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The scenario you give is universally classed as an assist everywhere in football except your house by the sound of it. And I've can't think of one post that's tried to defend O'Hares limitations in the final third, everyone acknowledges it.

Same happened to me. Be grateful for the times you shared, priceless, and suggest one game every now and then where you make a family day of it.

'A 5 yard pass in their half doesnt constitute creating a chance' I've read some nonsense on this forum but fuck me.

That was just a couple of examples. But just to clarify, does a pass that creates a chance have to be over a certain distance now?

P'boro doing us a favour, back from 1-0 down to lead 2-1 against Millwall. They've had 72% possession!

So do I. But Godden is a great option off the bench and reliable when called on.

Thought he was poor today and has been all season. Put us in trouble a few times and for a captain to push a player and pick up a yellow when the ref has just waved play on because we're on the attack was pure stupidity. Think there are more urgent requirements in January but would think this...

Since Viks goals have dried up we've been very reliant on Goddens. I agree his overall contribution isnt as good.

It is a different argument but it's also true, about the scoring definitely

I dont think it is. Star city is across the road.

When he says a decent level I think he means the elevated power league in Brum you can see from the M6.

Good news. His cameos have been getting better and better and will give O'Hare a bit of competition for his place even though there different types of players.

Set up one of our best chances. Isn't that what people want?

Really? Set up the Allen chance. Won the free kick for Hyams first header. He contributes plenty his finishing is just woeful.

Will still be 7th at the end of play today but really need ro start winning again starting next week.

We really should of

I do feel the agony. But I also realise what we're up against.

Go on!!

Who said you cant be frustrated? But you have temper it with a bit of realism, not just regarding today but our recent poor run.

No it doesn't excuse it. But my point still stands.