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So was the effects on the academy. The effects on the academy aren't a consideration. Anything contravening planning regs and specifically the conditions that the original development had to meet regarding green belt are, yet he only talked about the irrelevant bit of the letter. Balls to turn...

You don't think TF also went there so a box could be ticked elsewhere? I think there's more than one party box ticking here.

Of course it would have been relevant and on many levels. Even if we're heading for JR3 it would be relevant to the case. They could say that we stood up in the meeting and pointed out where it contravenes the original planning approval and was ignored. All they've got now is that we stood up in...

That's the problem. The parties that need to sit in a room and talk won't instead choosing media as a forum for talks. The trust suggest that all parties need to get in the same room and talk and it's the trust who get abused for daring to suggest such a drastic course of ACTION get called wasp...

He could have outlined it and unlike what he did say would have had some relevance to the planning application.

That's no excuse. They've took independent advice and written a second letter based on it with some valid points regarding the approval of the original development and how the application potentially contravenes this. Why didn't he concentrate on those specific's? It not like we're not aware of...

What a load of bollocks.

From what I've read he's not said dot about planning regs and concentrated on playing the victim. He might as well stamped it approved himself.

Personally I don't care if they continue with the legals after they sold the club and I don't think there's anything to suggest that they'd have to stop, legally or otherwise. I think the fact that they won't sell the club is a reflection of the strength of their legal argument i.e. not strong...

Like I said, not strictly true. Just disputing the time scale. He didn't suggest staying at the Ricoh from the start is an option. That came later, we had to get through BPA story first.

If they're using the same architects that TF employed at least three years ;)

That isn't strictly true Dave. Pretty much the first words out of CA's mouth when he was arrived was that we have identified a site in the city promptly followed up with LR's exclusive on the BPA. He also hasn't stated that we wish to stay at the Ricoh long term either at any point. He has said...

So if Wasp hadn't got around the table regarding the Ricoh in the first place we'd be in a different position to what we are now? No of course we wouldn't, we'd be in exactly the same place. Refusing to talk only has the one outcome, regardless.

No one has but some like to spin it that way. For example I suggested a couple of seasons ago that the club should approach our landlords about a kiosk at the ground for a club shop and promptly got accused of saying all we have to do is ask and Wasps and they will provide. Which of course...

The media would have picked up on what? If he had have refused to answer it what would there have been to report? If he had have simply replied that he won't be drawn on that at this moment in time as there's currently more pressing issues, that would have been the correct reply as it refocuses...

Because any successful well run business will always cover the angles.

There's no difference. A refusal to talk is just that, a refusal to talk. It doesn't matter at what stage negotiations were at the nett result is always the same. No progress and no agreement. Like I said, pick a set of principles and stick to them.

If he hadn't have given that answer would the media have even picked up on it and reported it in the first place. It was either deliberately answered in the way it was for effect or it was incompetence. Either way it's switching focus from where it should be at this moment in time. That's why he...

Funny how Wasps won't talk to us is a valid excuse for us to leave the Ricoh yet CA not talking to Wasps over the AEHC is acceptable. Surely the major problem over the last few years is parties finding any little excuse not to talk. The lions share of which has been done by our owners. I...