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  1. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    I never said he's got the timings right. Would be funny in a way though if it did happen.
  2. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Mmm. So if Italia was right on this I wonder if he's right about the JLR arena?
  3. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Tend to agree with that. Cant see a sale happening before the season kicks off and I think you're probably in the right ballpark for what Arvo are going to want and therein lies the problem. If you look at other clubs that have sold recently who are higher up the pyramid, have more valuable...
  4. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    No. They lost that on purpose. Or so an "expert" on here claims anyway.
  5. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Is it worth what SISU would take? That's what we need. SISU to name their price.
  6. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Was that what the offer was then?
  7. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Really? How much debt did they settle in real terms then? How much was written off? How much was converted into shares? How much was the squad actually worth? In todays money how would that compare to the value of the current squad? What did SISU buy in terms of what league we were in? What our...
  8. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Oh dear. Of course he's spoken to them. That's not the point I've made as I'm sure you're well aware. The point I've made is that some are making it into a what will wasps get out of it. Surely the first question is what will the club get out of it. Some aren't asking that question in favor of...
  9. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Presumably then using that logic our entire squad when SISU bought us was worth a quid? Didn't Dowie win a manager of the month award with that squad? Not bad seeing as it was only worth a quid.
  10. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    They are but like all puzzles there's an order to do it. Wasps aren't important at this stage and won't be until an offer for the club has been accepted. Then they become very important given that we have no right to play at the Ricoh after next season. But lets get the horse ready before we...
  11. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Depends which poster you're talking about. Don't think I used the word ALL either.
  12. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Funny how some want to make this all about wasps when it should be about CCFC.
  13. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    You're allowed an opinion. I'm not Grendull. I won't hold it against you claiming you said it was fact. I'll happily give you my opinion. In my opinion the club is worth a quid. The SISU debt which I believe is around £28M is worthless. Tough luck SISU, it's your mess, you take the hit. The...
  14. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    So what do you think SISU should be paid for the debt that was largely created through their mismanagement of CCFC? You obviously feel it's worth something otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up in the first place. Do you feel they deserve more or less than they paid for the investment...
  15. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    You said it in reply to a post that said "for something worth £0". The debt is worthless. Anyone who takes it on and pays SISU for it is doing SISU a favour they don't necessarily need to be doing. Like I said. How much debt did SISU settle in real terms when they bought the club for a...
  16. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    I knew you wouldn't answer that one. Your ducks are lined up in a different direction. Called it.
  17. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    What's the debt worth? How much of the original debt did SISU pay of when brought the club for a pound? How much of the current debt has been self inflicted by poor decisions? How much of the current debt is real debt? How much interest has been accrued and what is the justification for this...
  18. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    What am I actually doing? Or should I say what do you actually think I'm doing? From my point of view all I think I'm doing is pointing out that people are speculating on the details of something that is no more than speculation itself. It's not nearly the same as what happened with the KCIC...
  19. skybluetony176

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    I'm just trying to keep the duck mentioned count up with the number actually being lined up. I'm still lagging way behind. Give us a hand Moff and mention ducks a few times in your post's would you ;)
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