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Sorry.

A lot of them also settle permanently and make a good living for themselves. Encouraging them to support the local football team is a great way of integrating them into the wider community.

I still say you look like Ian Browns lovechild, your latest avatar only confirming that. Is Manc an ethnic minority? ;)

Surely this increases the pool?

NOCM! Boooo!

Burnley and Watford are well run clubs, we aren't. They also have a population of 70k for Burnley and 120k for Watford. There stadiums are more suitable to their demographic. Readings population is 155k, Bournemouths is 183k. I would also be willing to bet that Bournemouth would love a 32K...

If you look at population you make a good point. Swansea population is 242k, Stadium capacity is currently 22k with proposals in place to expand to over 30k then over 40k. Coventry population is 316k, Grendulls proposed capacity is 20k on a site where the limit is going to be something like...

IIRC Swansea are looking to expand in two stages. Stage one is about 32k stage 2 is 40 odd k. Is a 20k stadium at the BPA going to allow this sort of expansion once we've "established" ourselves? Wouldn't we also have to go though fan ownership first under the Swansea model?

And right on cue the personal insults start. You can't argue any of the points we've made can you?

Same here.

Silly me. I forgot that's how these things work.

With respect Arsenal are in the premier league we aren't. If everything was hunky dory at Swansea with a 22k stadium why are they looking to increase capacity considerably? Is it because the smaller capacity stadium model works for a successful team?

I suggest you try reading my post again because that is nothing like what I said.

We're in league one. Ticket revenue is king. Why restrict your biggest revenue earner? Are we going to pay for running costs and service the development debt because we have more of the profit from the pie sales?

At this level ticket revenue is king and as we keep being reminded what sets the budget. Apparently 12.5k was breakeven last season then it wasn't. That's in a stadium that costs us in real terms very little, we have none of the day to day running costs and we have no debt associated to the...

Hardly. It's based on if you have a 20k stadium you'll find a natural place for a 20k stadium. It's wether you determine that natural place a success or not. My guess it's more likely to equal mediocre league one with an odd good cup run. That's going to turn people of not on.

You prepare yourself business model based on success. We've seen last season that 20k is barely big enough for CCFC in league one with a hint of success. We've seen the same even in cup games.

So the argument you dismiss from posters regarding capacity for CCFC you're now using to try and justify dumping an wholly inadequately large stadium on CRFC guilt free. What's Man Uniteds average gate? Clearly the Ricoh is too small for us. That's the sort of comparison you've just used. We'll...

So we spank millions on the BPA making a stadium inadequate for an ambitious CCFC and overkill for CFRC in the hope that this somehow distresses Wasps and ACL presumably to the point it implodes and we can then pick up the Ricoh on the cheap, abandon the BPA leaving CRFC to try and cope with a...

The majority would though. Even then mid 20k is more than possible. With away allocation and segregation anything less than 25k is a stupid idea.