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Nick

Administrator
  • Wednesday at 4:26 PM
  • #701
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

Another migrant living at Epping asylum hotel charged with sexual assault

The Bell Hotel has been at the centre of a series of anti-migrant protests
www.standard.co.uk

Another incident involving sexual offences.
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Busy couple of weeks for him.

Get the placards made up ready to defend him.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:28 PM
  • #702
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

Another migrant living at Epping asylum hotel charged with sexual assault

The Bell Hotel has been at the centre of a series of anti-migrant protests
www.standard.co.uk

Another incident involving sexual offences.
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Yeah but Tommy Robinson ... and dont forget Cameron fucks pigs ..
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:35 PM
  • #703
rob9872 said:
Yeah but Tommy Robinson ... and dont forget Cameron fucks pigs ..
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You’ll have the usual clowns calling you every name under the sun in a minute
 

Chicken Mcgraw

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:51 PM
  • #704
SBT said:
Don’t worry Dom - if you go to the games but don’t have anyone to talk to, then I think it’s totally fine if you just post on the off topic board instead!
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@Brighton Sky Blue you 2 / me and Dom double date at next game? I wanna see these chinos
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 5:53 PM
  • #705
rob9872 said:
Yeah but Tommy Robinson ... and dont forget Cameron fucks pigs ..
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Just pointing out where the frothing about immigrants can lead.

If the presence of rapists in the population was a reason to kick all of them out then most populations would be kicked out. But you know that, you’re not stupid. You want zero immigration so you’re scouting for horrible crimes so you can claim it’s all immigrants.

This is a trick as old as time, but let’s not pretend it’s reasoned debate. No one supports sexual assault. Everyone wants it prevented and where that’s not happened justice done.

The limited data we’ve got, which doesn’t rely on triggering feelings around kids being raped, suggests most immigrants commit crime at a lower rate to comparable natives in the UK.

You can make your arguments without resorting to using raped kids as a rhetorical device. Or at least I’d hope you can, though previous evidence on here is mixed.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Wednesday at 6:02 PM
  • #706
shmmeee said:
The limited data we’ve got, which doesn’t rely on triggering feelings around kids being raped, suggests most immigrants commit crime at a lower rate to comparable natives in the UK.
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That's not true though is it?



117 Somalians per 1000 in the UK are in prison. 60 Albanians per 1000. I'd say that's pretty high.

What is it for somebody from the UK? I'd bet around 1.2 - 1.3 per 1000 are in prison.

The numbers show the exact opposite. Moral of the story is to keep crime down, more people from India and less from Somalia, Albania, Iraq etc.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 6:04 PM
  • #707
Nick said:
That's not true though is it?
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Don’t even know why you engage with that utter bellend, he has to put people on block because he knows he chats complete and utter shite.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 6:37 PM
  • #708
Nick said:
That's not true though is it?

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117 Somalians per 1000 in the UK are in prison. 60 Albanians per 1000. I'd say that's pretty high.

What is it for somebody from the UK? I'd bet around 1.2 - 1.3 per 1000 are in prison.

The numbers show the exact opposite. Moral of the story is to keep crime down, more people from India and less from Somalia, Albania, Iraq etc.
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If someone comes over from Somalia or Albania or any other country you like, and then gets a British passport and then commits a crime....

Are you counting them in the immigrant figures or the British figures?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Wednesday at 7:11 PM
  • #709
PVA said:
If someone comes over from Somalia or Albania or any other country you like, and then gets a British passport and then commits a crime....

Are you counting them in the immigrant figures or the British figures?
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It is going off their recorded nationality.

If there are Albanians and Somalians in amongst the British figures then surely it would only make the stats higher? Add in Eritrea and Vietnam as well.

Not sure where the notion that migrants don't commit crime comes from when the prison statistics show the exact opposite.

Going off those numbers:

  • A Somali in the UK is 97.9 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • An Albanian in the UK is 50.5 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • An Iraqi in the UK is 21.1 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • An Iranian in the UK is 12.6 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • A Jamaican in the UK is 11.1 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • An Afghan in the UK is 10.0 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • An Eritrean in the UK is 3.9 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • A Nigerian in the UK is 1.7 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • A Lithuanian in the UK is 1.6 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • A Pakistani in the UK is 1.6 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • An Irish citizen in the UK is 1.5 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • A Romanian in the UK is 1.1 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • A Polish person in the UK is 1.0 times more likely to be in prison than a UK national.
  • A Portuguese person in the UK is 0.8 times as likely to be in prison as a UK national.
  • An Indian in the UK is 0.6 times as likely to be in prison as a UK national.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:19 PM
  • #710
Nick said:
It is going off their recorded nationality.

If there are Albanians and Somalians in amongst the British figures then surely it would only make the stats higher?

Add in Eritrea and Vietnam as well.
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There will be some people born in Albania and Somalia in amongst the British national figures sure, but there will be an awful lot more from other nationalities that have a very low imprisonment rate that will dilute it and show that foreign born people are less likely to be in prison than British born people.

How many people have you met from Eritrea compared with people from India?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Wednesday at 7:28 PM
  • #711
PVA said:
There will be some people born in Albania and Somalia in amongst the British national figures sure, but there will be an awful lot more from other nationalities that have a very low imprisonment rate that will dilute it and show that foreign born people are less likely to be in prison than British born people.

How many people have you met from Eritrea compared with people from India?
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Not sure I have to meet every single person, I am just going off official prison statistics.

What are you trying to dilute? Compare those prison stats with the stats of nationalities that entered the country illegally.

I think it is only India who have a lower chance of being in prison than British nationals.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:28 PM
  • #712
PVA said:
There will be some people born in Albania and Somalia in amongst the British national figures sure, but there will be an awful lot more from other nationalities that have a very low imprisonment rate that will dilute it and show that foreign born people are less likely to be in prison than British born people.

How many people have you met from Eritrea compared with people from India?
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Why are you focusing on Eritrea?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:29 PM
  • #713
Nick said:
Not sure I have to meet every single person, I am just going off official prison statistics.

What are you trying to dilute? Compare those prison stats with the stats of nationalities that entered the country illegally.

I think it is only India who have a lower chance of being in prison than British nationals.
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The deflection is frantic
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:30 PM
  • #714
Nick said:
Not sure I have to meet every single person, I am just going off official prison statistics.

What are you trying to dilute? Compare those prison stats with the stats of nationalities that entered the country illegally.

I think it is only India who have a lower chance of being in prison than British nationals.
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Well you've just moved the goalposts significantly if you're talking only about people that come over on small boats.

That's not what was being discussed.

It was immigrants against British born.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:31 PM
  • #715
Grendel said:
Why are you focusing on Eritrea?
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Erm, Nick brought Eritrea up you fucking clown.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:31 PM
  • #716
PVA said:
Erm, Nick brought Eritrea up you fucking clown.
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Also Albania Somalia and Vietnam.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Wednesday at 7:37 PM
  • #717
PVA said:
Well you've just moved the goalposts significantly if you're talking only about people that come over on small boats.

That's not what was being discussed.

It was immigrants against British born.
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No I haven't, I said compare the stats based on nationality with the nationalities of people entering the country illegally to see if nationalities entering the country are more likely to go to prison than British Nationals.

The prison stats don't say how they got to the country, just their nationality.

The point being, if you whack HMOs or Hotels full of nationalities with high crime / prison rates than there's a pretty good chance that crime is going to go up, isn't it?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:38 PM
  • #718
Grendel said:
Also Albania Somalia and Vietnam.
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Yes and there's fewer Eritreans in the UK than any of those so it illustrates my point.

God knows what point you're trying to make.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:40 PM
  • #719
Nick said:
No I haven't, I said compare the stats based on nationality with the nationalities of people entering the country illegally to see if nationalities entering the country are more likely to go to prison than British Nationals.

The prison stats don't say how they got to the country, just their nationality.
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Shmmeee said immigrants commit less crime than British natives.

You said that's not true.

It is.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:42 PM
  • #720
PVA said:
Shmmeee said immigrants commit less crime than British natives.

You said that's not true.

It is.
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I mean believing anything ‘shmmeee’ says is embarrassing
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:43 PM
  • #721
PVA said:
Shmmeee said immigrants commit less crime than British natives.

You said that's not true.

It is.
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He always actually uses percentages as measurements though? As that’s more reflective? Incredible how defensive if him you are.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:44 PM
  • #722
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I mean believing anything ‘shmmeee’ says is embarrassing
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The way he sucks up to everything the Bedworth Bore says is embarrassing
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:44 PM
  • #723
Grendel said:
He always actually uses percentages as measurements though? As that’s more reflective? Incredible how defensive if him you are.
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They are a pair of clowns
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Wednesday at 7:45 PM
  • #724
PVA said:
Shmmeee said immigrants commit less crime than British natives.

You said that's not true.

It is.
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Good try but:

The limited data we’ve got, which doesn’t rely on triggering feelings around kids being raped, suggests most immigrants commit crime at a lower rate to comparable natives in the UK.
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The statistics show prison population per 1000 people of different nationalities.

I'd say that Somalians and Albanians are committing crime at a much higher rate than the UK natives considering the % of them in the UK that are in prison.

So yeah, if you have a house full of unvetted Somalian or Afghan migrants next door then statistically they are more likely to go to prison. If you have a hotel full next door, good luck.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:45 PM
  • #725
Grendel said:
The way he sucks up to everything the Bedworth Bore says is embarrassing
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Like I said they think they know it all when it comes to this forum, in the real world they get laughed at

 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:48 PM
  • #726
Nick said:
Good try but:



The statistics show prison population per 1000 people of different nationalities.

I'd say that Somalians and Albanians are committing crime at a much higher rate than the UK natives considering the % of them in the UK that are in prison.

So yeah, if you have a house full of unvetted Somalian or Afghan migrants next door then statistically they are more likely to go to prison. If you have a hotel full next door, good luck.
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They are wonderful people in this mysterious hotel he refuses to name.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:50 PM
  • #727
Nick said:
Good try but:



The statistics show prison population per 1000 people of different nationalities.

I'd say that Somalians and Albanians are committing crime at a much higher rate than the UK natives considering the % of them in the UK that are in prison.

So yeah, if you have a house full of unvetted Somalian or Afghan migrants next door then statistically they are more likely to go to prison. If you have a hotel full next door, good luck.
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Well yeah, but Somalians and Albanians aren't 'most immigrants'.

It's not a difficult concept.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Wednesday at 7:50 PM
  • #728
Grendel said:
They are wonderful people in this mysterious hotel he refuses to name.
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I mean Cov Hill Hotel says 319 people...

If there's a mixture of Somalians, Afghans, Iraqis and Iranians then the stats there,
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:51 PM
  • #729
PVA said:
Well yeah, but Somalians and Albanians aren't 'most immigrants'.

It's not a difficult concept.
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As a percentage of population are they more likely to commit crimes than a uk born person?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Wednesday at 7:52 PM
  • #730
PVA said:
Well yeah, but Somalians and Albanians aren't 'most immigrants'.

It's not a difficult concept.
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We are talking about illegal immigrants living unvetted in HMOs and Hotels.

It's no surprise that you are trying to cram in doctors and nurses to the mix. Predictable.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:54 PM
  • #731
Nick said:
We are talking about illegal immigrants living unvetted in HMOs and Hotels.

It's no surprise that you are trying to cram in doctors and nurses to the mix. Predictable.
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As if Tarquin has really lived near such places
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:55 PM
  • #732
Nick said:
We are talking about illegal immigrants living unvetted in HMOs and Hotels.

It's no surprise that you are trying to cram in doctors and nurses to the mix. Predictable.
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What the fuck

You said its 'not true' that 'immigrants commit less crime than British natives'.

Sorry to break it to you but that includes the doctors and nurses.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:56 PM
  • #733
PVA said:
What the fuck

You said its 'not true' that 'immigrants commit less crime than British natives'.

Sorry to break it to you but that includes the doctors and nurses.
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Do Albanians and Somskians commit more crimes as a percentage - yes or no?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 7:57 PM
  • #734
Grendel said:
Do Albanians and Somskians commit more crimes as a percentage - yes or no?
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Yes, obviously.

But again, Albanians and Somalians aren't all immigrants.

Fucking hell you two are really struggling with basic English this evening. Ironically more so than most immigrants would.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Wednesday at 7:58 PM
  • #735
PVA said:
What the fuck

You said its 'not true' that 'immigrants commit less crime than British natives'.

Sorry to break it to you but that includes the doctors and nurses.
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You still don't seem to grasp quotes and context of conversations do you?
 
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