2015 / 16 squad (1 Viewer)

chiefdave · May 3, 2015

Who do we have that's actually under contract to still be here next season?

edit: this is from an old post I found.

Players who are out of contract in the summer:

Frank Nouble
Marcus Tudgay
Simeon Jackson
Shaun Miller
Andy Webster
Adam Barton
Ivor Lawton
Blair Turgott
Kyle Spence
George Thomas
Devon Kelly-Evans
Dion Kelly-Evans

12 players

Out of contract players with options

Reda Johnson - negotiation clause for a further year
Jordan Willis - option of a further year
Danny Pugh - option of a further year

3 players

The eleven players under contract

Goalkeepers: Lee Burge, Reice Charles-Cook
Defenders: Ryan Haynes, Aaron Martin, Aaron Phillips
Midfielders: Conor Thomas, John Fleck, Jack Finch, Jim O'Brien, Danny Swanson
Forwards: James Maddison

11 players

And of course Mowbray out of contract.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · May 3, 2015

Who do we have on contract AND worth keeping ?
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Jack Griffin · May 3, 2015

you got me there

Danceswithhorses · May 3, 2015

Wagott
Fisher
Sepalla
...they will be looked after

chiefdave · May 3, 2015

Found an old thread with some details, I'll update the post.

ccfcway · May 3, 2015

Players who are contracted to the club

Burge, Charles-Cook, Haynes, Martin, Phillips, Thomas, Fleck, Finch, O'Brien, Swanson, Maddison

Out of contract players with options

Johnson, Willis, Pugh

Nick · May 3, 2015

Wonder if a good manager to get Swanson playing properly.

stupot07 · May 3, 2015

ccfcway said:
[h=3]Players who are contracted to the club[/h]Goalkeepers: Lee Burge, Reice Charles-Cook
Defenders: Ryan Haynes, Aaron Martin, Aaron Phillips
Midfielders: Conor Thomas, John Fleck, Jack Finch, Jim O'Brien, Danny Swanson
Forwards: James Maddison

[h=3]Out of contract players with options[/h]Reda Johnson - negotiation clause for a further year
Jordan Willis - option of a further year
Danny Pugh - option of a further year

Hopefully we can offload a couple more of those then do a complete rebuild in the summer.

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chiefdave · May 3, 2015

That gives a lot of room for TM, if he stays, to rebuild. Lets hope its the last time we have to completely overhaul the squad.

Otis · May 3, 2015

chiefdave said:
Who do we have that's actually under contract to still be here next season?

edit: this is from an old post I found.

Players who are out of contract in the summer:

Frank Nouble - Get rid!
Marcus Tudgay - Not sure.
Simeon Jackson - Get rid!
Shaun Miller - Get rid!
Andy Webster - I will drive him back to Scotland myself.
Adam Barton - Get rid!
Ivor Lawton - Keep
Blair Turgott - Get rid!
Kyle Spence - Keep
George Thomas - Keep
Devon Kelly-Evans - Keep
Dion Kelly-Evans - Keep

12 players

Out of contract players with options

Reda Johnson - negotiation clause for a further year - Keep, if TM's new fitness regime idea works.
Jordan Willis - option of a further year - Keep
Danny Pugh - option of a further year - Who?

3 players

The eleven players under contract

Goalkeepers: Lee Burge, Reice Charles-Cook - Keep
Defenders: Ryan Haynes, Aaron Martin, Aaron Phillips - Get rid of Martin
Midfielders: Conor Thomas, John Fleck, Jack Finch, Jim O'Brien, Danny Swanson - Get rid of Thomas & Fleck. Thought Swanson had already gone. Send Finch out on season long loan.
Forwards: James Maddison - Keep

11 players

And of course Mowbray out of contract.

Skyblueweeman · May 3, 2015

The thing is with Nouble, Tudgay and Jackson, they're not actually bad pedigree and especially Tudgay and Jackson, they have decent pedigree for this level.

Could a full pre-season with TM and an overhaul of the midfield dept result in more effective performances from them? I'm not saying I'd expect any of them to be number 1 up top next season, but they'd be useful to have as squad players next season.

Nick · May 3, 2015

Depends on their wages whether they could be bench players though.

chiefdave · May 3, 2015

Agree with that Otis, think Swanson is just out on loan isn't he? Johnson should be offered a deal that's based around appearances, lower basic and bigger appearance bonus.

Philosoraptor · May 3, 2015

Reda- I would let go. Use the money to go elsewhere. It's not just the money for him but also the money for the player that needs to cover when he decides not to play.

Would rather have money spent in strengthening midfield.

stupot07 · May 3, 2015

Skyblueweeman said:
The thing is with Nouble, Tudgay and Jackson, they're not actually bad pedigree and especially Tudgay and Jackson, they have decent pedigree for this level.

Could a full pre-season with TM and an overhaul of the midfield dept result in more effective performances from them? I'm not saying I'd expect any of them to be number 1 up top next season, but they'd be useful to have as squad players next season.

I will be v pissed off if we start the season with all 3 of Tudgay, Nouble and Jackson in the squad. Probably 3 of the highest earners, have consistently failed to deliver this season. The fact the our joint highest goalscorers in the league have a mere 6 goals tells me all I need to know about our strikers.

Our midfield needs an overhaul. Fleck, Barton, Thomas and ward all failed to score this season, only JOB of our orthodox midfield players has scored this season.

As I said on another thread, if we have any ambitions next season we need players who consistently play well for 4 out of 5 games, not 1 good game every 8.

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Deleted member 5849 · May 3, 2015

Skyblueweeman said:
The thing is with Nouble, Tudgay and Jackson, they're not actually bad pedigree and especially Tudgay and Jackson, they have decent pedigree for this level.

We've got to stop signing players on what they've done in the past, has to be what they can do in the future.

Otis · May 3, 2015

stupot07 said:
I will be v pissed off if we start the season with all 3 of Tudgay, Nouble and Jackson in the squad. Probably 3 of the highest earners, have consistently failed to deliver this season.

Our midfield needs an overhaul. Fleck, Barton, Thomas and ward all failed to score this season, only JOB of our orthodox midfield players has scored this season.

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Yep. I would say Nouble doesn't have the pedigree. Pointless being able to turn a tap on every 6 games or so. Utterly pointless. Jackson to me, looks shot and even Tudgay doesn't have a very good goals per game ratio over his career. He'd be the only I'd consider keeping from those 3 there.

I would get rid of Fleck, Barton AND Thomas if it was down to me. Fleck especially should be getting his name on the scoresheet.

Deleted member 5849 · May 3, 2015

Otis said:
I would get rid of Fleck, Barton AND Thomas if it was down to me. Fleck especially should be getting his name on the scoresheet.

I'd actually keep Thomas of the three, as at least he does some disruptive work. The other pair are creative players who don't do much creating recently! Could see Fleck in particular going on and doing well elsewhere but, tbh, if so, so be it. We can't keep somebody just in the hope it's next season he comes good.

Ashdown · May 3, 2015

Skyblueweeman said:
The thing is with Nouble, Tudgay and Jackson, they're not actually bad pedigree and especially Tudgay and Jackson, they have decent pedigree for this level.

Could a full pre-season with TM and an overhaul of the midfield dept result in more effective performances from them? I'm not saying I'd expect any of them to be number 1 up top next season, but they'd be useful to have as squad players next season.

Their wages were probably at the top end of the scale though.................would they represent value ? I'd say no, so get hungry players in who don't think they are bigger than the club, even at this level.

Jack Griffin · May 3, 2015

Tudgay wants to stay. http://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/marcus-tudgay-post-crawley-coventry-city-league-one-2438163.aspx

PS this article confirms he is out of contract this summer.

Skyblueweeman · May 3, 2015

I'm not saying Nouble, Tudgay or Jackson should be in our starting 11 next season and I'm not saying they should be on the same wages as this season.

My point being that TM has worked with them for two months, that's all. I totally agree that the midfield needs an overhaul. If TM can get a decent midfield who can provide decent service and work with the three players mentioned (and they accept a pay cut), they would be good to have as squad players.

I totally agree that we shouldn't sign players on past legacies but by the same token, we can't write them off totally after one season which was managed by an inept manager with a shit midfield.

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ccfcway · May 3, 2015

Tudgay has showed something, Jackson has showed nothing

ccfc92 · May 3, 2015

Apologies, didn't see this thread Nick

covcity4life · May 3, 2015

I would keep

Burge as back up
Reda
Martin
Phillips
Haynes
Willis
Fleck
Thomas
Job
Maddison
Nouble

And add to that with mowbray signings and loans.

Think would make for a strong squad.

ccfc92 · May 3, 2015

Reading what we will have left, I'm glad we can say adios to most of them.

Hopefully we sign TM on a 2 year contract, and he can get his scouting network in full swing and rebuild this debacle of a club

Hobo · May 3, 2015

I would probably give Tudgay and Johnson another year. The rest I would probably shed.
The contracted players Inwould keep although I would off load Swanson if I could.

Otis · May 3, 2015

covcity4life said:
I would keep

Burge as back up
Reda
Martin
Phillips
Haynes
Willis
Fleck
Thomas
Job
Maddison
Nouble

And add to that with mowbray signings and loans.

Think would make for a strong squad.

You would keep Nouble?

Can I ask why? I was an advocate of his earlier in the season, when I saw what he was capable of, but unfortunately he seems to have about one good game in 6-10 matches and he doesn't score anywhere near enough.

Can't see any logical reason to keep him.

covcity4life · May 3, 2015

cos he is capable of outclassing every other play on the pitch at times. when he works hard it usualy leads to good things like today. he didnt knoe results were going our way, but he assisted maddisons goal. a few players with genuine skill can eleveate a team in this league. we have maddision but hes so young, a bit of class elsewhere on pitch could pay dividends.

im not saying he should be a starter,but to have him in our squad can be a good thing imo

it all depends on if TM thinks he can get him playing more consisntly or not.

CCFCKirky · May 3, 2015

This is what I would do:
Keep:
burge
Reece
willis
martin
Haynes
phillips
johnson- pay as you play deal
fleck
JOB
Swanson - give him until January and if he still can't play then get rid
Maddison
tudgay

definatly get rid of Webster, nouble, Barton and Jackson
try and get Pennington, Samuel and ward back on season long loans, undecided about stokes

Terry Gibson's perm · May 3, 2015

Otis said:
You would keep Nouble?

Can I ask why? I was an advocate of his earlier in the season, when I saw what he was capable of, but unfortunately he seems to have about one good game in 6-10 matches and he doesn't score anywhere near enough.

Can't see any logical reason to keep him.

I am not sure that you are right on Nouble, he has a good 10 or 15 minutes every 4 our 5 games but in that time he is so good we all think he had a good game.

I would be happy if somebody came in for Fleck and Martin of the ones that are out of contract pretty much all of them can go.

skybluegod · May 3, 2015

I think people are being way too lenient on players too keep. Sure some of them have shown flashes but they are the reason we are where we are. Swanson can't get a game up north either. He has to go, Martin isn't bad but inconsistent, Nouble would have to take a huge paycut if I would even consider it.
It may seem harsh as they have shown flashes, but if we are going to progress sometimes you need to be ruthless. These players are good on the counter, but under TM, he wants to dominate games and so that needs a new type of player.

Gaz71 · May 3, 2015

Is Danny Pugh still on our books?

Terry Gibson's perm · May 3, 2015

k-drizzle said:
Is Danny Pugh still on our books?

What did he injure I can't even remember?

Cov City Daytrader 87 · May 3, 2015

CCFCKirky said:
This is what I would do:
Keep:
burge
Reece
willis
martin
Haynes
phillips
johnson- pay as you play deal
fleck
JOB
Swanson - give him until January and if he still can't play then get rid
Maddison
tudgay

definatly get rid of Webster, nouble, Barton and Jackson
try and get Pennington, Samuel and ward back on season long loans, undecided about stokes

You've missed Conor Thomas off your list.

CCFCKirky · May 3, 2015

Cov City Daytrader 87 said:
You've missed Conor Thomas off your list.

I would get rid of Thomas

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