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This is also an excellent article which everyone should read It does also show that the US and the West thought sanctions would bring Russia to its knees (a real nonsense argument even if it worked - which it never would - as it ignores the impact of fairly recent history on destitution to the...

You made a comment that doubted there was any US commentators who believed the notion Russia were provoked into the war I have then showed numerous items linking them. One is dismissed as a crank and the rest of it is ignored You never have any answers to anyone who askes serious questions so...

Oh dear

Oh so you accept there is significant evidence from experienced figures that this war has been designed by the US - or at least its an established theory from some respected people?

Oh - look whose on the baddies side https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/u-s-approves-massive-arms-sale-to-saudi-arabia-united-arab-emirates-to-counter-iran

I think we have established he is incapable of an actual discussion

Ah of course - the challenges come and the attempt to debate the US foreign policy and its direct contribution to this war is over and now its "you seem to be malfunctioning" Next it will be a bang on the head or a silly GIF no doubt McCarthy would have been your hero

Oddly he looks at both sides of the debate - look at this Biden’s CIA director, William J. Burns, has been warning about the provocative effect of NATO expansion on Russia since 1995. That’s when Burns, then a political officer in the U.S. Embassy in Moscow, reported to Washington that...

Is Merscheimer a convicted paedophile? How about Ted Carpenter? Anatol Lieven? Robert Wade Or are these just Reds under the bed?

Tony will be in a tailspin He needs to get his Wiki out again to check or I am sure he has a great great cousin who visited there once

Shocking or is a big whopper? Lets boycott the chain https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66739104

Now Dubya - he's no crank is he https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/apr/01/nato.georgia

Well you would as he does not support your strident worshipping of US foreign policy - its of course what the US do. Given Wolfowitz and Bush openly persued the act of provocation I assume they were cranks as well. I am sure Victoria Nuland is a crank. I am sure you would have dribbled over...

Another crank I am sure https://www.ussc.edu.au/the-spectre-of-wolfowitz

No I have never said that it is their right to defend themselves but without the West wasting money - or at least just let the US waste their own resources and not ours

Well no as I wondered if you could work it out Ah he is a Russian apologist is he? Is that because the US government label him that........well I never

Tony why would I need a lesson from someone who literally quotes wiki all day long? Yanukowitz was he elected democratically Tony? I suggest you read up on it. I think he was. You mentioned Brexit Tony when a war encouraged by US foreign policy really has nothing to do with it

Here’s your man Tony https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine Oh you agree with this guy https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/20/boris-johnson-and-liz-truss-urge-rishi-sunak-to-send-fighter-jets-to-ukraine Looks like the inner...

Who has said they aren’t allowed their sovereignty- the irony is most of the far right chums in the uk who voted for brexit agree with you Tony - didn’t you vote Corbyn last time?

This article was written in 2008 https://eprints.lse.ac.uk/83147/1/US-Russian%20Relations_%20Some%20Historical%20Parallels%20_%20International%20Affairs%20at%20LSE.pdf It shows the foreign policy at the time was steering into an inevitable conflict. The first quote in my post above goes onto...