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Gary McAllister - he's even more hyped retrospectively.

Yes, Rooney's dreadful return of 262 goals in 597 appearances really demonstrate that lack of hunger. I agree on Jennings, he was crap.

What's wrong with that? Are people in Britain that stupid? (don't answer)

On a similar vain, you can't beat these 2 either: FSoL - Papa New Guinea Orbital - Chime

Harries has been written off as a liability on the basis of a friendly against Rugby. Whereas anybody who saw him in a league game at Oldham would tell you the opposite.

Big exaggeration there. He was poor in a minority of games, but generally did OK considering he played in every position across the back 4.

Is the language common practice? I look at planning apps and council requests for information. The language and tone is never as fluffy as the language on the email from the planning officer to the Wasps developers. It doesn't prove anything and doesn't suggest any real wrongdoing. It just shows...

He has an experience right back in Ricketts. Arguably another in Willis even if it isn't his best position.

Another former player, another obsession. If he came back, great. Then again, I think he was poor from January onwards (as the team was). I would rather we gave our own (G Thomas) a good run.

Do you just ignore osb58's analyses of the club's accounts?

In this case, the council seems to be acting for both sides. It's the language as much as anything, it's written as if the council are in alliance with Wasps, not just acting as the local planning authority.

Yes. It's our misguided perception of our place in the world. This obsession with being a major power. Who gives a fuck? It doesn't benefit me or you in any way. It's an ego trip for politicians. The Germans have done OK without it.

It might actually suit some young players for sites to be on more than one site. The AHC has dreadful access, I don't even think there is a bus that goes down Allard Way (the 13 used to go down Langbank Ave years ago iirc). Without some form of investment from CCFC, it's going to mean compromise.

Boo hoo

Hurrah, another thread mentioning a former player. Why is everybody so obsessed with bringing ex players back?

I've not seen the first one

Blimey, imagine we had that level of info to debate on here.

Yes, Maddison was awful but he was hardly a loan in the conventional sense.

It's basically an alco-pop. Horrid stuff.

75% of our signings so far have been permanent deals. You're moaning for nothing again. Or do you think we should give up using the loan system at all? After all it didn't help at all last season.