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You're right, it was total silence all around the ground before Doug came along ;)

I'm not online for friends, got them irl ;)

;)

Oh and NEV is skewed by tactical voting

For those of us back in the real world the tories have done worse than the over inflated loss totals their chairman put about as an attempt and spin management. Labour don't have to win 2014 on their own, the lib dems will be taking lots of seats from them as well.

If I want hard hitting but well reasoned political analysis I'm not going to go to FP and Grenners.

Lovely innit

Grenners has been on the cooking sherry Best to leave him alone :)

A bitter blairite cuckoo? his words no mine

The "but Labour didn't do well here" argument is meaningless in the current political landscape. Labour don't have to win everywhere, they may not win back places like Dudley and others but as the lib dems take seats in the "blue wall" it means Labour and Starmer don't have to be massively...

I'll leave you all to squabble and for Grenners to to straw clutch with this

Lol

The tories have now lost over 1000 seats The pollster FP posted admits Labour are still in a good position to win next year I wish people would actually look above the headline tweet

cool story

lol

that's awful take from an awful pundit

no sure why grenners is laughing at that it's currently worse than their own worst projections

sales in the cp and stone island kids ranges will go through the roof

Won't this just lead to more season ticket revenue as instead of moving to the JSB section more people will now pay the reduced but still more than the JSB section prices?