shmmeee
Well-Known Member
“The fact I believed it says a lot about the situation” is a classic
It's the prevailing attitude now. Make things up that you know your supporters will believe and then go 'oh FINE then' when proven wrong.
Does the fact I think he's a c*** say a lot about the situation too?“The fact I believed it says a lot about the situation” is a classic
I don't think it's impossible for us to live in harmony with nature, or that we should have zero impact. I just think the way things are and seem to be going are not going to achieve that and make it a lot worse.Only if you believe it’s impossible for humans to live in harmony with the rest of nature or that they should have zero impact.
I don’t believe that. I think we’re at a technological inflection point an able to live in high density that it’s not needed. I also don’t think self hatred of the human race is cool cos I’m not 14.
Not the sharpest tool though is he. The silent MAJORITY mmmmmm lol
I don't think it's impossible for us to live in harmony with nature, or that we should have zero impact. I just think the way things are and seem to be going are not going to achieve that and make it a lot worse.
We are technologically able to live in higher density. The point is are we as a species suited to that? We've been living in higher and higher density since the industrial revolution and that comes with problems. Tower blocks to replace slums had massive impact. No community aspect, distrust and hatred between neighbours because people are literally on top of each other. Massive mental health problems and alcohol/drug abuse to mask it, or people just resorting to violence as a release. I'm considering the human impact of such things and on the whole they aren't good.
Nice to see Jerry Sadowitz back on the scene.going by the videos today. it’s very much the silent majority
the echo chamber that this forum is doesn’t translate to the real world. people have had enough and it’s showing
Gimoc proud of them ffsNice to see Jerry Sadowitz back on the scene.
Rupert lowe and Farage must be pissing themselves as the working classes fight amongst themselvesgoing by the videos today. it’s very much the silent majority
the echo chamber that this forum is doesn’t translate to the real world. people have had enough and it’s showing
Nah, some of them on both sides have never worked a day. On the left you have got the great unwashed who are at every protest from vegan pussy marches to racist, anti white and Palestine and on the right you have the dole bludgers with six kids and a crime sheet. The word your looking for is cunts.Rupert lowe and Farage must be pissing themselves as the working classes fight amongst themselves
it’s very much the silent majority
Who do you think comes across worst from that video?going by the videos today. it’s very much the silent majority
Lad in a Cov top on 1:21…Skyblue Army!going by the videos today. it’s very much the silent majority
the echo chamber that this forum is doesn’t translate to the real world. people have had enough and it’s showing
going by the videos today. it’s very much the silent majority
the echo chamber that this forum is doesn’t translate to the real world. people have had enough and it’s showing
Not saying I agree with them but how do you know? We're discussing a noisy minority against another noisy minority. My guess tbh is that the majority (who are silent) don't give a fek either way, but as they're silent it's pure conjecture.Just looking seems the Nuneaton “protest” was the biggest at around 300. Others were about 50 or so people. Not quite the silent majority is it? For a start they never shut the fuck up.
Not saying I agree with them but how do you know? We're discussing a noisy minority against another noisy minority. My guess tbh is that the majority (who are silent) don't give a fek either way, but as they're silent it's pure conjecture.
How do I know the numbers? There’s groups that are tracking this.
Protests don’t mean much they’re a social event mostly for networking sake as the Gaza ones. But you’ve seen in this thread no. Two anti immigration people can agree on what they want. Some want legal only. Some want none. Some want no asylum seekers. Some want better vetting. Some want lower immigration at all costs some only if their tax doesn’t go up. It’s Brexit all over again: do a majority want it? Probably. Can you find a solution a majority want? Not on your life.
What groups? Who? Just like political opinion polls and Brexit and anything else im told by polls etc I don't know a single person in my family or friends network who has been asked. That's quite a wide group to have never been questioned.How do I know the numbers? There’s groups that are tracking this.
Protests don’t mean much they’re a social event mostly for networking sake as the Gaza ones. But you’ve seen in this thread no. Two anti immigration people can agree on what they want. Some want legal only. Some want none. Some want no asylum seekers. Some want better vetting. Some want lower immigration at all costs some only if their tax doesn’t go up. It’s Brexit all over again: do a majority want it? Probably. Can you find a solution a majority want? Not on your life.
Sites like YouGov it's just whoever's made an account and then ticked various boxes so they say they have a representative sample. I get phone calls from Ipsos Mori every now and then also, though I don't remember ever giving them my number in the first place.What groups? Who? Just like political opinion polls and Brexit and anything else im told by polls etc I don't know a single person in my family or friends network who has been asked. That's quite a wide group to have never been questioned.
But surely those who make an account is already a group with a bias? I'm not saying its one way or the other but definitely will be a bias just by their interest when I maintain most folk couldn't give a flying. They are the true silent majority.Sites like YouGov it's just whoever's made an account and then ticked various boxes so they say they have a representative sample. I get phone calls from Ipsos Mori every now and then also, though I don't remember ever giving them my number in the first place.
The way the questions are asked will always have an impact too
The alternative would be going around the country asking people out and about, which may also happen, don't know.But surely those who make an account is already a group with a bias? I'm not saying its one way or the other but definitely will be a bias just by their interest when I maintain most folk couldn't give a flying. They are the true silent majority.
It would be better representative but even then would need to be multiple ares times days demographics its why I never really believe them. I mean you said they phone you time to time but you'll never vote Tory even if they were the only candidate. That's fine, I'm sure there are others they engage with who are polar opposite so it evens out, but it's still not a barometer of the general public especially with voting in swing areas.The alternative would be going around the country asking people out and about, which may also happen, don't know.
If the Tories suddenly started offering policy positions I agree with more than the Labour Party, I would. I'm very dissatisfied with Labour at the moment and vote Green locally anyway.It would be better representative but even then would need to be multiple ares times days demographics its why I never really believe them. I mean you said they phone you time to time but you'll never vote Tory even if they were the only candidate. That's fine, I'm sure there are others they engage with who are polar opposite so it evens out, but it's still not a barometer of the general public especially with voting in swing areas.
Who do you think comes across worst from that video?
Personally I see the pretty clear attempts to instigate violence as particularly tragic. Especially when it appears to be aimed at 60-somethings.It’s pretty tragic all round really
The poor kid gets worse stage fright than Kate BushDon’t be shy @SkyBlueDom26 un delete that post
Personally I see the pretty clear attempts to instigate violence as particularly tragic. Especially when it appears to be aimed at 60-somethings.
I don’t expect anyone thinks the protest will have revolutionary consequences but only one of the groups involved here is taking part in anti-social behaviour and it’s not the protesters, is it?I don’t see what a few middle class teacher types going in a town when tensions are running high hope to achieve other than get the locals staggering out of spoons and dishing verbals out.
I don’t expect anyone thinks the protest will have revolutionary consequences but only one of the groups involved here is taking part in anti-social behaviour and it’s not the protesters, is it?
See my post above your one…Which one are you?
I think you’re mistaking me for one of the old boys in the video - I wasn’t actually thereWhat was the objective of the protest?
I think you’re mistaking me for one of the old boys in the video - I wasn’t actually there
Well yeah, I can read what’s written on their signs - can you not?Well you must surely have an opinion on what motivated them to turn out if you were there or not?
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