17 goal a season striker (1 Viewer)

We'll_live_and_die · Sep 14, 2011

I have just been doing some research. Who here would be happy if we had a 17 goal a season striker?

We actually do already. Mcsheffrey 2005/2006 scored 17. No-one has scored more in one season since 1997/1998 when Dion Dublin got 23.

Just goes to show if you show a player the goal he will score, if you shove him on the wing like last season, he won't. I know he's older, but you can't really say he's past it yet, the boy is only 29.

I hadn't really thought about it, but what about Juke and Sheffers up front with a creative midfielder at the tip (struggling to think who could do this in the current squad)?

Gaz · Sep 14, 2011

We really could do with McSheff helping out with some goals this season, for the time being I would keep him at the tip of the diamond formation as at times last season I thought he was starting to look good.

We'll_live_and_die · Sep 14, 2011

Maybe though we should play him up front and bring in an attacking midfielder loanee?

PVA · Sep 14, 2011

We've just spent £400k on a striker, no way are we going to leave him on the bench!

We'll_live_and_die · Sep 14, 2011

We needed backup whether he is on the bench or not. Just cause we bought him doesn't mean we have to play him, if we have a proven player at this level in that position then we should favour him.

Sky Blue Sheepy · Sep 14, 2011

Still prefer Juke and McDonald upfront with Sheffers behind them at the tip of the diamond. Worked pretty well last season

Sky Blue M · Sep 14, 2011

You do realise he was on the wing when he scored that. Stern John and Dele Adebola were upfront and Sheff was on the Left.

oldskyblue58 · Sep 14, 2011

Isnt the reason we bought McDonald the fact he scored 25 last season Rich ? Surely we have to give him a chance ?

I think the reason Sheffers works at the tip of the diamond is that he is hard to pick up there and doesnt need to get involved in the more physical side of the game. Play him in the front two and he is constantly going to be up against the bigger defenders, and having lost some pace he is going to be less effective. He has freedom at the tip of the diamond he doesnt have being in the front two

We'll_live_and_die · Sep 14, 2011

oldskyblue58 said:
Isnt the reason we bought McDonald the fact he scored 25 last season Rich ? Surely we have to give him a chance ?

I think the reason Sheffers works at the tip of the diamond is that he is hard to pick up there and doesnt need to get involved in the more physical side of the game. Play him in the front two and he is constantly going to be up against the bigger defenders, and having lost some pace he is going to be less effective. He has freedom at the tip of the diamond he doesnt have being in the front two

Yes he did score 25 in league 2. Just thinking about options here OSB. No-one says Mcdonald will set the world on fire here, didn't Eastwood do amazingly at a lower level?

Just thinking about contingency really.

smileycov · Sep 14, 2011

Sheffers hasn't looked anything like the player that left us though has he? i think give Cody a shot and hopefully sheff can chip in from the tip posistion. If he is gonna score from upfront, there is no reason he cant score a few from there.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Sep 14, 2011

1) Mcsheffery was a better player then
2) Mcsheffery played left wing then
3) Pretty sure a lot of them goals were pens
4) Mcsheffery was awful against Leicester up front,

Mumford and Daughter · Sep 14, 2011

CCFC said:
1) Mcsheffery was a better player then
2) Mcsheffery played left wing then
3) Pretty sure a lot of them goals were pens
4) Mcsheffery was awful against Leicester up front,

Exactly, in Cov shirt i only remember 2 or 3 seasons MAX where he was decent. Always been an over-rated player, if he wasn't from Cov alot of fans would put him in the Eastwood bracket.

Astute · Sep 14, 2011

What we need is two strikers and then others that can score helping out. If Sheffers plays in an attacking midfield position it will be like having another striker on the pitch whilst attacking.

WillieStanley · Sep 14, 2011

Didn't he start up front against Liecester? The fella looked lost! I reckon he's most dangerous from midfield, if he wants to be

torchomatic · Sep 14, 2011

Ah, the old 'he only scores penalties' myth. Check his stats on soccerbase.

CCFC said:
1) Mcsheffery was a better player then
2) Mcsheffery played left wing then
3) Pretty sure a lot of them goals were pens
4) Mcsheffery was awful against Leicester up front,

SkyBlueScottie · Sep 14, 2011

He scored the 17 while playing from the left, he will get some joy working in the space created by Juke upon his return.

Last season was the highest amount of games he has played for a while and it should stand him in good stead for this season.

lordsummerisle · Sep 14, 2011

Rich said:
I have just been doing some research. Who here would be happy if we had a 17 goal a season striker?

We actually do already. Mcsheffrey 2005/2006 scored 17. No-one has scored more in one season since 1997/1998 when Dion Dublin got 23.

Mifsud got 17 2007/8 season.

We'll_live_and_die · Sep 14, 2011

Yes but he isn't with the club anymore

lordsummerisle · Sep 14, 2011

Rich said:
Yes but he didn't get more than 17 did he.

So only strikers who have got more than 17 goals in a season count then?

That's McSheffrey out of the running from the looks of it, which rather dilutes your point.

lordsummerisle · Sep 14, 2011

Rich said:
No I said that we already had a striker who has scored 17 in a season for us. The last time anyone scored more than that was Dion. Further to my point, is Mifsud still with us? No! so wtf has that got to do with us already having a 17 goal a season player?

Darling (said in a rather camp manner)

Not really disagreeing, always a chance of goals with McSheffrey, but would prefer him wide of a front three or on the wing contributing the goals.

He is much more accurate than Juke(Then again,a Met Office long term weather forecast is more accurate than Juke)

ccfcdan · Sep 14, 2011

Sheffer's is living on his past records, He needs to start doing something this season else he will not get a new deal and could find himself falling through the leagues. Would like to see him get a good run of games on the left of the diamond.

oldskyblue58 · Sep 14, 2011

Dont think left of diamond is a good idea because of his defensive frailties. Would leave Hussey very exposed and isolated. Tip of the diamond I think is better

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Sep 14, 2011

torchomatic said:
Ah, the old 'he only scores penalties' myth. Check his stats on soccerbase.

I didn't say he only scored pens so don't twist my words to suit you, but tbf I just checked and he only scored 3 pens that season so he scored 16 league goals and 1 cup goal with 3 pens in the league.
Anyway I don't wish to argue about if Mcsheffery was good 5+ years ago, my point was he never played striker then. He is better as a support player getting forward to help a front 2 rather than spearheading the attack himself.
He was awful when played upfront against Leicester and is not the answer to our striking problems.

torchomatic · Sep 14, 2011

Alright, alright! Calm down. You said you were pretty sure a lot of his goals were penalties. I said that was a myth. Nothing more, not a twist in sight.

CCFC said:
I didn't say he only scored pens so don't twist my words to suit you, but tbf I just checked and he only scored 3 pens that season so he scored 16 league goals and 1 cup goal with 3 pens in the league.
Anyway I don't wish to argue about if Mcsheffery was good 5+ years ago, my point was he never played striker then. He is better as a support player getting forward to help a front 2 rather than spearheading the attack himself.
He was awful when played upfront against Leicester and is not the answer to our striking problems.

shmmeee · Sep 14, 2011

The real Sheffers myth is that he's a striker.

He plays best when he can drift onto made by the strikers. Too lightweight for a striker always has been.

sw88 · Sep 14, 2011

The old sheffers got us double figures in goals. The current sheffers will not!

Nick · Sep 14, 2011

I love it when people say "put him up front" the same as they did with Mifsud. The thing is they scored most of they goals from being on the wing so the argument for them being up front doesn't really stick.

If McSheffrey got his act together like the good couple of games he had at the end of last season and plays at the tip then he may do well, he doesn't work in this formation on the left as it means he needs to defend which he can't do. He has lost some of his pace and confidence from the first time round.

sw88 · Sep 14, 2011

I agree hes more suited to the tip of the diamond rather than on the left

stay_up_skyblues · Sep 14, 2011

Nick said:
I love it when people say "put him up front" the same as they did with Mifsud. The thing is they scored most of they goals from being on the wing so the argument for them being up front doesn't really stick.

If McSheffrey got his act together like the good couple of games he had at the end of last season and plays at the tip then he may do well, he doesn't work in this formation on the left as it means he needs to defend which he can't do. He has lost some of his pace and confidence from the first time round.

Im pretty certain mifsud stopped scoring when he was put out wide.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Sep 14, 2011

stay_up_skyblues said:
Im pretty certain mifsud stopped scoring when he was put out wide.

I wouldn't say he played as an out and out striker, under Dowie he was almost part of a front 3 rotating between Mifsud, Best, Adebola and Simpson.
The goals didn't really stop until Coleman came in and he was shoved as a wide midfielder and was given defensive duties.

sw88 · Sep 14, 2011

And we got rid of Dele!

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