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Most? Oh you mean TF. We all know he only tells the truth to suit an argument. On this occasion it's to suit your argument ;)

You're the delusional one. I've never said that I think that Rochdale, Walsall or Bury have better budgets or anything remotely close to indicate I think that.

Also what if there's another 2 or 3 teams all on the same budget as us? Top 6-8 could actually mean top 9-11 and upper quartile could mean 13th or 14th ;) I'm on the wind up here for the large part but it is entirely possible and if the other teams have the benefit of stability they're always...

Well at the moment we have 4 more wins, 5 less defeats, we've scored more than we've conceded and we're going to finish the season at least 8 points better of. No relegation battle hoping other results go our way on the last day of the season instead we were still in with a shout of a playoff...

I don't think he ever did make the point either.

Unlike those moaning about the manager you mean blissfully unaware of how far we've come this season.

Let the manager of what? Turning us from relegation fodder to promotion hopefuls? Damn you Mowbray for coming to our club giving us hope. That's not the done thing.

I recognise it's two different things Dave. It's grendull who's struggling. Or is he? It depends on which thread he's saying it on as he's trying to win the same argument on two different thread's by saying the exact opposite on each thread on the same point while claiming both opposites as fact.

I suggest you read post #53 on the Mowbray thread where you stated (and I quote)"The budget that is shown is that ALLOCATED to players salaries". If you've said something different on this thread the only thing you proved is that you change your story to suit your argument. Not news to most I'm...

Because you claimed it to be the wage budget when it is in fact an SCMP calculation from the FL. Nothing more, nothing less.

According to me nothing. I told you on the Mowbray thread that it was supposition and that I wasn't making any statement unlike yourself. OSB proves your statement to be wrong as much if not more than my self confessed from the start theory. Why you're feeling so clever is beyond me. I think...

Quite please. Adults talking.

Thank's OSB. I had wondered that myself with the Madison sale. Might also explain the required attandence jumping from 11,500 to 14,500 best part through the season.

He rents a house locally. Although he hasn't relocated his family I believe.

So basically OSB the actual playing budget could be above or below what's stated in the FL redacted document and also the reality is that the actual playing budget is not the same as the players wage budget so not only could our actual playing budget be lower than that stated in the FL document...

Flip flop, flip flop. That's right. I am supposing, I'm not trying to make out otherwise. You on the other hand have stated that it is the players wages in the report. Not suggested, stated. What are you basing that statement on is all I'm asking. Pretty clear from your flip flipping you're...

That's a no then. No you're not trying to underlay it, you're trying to overplay it. I would imagine that the actual playing wage bill change's all season as players come and go. It would make more sense that a redacted report that comes out at the beginning of the season is a report on...

You've seen it then?

That's a very good point. How many other managers had to do thing's like routine maintenance of the training ground, set up a scouting network from scratch, sort out the team bus, reorganise the backroom staff etc. out of their budget this season while also rebuilding a team pretty much from...

It's not that some posters are critical of the franchise, it's that a lot of those same posters are never critical of our owners. You can see the difference I'm sure? Actually you're well and truly in the critical on the franchise silent on our owners camp so conveniently you probably can't /won't.