must have already been making them
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They all look dodgy and wrong although Im not surprised as they aren’t the real thing
 

Garlana86

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,485
Saddlebrains said:
Not being dispatched until August 11th. Day before the 3rd game of the season

Still. There wasnt any issue with sourcing a sponsor remember
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That's actually bonkers and disappointing.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,486
The Chinese get cracking on dodgy kits as soon as a leaked image appears, have to admire the work ethic. They're so ahead of it you can often buy kits that were from falsely leaked images or just concept kits
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,487
Surely have to reveal the away kit today.
 

lewys33

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,488
3rd kit I am not a huge fan of but see why others have sentimental attachment to it as I feel the same to the away kit ...

People do seem to rant on here a lot about minor details though ... do they realise the club make about £2 off of each shirt sale (that is fact - don't ask me to prove it or 12 baby kittens will be sacrificed).
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,489
lewys33 said:
3rd kit I am not a huge fan of but see why others have sentimental attachment to it as I feel the same to the away kit ...

People do seem to rant on here a lot about minor details though ... do they realise the club make about £2 off of each shirt sale (that is fact - don't ask me to prove it or 12 baby kittens will be sacrificed).
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Spoke to the bloke who runs the club shop last time i was in there (months back) i asked that question, we get 60% of each shirt sale which i dont think is that bad
 
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lewys33

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,490
Saddlebrains said:
Spoke to the bloke who runs the club shop last time i was in there (months back) i asked that question, we get 60% of each shirt sale which i dont think is that bad
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my comment was tongue in cheek but I would be shocked if we get 60% ... Plenty of models out there suggest a club get in the region of 5-15% if they are lucky.

Unless we buy direct from Hummel and we are the vendor (but I didn't think that was the case)? Even then I would say 60% is high.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,491
lewys33 said:
my comment was tongue in cheek but I would be shocked if we get 60% ... Plenty of models out there suggest a club get in the region of 5-15% if they are lucky.

Unless we buy direct from Hummel and we are the vendor (but I didn't think that was the case)? Even then I would say 60% is high.
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does seem high but it could be that our set up is different than the norm. The kits do seem to take longer to get ordered/manufactured than other teams.

After Elite went tits up didn't we have to pay everything upfront for the stock. Im wondering if they have just kept this going, more initial outlay but much higher profits
 

biggymania

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,492
The 10-15% figure seems low, if you look at something like this:



This is for a shirt sold via a 3rd party (like Sports Direct). So in Coventry's case, we'd own the marketing, distribution & retail cut. So essentially everything but the manufacturing, VAT & cost numbers here.

If you total that up it's ~45%. So 60% probably closer to the truth than 10-15%. And note that the cost here likely is crudely measuring the raw cost of the materials - all those "departments" taking their cut have their own costs to pay. So gross profit much lower. Of course the mail would go with the headline grabbing "EIGHTY POUND SHIRT COSTS JUST EIGHT QUID!!!!!!" angle.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,493
Just trying to do some basic maths here then…

 
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rob9872

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,494
biggymania said:
The 10-15% figure seems low, if you look at something like this:

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This is for a shirt sold via a 3rd party (like Sports Direct). So in Coventry's case, we'd own the marketing, distribution & retail cut. So essentially everything but the manufacturing, VAT & cost numbers here.

If you total that up it's ~45%. So 60% probably closer to the truth than 10-15%. And note that the cost here likely is crudely measuring the raw cost of the materials - all those "departments" taking their cut have their own costs to pay. So gross profit much lower. Of course the mail would go with the headline grabbing "EIGHTY POUND SHIRT COSTS JUST EIGHT QUID!!!!!!" angle.
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Someone has clearly made that up as they have cost to make and the manufacturer listed separately when one is part of the other. I also dont get where marketing comes from since most will be their own web/social media etc. if they are incurring costs then that still needs to be added to their share as it's so hidden. Delivery is charged separately (I've just been on their site) and this is one version at £80. there is an 'authentic; at £110 which clearly doenst cost another £30 to manufacture.

It mentions retailer too now presumably that is where eg Sports Direct or someone else sell it on their behalf. No way would someone like Utd allow a retailer to make £26 and them less than £5. Thesy might get a commission for selling it on their behalf more likely the other way round but at worst would be 50/50 of profits.
 

lewys33

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,495
jesus christ ...

 
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,496
Evo1883 said:
Hummel should hire the Covcept guy .. makes bangers left right and centre
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They’re on top form today

 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,497
JimmyHillsbeard said:
They’re on top form today

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I like that this is so authentic it even has the broken Ryton window in there!
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,498
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Surely have to reveal the away kit today.
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Don't need an away kit for Sunday, played in Sky Blue away at Shrewsbury and they played in dark blue, just like Leicester.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,499
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Don't need an away kit for Sunday, played in Sky Blue away at Shrewsbury and they played in dark blue, just like Leicester.
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It’s more the fact that’s leaked and everyone’s seen it. Don’t know why bother delaying it at this point.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,500
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
They all look dodgy and wrong although Im not surprised as they aren’t the real thing
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DHgate's are usually spot on depending on the vender. The images all ways look slightly off as they seem to think it makes it slightly less illegal
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,501
Lads, they can't release the away until they have convinced Fraser Group to be the main sponsor so SaddleBrains can pretend to be right again.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,502
David O'Day said:
Lads, they can't release the away until they have convinced Fraser Group to be the main sponsor so SaddleBrains can pretend to be right again.
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Il accept that one Mathew
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,503
SeaSeeEffCee said:
It’s more the fact that’s leaked and everyone’s seen it. Don’t know why bother delaying it at this point.
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I think it's because Cov are not priority for the kit manufacturers.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,504
Based on these latest disasters, it’s really time the club worked with someone else other than Hummel. Design and quality are poor for a £50 shirt
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #1,505
Ashdown said:
Based on these latest disasters, it’s really time the club worked with someone else other than Hummel. Design and quality are poor for a £50 shirt
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I’d like to see us move to Umbro.
 
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