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  1. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    No the EU are being held back by a lower than expected yield in the bioreactor of an AZ plant in Belgium. Whatever your opinions on their actions let's try and keep this truthful and not get all faragey about this.
  2. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    The Janssen single dose sounds promising Belgian company though ;)
  3. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    The contract was under an NDA that AZ haven't waived
  4. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    1 thing we can agree on it is a badly worded contract that the lawyers who wrote it up need speaking to. So anyway the only best intentions clause seems to be on manufacturing the vaccine in the EU.
  5. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    No it's not It clearly states it
  6. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    The best effort is in a clause saying it will be produced in the EU which then goes on to say if this isn't possible they can supply from non EU sites.
  7. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Their contract does seem to state the can get UK produced vaccines if clause 5.4 is triggered which the can't produce them at EU sites. I can see why they are annoyed at AZ and sadly it's normal people who will have to pay.
  8. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    they are separate the UK facilities and EU facilities. It says the UK is only counted as partof teh EU as per section 5.4 which is latenrative manufacturing plants
  9. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    They have published it
  10. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Reading that contract as well it includes the UK factories in the EU supply chain?
  11. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    It does say best reasonable efforts to manufacture at EU sites and that the vaccine may be supplied from non EU sites. If that is correct the EU may have a point in the diversion of supplies from the UK. It's just AZ seem to have entered into a contract with the UK that doesn't allow that...
  12. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Also the redacted bits appear to be cost related not supply.
  13. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    it's redacted as AZ haven't waived their part of the ND clause
  14. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    It does if the contract guarantees the order. What the EU are saying is as soon as the Vaccine worked and was viable the contract became guaranteed. Basically the EU state that the contract is only best endeavours whilst it was in development. AZ can release the contract, the EU has said it's...
  15. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    They need to release the terms of teh contract from teh non disclosure agreement "Von der Leyen told Deutschlandfunk radio the best-effort delivery cause in the contract was only valid as long as it was not clear whether AstraZeneca could develop a vaccine. She said the contract contained very...
  16. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    at work, typoed countries
  17. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/28/belgium-launches-investigation-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-plant Looks like the EU has decided to let any individual company block vaccine exports one there own. Ball is very much in Belgiums court now
  18. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Haven't Sanofi given up and signed a deal to product the Pfizer vaccine?
  19. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55839885
  20. David O'Day

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Because it will be approved soon
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